AMD FX OC'ers Club

YautjaLord · Feb 17, 2014

Need to know one thing: do i need the MS AMD FX hotfix for Win 7 for 8350 or not? The one that resolves the Win 7/Taskbar not reading properly the modules issue. Not in a hurry, can wait till March 10.

Thanx.

Johan45 · Feb 17, 2014

I never installed one and have had 0 issues. I think that may have been for the early bulldozers.

Athlonite · Feb 18, 2014

YautjaLord said:
Need to know one thing: do i need the MS AMD FX hotfix for Win 7 for 8350 or not? The one that resolves the Win 7/Taskbar not reading properly the modules issue. Not in a hurry, can wait till March 10. Thanx.

it's a good idea it's not just to resolve the task bar issue there's also one for core parking the two you want are

Patch: 1

http://hotfixv4.microsoft.com/Windo...2/Fix387870/7600/free/441065_intl_x64_zip.exe

Patch: 2

http://hotfixv4.microsoft.com/Windo...2/Fix391262/7600/free/441280_intl_x64_zip.exe

psyko12 · Feb 18, 2014

I had fun with my set up and got me to 4.5ghz for daily usage idle and load temps are still far from the roof but my pushpull hdt dark knight limits me along with the summer weather came in early. Got my hard earned moneys worth.

My original target was the asus saber r2, would it be a waste if I get it sometime in the future?

YautjaLord · Feb 18, 2014

Athlonite said:
it's a good idea it's not just to resolve the task bar issue there's also one for core parking the two you want are

Patch: 1

http://hotfixv4.microsoft.com/Windows 7/Windows Server2008 R2 SP1/sp2/Fix387870/7600/free/441065_intl_x64_zip.exe

Patch: 2

http://hotfixv4.microsoft.com/Windows 7/Windows Server2008 R2 SP1/sp2/Fix391262/7600/free/441280_intl_x64_zip.exe

So the Piledrivers (8350/8320/etc....) do need these patches too; not just Dozers. Thanx Athlonite. Already downloading.

Johan45 · Feb 18, 2014

Athlonite said:
it's a good idea it's not just to resolve the task bar issue there's also one for core parking the two you want are

Patch: 1

http://hotfixv4.microsoft.com/Windows 7/Windows Server2008 R2 SP1/sp2/Fix387870/7600/free/441065_intl_x64_zip.exe

Patch: 2

http://hotfixv4.microsoft.com/Windows 7/Windows Server2008 R2 SP1/sp2/Fix391262/7600/free/441280_intl_x64_zip.exe

I still feel they're unnecessary, you can just disable core parking and you actuall will get some benefit. The patch only works in certain circumstances and really doesn't have many benefits. My opinion anyway

Norton · Feb 18, 2014

My 8350's are always running full load on all cores so they never have a chance to park!

I will say that the FX-6200 and 8150 were a lot more sluggish doing lighter load work than the 8350's ever were..... night and day difference imho.

Athlonite · Feb 19, 2014

I've seen the difference between the FX6200 and an FX6300 it almost like night and day

Athlonite · Feb 19, 2014

well the 8320 arrived this arvo and is now in and running like a purring tiger
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Athlonite · Feb 19, 2014

Johan45 said:
They're a lot of fun you just have to be prepared for the heat they put out! You have a decent foundation with the CHV which is a plus.

yeah I don't think heat will be to much of a problem the ThermoLab Baram with push pull fan setup seems to cope quite well with heat probably also helps that the RV02 has an 180mm fan directed right at the HSF aswell

Super XP · Feb 21, 2014

Norton said:
My 8350's are always running full load on all cores so they never have a chance to park!

I will say that the FX-6200 and 8150 were a lot more sluggish doing lighter load work than the 8350's ever were..... night and day difference imho.

I got my cores on full also, none stop OC'ed. No heat issues and no other issues I am aware of. Gaming seems to run smooth.
If only AMD can further refine the FX 8350 such as a 8550 or something, because going from 8150 to 8350 was a nice bump in performance and stability.

Johan45 · Feb 21, 2014

Super XP said:
I got my cores on full also, none stop OC'ed. No heat issues and no other issues I am aware of. Gaming seems to run smooth.
If only AMD can further refine the FX 8350 such as a 8550 or something, because going from 8150 to 8350 was a nice bump in performance and stability.

Wow that's great voltage for 4.7 is that under load? Prime95 blend stable??

Durvelle27 · Feb 21, 2014

Im back stitches

Lol

Johan45 · Feb 21, 2014

Durvelle27 said:
Im back stitches

Lol

??? What do you mean stitches, did you have surgery?

Durvelle27 · Feb 21, 2014

Johan45 said:
??? What do you mean stitches, did you have surgery?

Lol nope

Johan45 · Feb 21, 2014

That's good! What ya been up to, rocking the 4770?

Durvelle27 · Feb 21, 2014

Yea been tourting it lol

Johan45 said:
That's good! What ya been up to, rocking the 4770?

Johan45 · Feb 21, 2014

Durvelle27 said:
Yea been tourting it lol

Ya me too, working away at some 3D benches with different cards lately trying to get the boints up

Durvelle27 · Feb 21, 2014

Havent submitted on Hwbot in awhile since im on Windows 8. Once i get another HDD ill start back benching for trhe team

Johan45 said:
Ya me too, working away at some 3D benches with different cards lately trying to get the boints up

Athlonite · Feb 25, 2014

So what is everyone thoughts on the two MS hotfix 's for FX CPU's still needed for the latest AMD FX CPU's in windows 7 or no not really

Johan45 · Feb 25, 2014

Athlonite said:
So what is everyone thoughts on the two MS hotfix 's for FX CPU's still needed for the latest AMD FX CPU's in windows 7 or no not really

I'll put it this way Athlon, I bench continually and if I though there was even a remote performance gain I would be using them and I don't. Not sure if that's the answer you're looking for but that's my take on it.

Athlonite · Feb 26, 2014

Cheers Johan I had already had them installed but was just wondering if they are now just a waste of space and time should I ever need to reinstall

Johan45 · Feb 26, 2014

From my understanding initially at release of Bulldozer in "some" circumstances the some cores would remain parked, I think it was in some games for the most part. Since windows 7 is fairly mature now and the FX have been around for a couple of years I don't believe this is an issue. Even at that it was only sporadic in the beginning and only under certain circumstances.

Athlonite · Feb 26, 2014

OK so that takes care of the Core Parking hotfix what about the Scheduling one shouldn't that be installed I don't remember MS putting out any other patch to solve this other than the Hotfix

Johan45 · Feb 26, 2014

If you already have them installed it's really irrelevant. They can add "some" performance boost but typically only with certain games and applications. Most notably for benchers is WPrime. I'm gong to have to do some comparisons myself to see if it actually makes a difference or not. If you're just running everyday computing they're probably not necessary at all. You have piqued my interest now Athlonite. And you're right AFIK and have read they haven't been included in the any of the updates. It won't take long for me to see if there's any benefit to be had. I have some spare time coming over the next couple of days so I'll get back to you on this.

Here's a pretty good read and some hands on testing at Tom's http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/windows-7-hotfix-bulldozer-performance,3119.html

It appears to make some differences mostly in games. But 1-2 FPS which is minimal.

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