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[Norton]

Yeah, that pretty much describes where I'm at too. I don't really feel like learning a new operating system, especially one that depends so much on the command line. Learning how to use android was pretty easy since it's pretty intuitive. Linux - not so much.

It's actually pretty easy... like @ThE_MaD_ShOt said:

This is my method with my linux installs using Ubuntu. Install, dl boinc and let it eat. I have used both nvidia and Amd gpu's and both work fine out of the box.

The cool thing is once you have a Linux install setup you can pull it from one machine and drop it in another w/o too many issues (usually none).

If you're really interested I can load up an install on a HDD, test it for a week or so to make sure it runs ok, and send it to you. I haven't even checked my i7-970 and 2600k linux rigs once in the last 6 months- they just keep running (knocks wood)

 

[twilyth]

I appreciate that, but doesn't all that do is save me the install step? If it's supposed to be easy to use, that shouldn't be an issue - or am I missing something?

 

[Nordic]

could be nice sicne smatphone power consumption is low, you buy all those powerful phone with cracked screen, low price and make a crunching table, xD

That is quite an idea. I wonder what the best phone for ppd/$/watt would be?

You could power them all with somethign like this too. http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00475WJEY/?tag=tec06d-20

Hmm. 400 ppd for a mid range phone?

 

[twilyth]

Here are my 2 android devices - for what it's worth.

The 4 core is my phone but I have the max temp set to 41C so it doesn't run all of the time. The 2 core is a small Galaxy tablet. I guess either the 2 cores it has either are a lot faster or run more consistently. I didn't change the default temp on the Galaxy. I think that's 39C but I'm not positive.

 

[[Ion]]

I'd bet you'd end up with an assortment of cats sleeping on them.

Not always. Some versions of Android will insist you disable WiFi before enabling the USB tether. I believe I was able to have both enabled when I was running CyanogenMod though.

Interesting....that would seem to get in the way of Wifi->USB tether. Now that you mention it, I'm pretty sure I have Cyanogen on my phone....pretty sure my Dad installed it back when it was his phone...

Hey fellers, I'm going to try to hang around more in these WCG threads and throw out my share of nonsense. Lately I've been extremely busy and tired from work that I've been actually going to bed early-ish, and thus I've been around a little less. This is the latest I've been up lately, but that's soon to change as I'm heading to bed.



I gave Mint a try and had a hard time with it, but it's because I had zero familiarity with Linux whatsoever. I had to Google and youtube just to figure out how to install it (alongside my windows partition), and then more of that along with asking people here to figure out how to do other stuff.

I switched back because I was expecting a bigger boost of ppd, and when I didn't see the huge jump, I figured I'd stay with Windows.

There's an icon on the desktop that you can double-click to install and then just follow the wizard. I would argue that the only challenging part (or possibly challenging part) is partitioning--butif you follow the default partitioning scheme it works pretty well unless you're trying to do something stupid (guity as charged!)

I've actually been quite impressed with the boost. Here's Breslau, a stock-clocked 3770k running Linux Mint:

and here's Vorpommern, a slighly (3.9GHz) overclocked 3770k running Windows 7 x64:

Kaunas, the Linux i5-2400, vs Minsk/Warsaw/Steiermark/Rotterdam/Tirol/Wuerttemberg/etc show the same story

and in four days time I will be out of top 100

Want some help staying there?

Yeah, that pretty much describes where I'm at too. I don't really feel like learning a new operating system, especially one that depends so much on the command line. Learning how to use android was pretty easy since it's pretty intuitive. Linux - not so much.

That said, I'd like to give it another try one day and see if I can get the hang of it.[/QUOTE]
See, I like the challenge of Linux. But IMO Mint and Ubuntu are basically as easy to use at this point as Android. While there are still some things that I find easier to do in the terminal than not--opening ports for BOINC remote, using osme debugging tools for programming--you don't even need to open up bash if you don't want to. Although IMO a competent shell is one of the great parts of Linux. I guess it doesn't hurt that we've been taught how to use it (even if only barely) in class here

 

[ThE_MaD_ShOt]

I appreciate that, but doesn't all that do is save me the install step? If it's supposed to be easy to use, that shouldn't be an issue - or am I missing something?

Not missing anything bud. Ubuntu works right out of the box. The only issues I have ever run into is with some wifi adapters. I now only use one certain wifi adapter with the linus rigs which can be had on ebay for around $10. Other then that all other hardware works without installing extra drivers and such. And I like the fact that I can just walk away from the rigs and bearly ever check them. I also turn the auto update checker off.

 

[twilyth]

My ppd have definitely been tanking since I moved over to doing mostly FAAH. I used to be able to hit 40k plus on many days but now, 36k is a good day - except for those days that one rig uploads a bunch of work. It's the only other machine I use the VPN on and it's constantly getting disconnected so it can be a day or more before I notice and reset the connection.

 

[[Ion]]

My ppd have definitely been tanking since I moved over to doing mostly FAAH. I used to be able to hit 40k plus on many days but now, 36k is a good day - except for those days that one rig uploads a bunch of work. It's the only other machine I use the VPN on and it's constantly getting disconnected so it can be a day or more before I notice and reset the connection.

I've noticed that the PPD seems to be even more decisively different between Windows and Linux with the FAAH-Vina WUs. The Xeon hexs are both down about 7-10% each (runnign 2008 R2 Enterprise), but I've also never seen 8.5k PPD out of a Sandy i7 before (Stuttgart, i7 2600k @ 4.5GHz running Mint 16) or 8k out of the FX8 (Riga, FX8350 @ 4.4GHz running Mint 15). So I guess it's a mixed bag.

 

[twilyth]

OK. Just fired up the SR2 with 2 5645's at 2.4 ghz. It looks like it dl'ed almost all FAAH wu's and one CEP2. So hopefully I'll be able to get the next 6-7 years of computer time I need for the 100 year badge. Considering that the project is at 99% and is due to end in June I'm hoping I can get what I need in time. Right now I have 118 threads so it should be about 3 days per year.

The chips seem to be running a little hot at about 65C but f*** it. I want my badge. AND I WANT IT NOW - waaaahhhh!!! I used some Noctua paste this time so hopefully that won't get fried too quickly.

BTW, does anyone know if there is a Sekerob chart that will tell me how close to the end we are on FAAH. I know I shouldn't be stressing about this but . . .

 

[thebluebumblebee]

I think it was during last year's Mother's Day Challenge that I had an i5-3450 and i7-2600K(@4.2) running on Linux and an i7-2600K(@4.4) running on W7 that I got into the lower 20K's and I was running exclusively FAAH. I was sure that Linux was much faster than Windows. Latter, I selected additional projects and found no discernible difference between Linux and Windows. But I'm not the best at tracking results, and WCG makes apples to apple comparisons impossible.
Conclusion: Run what you're comfortable with. Linux is great for "set and forget" because you don't have to worry about stealth Windows updates. (I did not use the command line for ANYTHING in Ubuntu and Mint, and for the longest time didn't even know how to access terminal)

Considering that the project is at 99% and is due to end in June

Sh....ish kebab. I only have 3 years on that. Deselected everything else to try to get my first Diamond badge. That sure jumped all of a sudden.

 

[ThE_MaD_ShOt]

Hell I am only at 26 years for Faah. Don't think a 100 year badge is in my future.

 

[[Ion]]

Hell I am only at 26 years for Faah. Don't think a 100 year badge is in my future.

Well, at least that's enough for your 20 year badge, and then there are still other projects

Slowly climbing my way up there--a bit over 84 years, which I don't suspect will ultimately be fast enough

 

[ThE_MaD_ShOt]

Well, at least that's enough for your 20 year badge, and then there are still other projects

Slowly climbing my way up there--a bit over 84 years, which I don't suspect will ultimately be fast enough

I have my 50 year badge coming for MCM in the next few days. OET will take forever as it seems they don't like sending me many wu's for it.

 

[[Ion]]

I have my 50 year badge coming for MCM in the next few days. OET will take forever as it seems they don't like sending me many wu's for it.

You know, it's much easier to pursue a particular badge if you set WCG to only send you that
Although obviously this means you only get progress on that one, I think it's more exciting to pursue one at a time so I can see the change.

Congrats on the impending 50 year in MCM!

 

[xvi]

That is quite an idea. I wonder what the best phone for ppd/$/watt would be?

You could power them all with somethign like this too. http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00475WJEY/?tag=tec06d-20

Hmm. 400 ppd for a mid range phone?

Now that it's finally starting to level off, I'm seeing about 500-650 PPD out of my $90 eBay Quad-core 1.8GHz ARMv7-powered media center device. It's lower than I expected, so I'll see if I can do some tweaking (I suspect throttling or power saving is messing with me). I'll be collecting power figures tonight too.

 

[twilyth]

That would be good info to have. You might be able to look at the log to see when/if it's pausing or throttling. You might have to reset the log level though. I checked client messages under the log (on my phone) and it seems to generate a message everytime it suspends computation and gives you a msg about why.

 

[[Ion]]

Well, the 2P Opty has also seemed to suffer a HDD failure. I woke up this morning to it unresponsive, and upon attempting to reboot it couldn't find grub. Trying to clone the HDD failed with a "disk has errors" message. I'm recreating a Linux Mint drive and I'll try reinstalling on a spae WD Raptor in a few

 

[4x4n]

Back up and running again

Replaced the Gene with a MSI Z97M, really a nice board and easy to set up. Now I'll have to see if Asus will treat me right.

 

[manofthem]

Well, the 2P Opty has also seemed to suffer a HDD failure. I woke up this morning to it unresponsive, and upon attempting to reboot it couldn't find grub. Trying to clone the HDD failed with a "disk has errors" message. I'm recreating a Linux Mint drive and I'll try reinstalling on a spae WD Raptor in a few

At least the HDD failures happened while you were there and not after you left for break

 

[thebluebumblebee]

Okay, I have something weird going on that affects only one of my systems. On that system, I bumped the buffer size higher and it downloaded accordingly. Checked on it latter and now it seems to be downloading WU's as one finishes.
Edit: Nothing in the buffer.

 

[Norton]

I'm running out of work on my rigs now also... no word from anyone at WCG but the forum is full of unanswered questions about this

Wondering if the unknown database updating issue that's affected the stats is related to this?

 

[Norton]

Sorry for the double post... just trying to move the discussion over to this thread...

No problems here... wonder what's going on?

@Heaven7 - check your event log and see what it says when you try to update the rig

** EDIT **

Checked my WCG account- received only a single wu in the last 10 hrs!!!

 

[Heaven7]

This is what the log says - how can I update the rig?

 

[Norton]

This is what the log says - how can I update the rig?

Click on Update on the Projects tab....

 

[thebluebumblebee]

This reminds me of the assignment server problems that F@H has. One of my systems is out of work, but 2 others are completely full.