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Actually , I've talked to Creative Labs guys and they provided me with this list of soundcards and driver delivery dates:
http://support.creative.com/kb/showarticle.aspx?sid=126331

Though as I can see it now, they have changed a lot of dates. Sound Blaster Z was scheduled for July 2015 and now it says August 2015. Hm... Titanium soundcards are now scheduled for October 2015. Technically it should still work as generic HD Audio device till then...
 

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Actually , I've talked to Creative Labs guys and they provided me with this list of soundcards and driver delivery dates:
http://support.creative.com/kb/showarticle.aspx?sid=126331

Though as I can see it now, they have changed a lot of dates. Sound Blaster Z was scheduled for July 2015 and now it says August 2015. Hm... Titanium soundcards are now scheduled for October 2015. Technically it should still work as generic HD Audio device till then...

Thanks for the information on the Z! I will be waiting till August at least then. I'm not worried, it will give me a chance to observe launch problems.
 
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I love Microsoft's server OS's, they are brilliant at doing what they are designed for. Also I much prefer supporting Windows PC's to Mac's. For most people Windows 10 will just be Windows 8.1 with a start menu.
I also prefer Windows PCs to MAC PCs but Microsoft is so irresponsible with Windows e.g. they do not update drivers and installation images until some service pack comes out or big update (Windows 8.1, Windows 8.1 Update 1).

That means that when you install Windows 7 SP1 you have to install over 200 updates which is bandwith consuming (for Microsoft and consumer) and time consuming, thank god for the people who integrate updates into .iso images.

I had a lot of problems with Windows 7 because I could not install it from USB drive because there is some bug and you hve to take out USB drive and then put it back in at some point to start installation, this happened to me on a few computers and that is because Microsoft doesn't want to update drivers on installation image.

There is also something that many people did not notice, how Microsoft tricked consumers and made new product (Windows 10) instead of issuing service pack to older one (Windows 8.1). Microsoft posts their support dates and Windows 8 did not recieve any service pack since its launch and now when Microsoft basically made service pack for Windows 8 which is called Windows 10 they will offer free upgrade (service pack) just for the first year and that means that after first year you will have to pay for service pack. This gets even worse with enterprise costumers who can't even upgrade to Windows 10.
And "Windows 8.1" update and "Windows 8.1 Update 1" update are not service packs, service pack is a service pack.
 

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I also prefer Windows PCs to MAC PCs but Microsoft is so irresponsible with Windows e.g. they do not update drivers and installation images until some service pack comes out or big update (Windows 8.1, Windows 8.1 Update 1).

That means that when you install Windows 7 SP1 you have to install over 200 updates which is bandwith consuming (for Microsoft and consumer) and time consuming, thank god for the people who integrate updates into .iso images.

I had a lot of problems with Windows 7 because I could not install it from USB drive because there is some bug and you hve to take out USB drive and then put it back in at some point to start installation, this happened to me on a few computers and that is because Microsoft doesn't want to update drivers on installation image.

There is also something that many people did not notice, how Microsoft tricked consumers and made new product (Windows 10) instead of issuing service pack to older one (Windows 8.1). Microsoft posts their support dates and Windows 8 did not recieve any service pack since its launch and now when Microsoft basically made service pack for Windows 8 which is called Windows 10 they will offer free upgrade (service pack) just for the first year and that means that after first year you will have to pay for service pack. This gets even worse with enterprise costumers who can't even upgrade to Windows 10.
And "Windows 8.1" update and "Windows 8.1 Update 1" update are not service packs, service pack is a service pack.


your complaints are actually addressed in windows 10, it has a 'factory reset' that cleans up the OS like a reinstall without deleting downloaded updates, and it allows local wifi/LAN sharing of updates between machines - so if one PC is up to date, it will transfer the updates to your other machine saving online bandwidth.


the upgrade is free and stays free, its just only on offer for a year. upgrade for free in that year, or pay later - it doesnt deactivate or anything.
 
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I think if you keep you're insider account activated ie logged into windows 10 with the insider account email, password while you are forced the beta updates on either the fast or slow track it will be free without having to pay.
 
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the upgrade is free and stays free, its just only on offer for a year. upgrade for free in that year, or pay later - it doesnt deactivate or anything.
After upgrade license is tied to a motherboard and that is not as flexible as it would be if Microsoft would release SP1 for Windows 8.1 instead of a Windows 10 and then license would not be tied to a motherboard.

your complaints are actually addressed in windows 10, it has a 'factory reset' that cleans up the OS like a reinstall without deleting downloaded updates,
There are also new installations and I strongly prefer to reinstall and not just reset Windows like you can reset a smartphone because it is more secure, like when I had Xperia I flashed the phone with an Android ROM.
 

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After upgrade license is tied to a motherboard and that is not as flexible as it would be if Microsoft would release SP1 for Windows 8.1 instead of a Windows 10 and then license would not be tied to a motherboard.

So there's been word on that? Is this true for retail licenses too? I've been wondering about how this will work.
 
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So there's been word on that? Is this true for retail licenses too? I've been wondering about how this will work.
I also need clear confirmation on this too. I'm planing to buy a retail WinX pro, but also plan to upgrade my mobo/CPU/RAM/GPU in ~1year, so not sure what the knuckleheads from MS are thinking about this...
 

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I simply don't think anyone knows how the upgrade keys will work until MS actually give them out.
 
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I found this but it is a contradiction:
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...l/50b6bef4-5fb7-4075-a14b-b5bb012e3d37?auth=1

From the site:
If you upgrade from a retail version, it carries the rights of a retail version.


Full version (Retail):

- Includes transfer rights to another computer.

- Doesn't require a previous qualifying version of Windows.

- Expensive


Upgrade version (Retail):

- Includes transfer rights to another computer.

- require a previous qualifying version of Windows.

- Expensive, but cheaper than full version
And here comes the contradiction:
What happens if I change my motherboard?

This will invalidate the Windows 10 upgrade license because it will no longer have a previous based qualifying license which is required for the free upgrade. You will then have to purchase a full retail Windows 10 license.
I think they will take into account second quote.
 

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@Uplink10 The second quote clearly refers to the OEM part of the post.

I wonder how MSDNAA licenses work though...
 
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