OFFICIAL Armored Warfare (Discussion)

[burebista]

strange i can't find the user bar on my profile ... no option to add them

For now it's only for guys who bought Founders pack(s) and/or Collector pack(s).
After some time it will be available for all.

 

[GreiverBlade]

For now it's only for guys who bought Founders pack(s) and Collector pack(s).
After some time it will be available for all.

ohhh so for me it's not until the 17 December then

(i decided to take the Taifun II package for patriotic reason ... )

 

[burebista]

(i decided to take the Taifun II package for patriotic reason ... )

Funny I bought Taifun pack too but because that TD is unique in AW. It has no turret and it reminds me about Tier 9 Foch from WoT.

 

[GreiverBlade]

Funny I bought Taifun pack too but because that TD is unique in AW. It has no turret and it reminds me about Tier 9 Foch from WoT.

well for me it remember me the Hetzer ... we got one in demo on a parent's day in my company, since the Taifun II was discontinued in 1982 as i said in another thread, i was 1yrs old when they did ... tho they kept the Hetzer in some places
ok that's kinda logical ... since the Taifun II there was only 1 made and the Hetzer quite a lot more.

tho in WoT well i got the same reference in mind (that and the Hetzer from Girls und Panzer ... sorry ... i am a anime fan on the side, you should see my WoWs ships ... )

edit:
G13 Post war version of the Jagdpanzer 38 built for Switzerland, armed with a StuK 40 gun.[6]

 

[Tatty_Two]

What are the premium costs in AW?

 

[GreiverBlade]

What are the premium costs in AW?

mhhh i just checked for me it would cost 11.29chf/11.42$ (converted from 30days 2200golds with a 2750golds package ) i've seen worth ratio

 

[burebista]

Tanks or time?

LE: 3250 gold for a Tier 6 Premium tank. These days MBT-70 is at 20% discount (I have it and it's fun in PvE and PvP).
1000 gold for a Tier 4 and less for a Tier 3 (I'm not at home now and I speak from memory).

A Collector Edition is a nice offer. For 35 euros you have a Tier 6 Premium tank, 3 mil credits, 2 months of premium time, 3250 gold (same amount for buying another T6 Premium tank from tech-tree) and a 25% boost for XP and credits for a week.

The 65 euros Collector pack is more beefy than regular packs but I decided that for start is enough a regular one for me.

 

[ne6togadno]

well that's the only thing that redeem the T-54 for me ... (tho 48km/h is not faster than 48km/h unless you talk about acceleration )

strange i can't find the user bar on my profile ... no option to add them

you rarely can hit max speed stat with mbts. but t-54 accelerates faster and gets higher speed then M48. at least that is how i feel it thou i could be wrong. when i play i rarely pay attention to anything else then vicitime in my scope.

What I like most in AW is open minded developer. They improved WoT mechanics in all aspects and they are listening to player suggestions.
They also bring new stuff on table (base, PvE for example).

Of course it's (plenty of) room to improve AW but I think that they're on the right path to do it.
So that's why I choose them instead WoT or WT. All I want is to have fun with a tank game. For me it doesn't matter if it's arcade or realistic as long it is fun to play.

LE: About choosing to play PvE. I know it's a multiplayer game and I really want to play against humans but now AW playerbase is mostly from WoT and even if the games looks the same the gameplay is not. So now games are completely a landslide (unfortunately I'm usually on the loosing team) and finished in 5 minutes or so. Not funny for me TBH.

So until the playerbase will understand that AW is not WoT (gameplay wise) I'll stick to PvE.

my comment on realisam was more about tank stats rather then gameplay wise. ofc they cant make fully realistic mmo. as soon as it become reallistic it will stop to be mmo. but compare stats of the tanks in wot and in aw (at least for those that are available in bot games). in aw i havent seen "in game models of russian tanks (or any other) have bigger scale factor (therefore they are smaller) then the rest of the tanks because we have decided so" like it is in wot.
gameplay wise in aw reprecentation of speed is done better and you realy can make difference between mbt, scout and "med tank" while in wot most of the time scouts run on pair with meds.
as for the fun. since i've started to play aw i tryed to play wot 2 times just for comparison. first time couldnt stand more then 3 matches. 2nd time manage to get daily win with 3 of my tds and gw tiger after about 10 games and gave up. havent played it since then.

 

[GreiverBlade]

well on paper the T54 is not faster than the M48 48.60km/h is 48.60km/h i always got 38ish km/h on both in similar situations, tho it might accelerate faster which is a plus to me. (ok we can say it feel faster in that case )

edit: woopsies the T54 does not even accelerate faster than the M48 : 9.00 sec fully upgraded versus 7.30 sec for the M48

sold the M48 after finishing it, to get and test the BMP-1 : a fun little one
now aiming for the Gvosdika as 1st T4 and arty training

i managed to get several good results on medium mission with the XM800T

as for WoT ... now i can't even log in ... AW is more fun and gameplay wise more to my liking
WG do well for ships ... Steel Ocean is not even remotely what i seek and find in WoWs, planes... well War Thunder manage to be more interesting for me, and Tank (which was their 1st) well AW take the crown in this case

j-6 before i can finally get an show my support to that game ...

 

[ne6togadno]

well on paper the T54 is not faster than the M48 48.60km/h is 48.60km/h i always got 38ish km/h on both in similar situations, tho it might accelerate faster which is a plus to me. (ok we can say it feel faster in that case )

edit: woopsies the T54 does not even accelerate faster than the M48 : 9.00 sec fully upgraded versus 7.30 sec for the M48

sold the M48 after finishing it, to get and test the BMP-1 : a fun little one
now aiming for the Gvosdika as 1st T4 and arty training

i managed to get several good results on medium mission with the XM800T

as for WoT ... now i can't even log in ... AW is more fun and gameplay wise more to my liking
WG do well for ships ... Steel Ocean is not even remotely what i seek and find in WoWs, planes... well War Thunder manage to be more interesting for me, and Tank (which was their 1st) well AW take the crown in this case

j-6 before i can finally get an show my support to that game ...

i will try them both tonight. i havent played m48 a lot of time so i might have wrong impression left.
when you get arty after first few train fights go in pvp. it may take some time till you get match but you will farm better then in pve. there are quite few pve maps where t4 arty could be useful and you can play max med contratct where bots die before you can turn your turret so most of the time you want see much xp.
when you go in pvp keep in mind that you are visible for enemy arty for few sec even thou you havent been spoted (till blinking circles are on the minimap) so make sure you have hard cover close to you or move after every shot (and by move i mean move a lot).

 

[GreiverBlade]

i've found my moneymaker ... i got several Blue Star award (max reputation) during some med mission in a Leopard 1 (one of the T3 i have that i like the most ), and i got a bit more efficient on the XM800T, i will have the funds for the Gvosdika before i reach the 75 pve battle prerequisite (59/75 atm)

i will try them both tonight. i havent played m48 a lot of time so i might have wrong impression left.
when you get arty after first few train fights go in pvp. it may take some time till you get match but you will farm better then in pve. there are quite few pve maps where t4 arty could be useful and you can play max med contratct where bots die before you can turn your turret so most of the time you want see much xp.
when you go in pvp keep in mind that you are visible for enemy arty for few sec even thou you havent been spoted (till blinking circles are on the minimap) so make sure you have hard cover close to you or move after every shot (and by move i mean move a lot).

well ... a Arty is kinda like a sniper in a FPS or MMOfps you shoot you move never 2 time in the same spot. thanks for the tips @ne6togadno

Leopard 1... you don't say?


edit ... since my birthday was the 12 i treated myself with the Emperor Collector Ed. (well that make the game at a normal retail game price, so ... no biggies)

12 tanks for now ( 1 T2 4 T3 4 T4 3 T6)... tasted the Tier 6 battle (i keep at medium for now ) well it took me a bit before not being last in scoreboard xD

tho ... man the Leo 2 is a beast (out damaged me from 4K dmg more) i was using the MBT-70 ... and we got a AFK Leo 2A5, dang ... not even a shooter award tho 23 hit for 25 fired and above 6k dmg (Shillelagh fired from a higher ground FTW! )


Tai... fun 23 fired 23 hit ... yay! altho 2nd rank (i got a 1st rank on a loss just before that one but i was the sole survivor ) well casemate TD are kinda a oddball (lucky the only one is that one ... )


Gvosdika finished: Akatsiya in line but for now i will settle the arty deal with the Abbot

i can do better ... 68% hit ratio is ...

 

[Tatty_Two]

Well I downloaded the 21GB HD version which took me about 6 hours and I have to say, graphically it looks very nice, I am finding it fairly complex but I suppose that's because it's new and all I have played for 6 years is WOT.

Only played the PvE battles so far in that farty little thing but the controls seem nice, have started to build buildings but really have no clue what I am doing yet, is it normal that I end up in the same scenario for each battle and just repeat myself each time earning a bit of cash, I don't seem to get a choice on PvE?

 

[ne6togadno]

Well I downloaded the 21GB HD version which took me about 6 hours and I have to say, graphically it looks very nice, I am finding it fairly complex but I suppose that's because it's new and all I have played for 6 years is WOT.

Only played the PvE battles so far in that farty little thing but the controls seem nice, have started to build buildings but really have no clue what I am doing yet, is it normal that I end up in the same scenario for each battle and just repeat myself each time earning a bit of cash, I don't seem to get a choice on PvE?

easy contracts are just 2 or 3 scenarios switched by timer i think but not 100% sure (like from X h pm to Y h pm you get scenario 1, from Y h pm to Z h pm you get scenario 2 etc). could be quite repetitive but as soon as you get t3 and start med contracts things become more diverse. i got t3 tank asap and then went back to grind rest of the t2 and start tanks for other dealer. till time you have all pre requirements for t3 tank you should have enough money to buy it as well.
and yes you dont have control over scenario beside if it will be easy, medium, hard (comes with t5) or insane (duno what tier comes this but it isnt 7 for sure) contract.

i've had time to play a bit more with challenger 1 and ya it definitely is an oil tanker (at least with stock engine and w/o retrofits) but frontal armour is top notch and can carry infinite amount of punishment. most of the time i get armourer correct name is target achievement w/o my hp to drop below 50% (had only one such case so far). stock gun however is pathetic. can pen only light tanks and arty. i have little left to unlock top gun and a little bit more for top ammo but looking at stats i am not very optimistic.

@GreiverBlade
i've tested both M48 and T-54 and yes speed wise they are pretty same with m48 having a bit better acceleration and hull traverse (very little difference) but T-54 has better front plate geometry and gun. it is much easier to get rico with it. if you look at wikipedia you will see that in rl T-54 indeed had better gun compared to M48 and challenger centurion. this is visible in game quite well. nothing in common with wot bullshits.

 

[GreiverBlade]

@GreiverBlade
i've tested both M48 and T-54 and yes speed wise they are pretty same with m48 having a bit better acceleration and hull traverse (very little difference) but T-54 has better front plate geometry and gun. it is much easier to get rico with it. if you look at wikipedia you will see that in rl T-54 indeed had better gun compared to M48 and challenger centurion. this is visible in game quite well. nothing in common with wot bullshits.

yep i know that (the irl fact, like for navy ships ... i am also a tank freak) and about the good thing about the T-54 versus Patton




got myself a Akatsiya, a FRC-90 F4, Leo 1A5 and the BMD-1 (really fun that one) and played for a bit with the T-64, unlocked the Begleitpanzer (need to farm a bit to pay it, also nicknamed Brigitte by me because of the shortened naming Bglt. Pz57)
so far my fav T6 is the Taifun II and not because it's a freeXP tank(tho for certain maps i love the Akatsiya).
in the "real" premium, i guess the Zhalo-S is my favorite by a long shot

btw in T5 and T6 the max mission is "hard" maybe for T7 too and then Insane is T8 to "future" T10

also good that you can see what mission, to select the Tank after checking what you will get, for example : "Perseus", "Scorpio" and " Harbinger" i always choose the Abbot or the Akatsiya

 

[ne6togadno]

from t4 i left only with m109, sheridan and swingfire to grind to 100%. got M60A3 and i am working for gun upgrades. just passed 50% with erc 90-f4 and started pvp with it. with T-72 i am at about 65-70%. have a lot of t5 tanks unlocked but no $ for them cause payed 750k for top gun of challenger 1...

 

[burebista]

Only played the PvE battles so far in that farty little thing but the controls seem nice, have started to build buildings but really have no clue what I am doing yet, is it normal that I end up in the same scenario for each battle and just repeat myself each time earning a bit of cash, I don't seem to get a choice on PvE?

For start you're playing only Easy on PvE. From Tier 2 (or 3) you'll have Medium too and starting from Tier 5 you'll have Hard. From Tier 8 Insane mode pops in.
But IIRC starting from today patch those modes are lowered by 1 tier (as Insane for Tier 7, Hard from Tier 4, etc).
Maps are rotating (I didn't spot the interval but it's something like 20-30 min a new set of maps are showing).
A tip for maps. Perseus, Life Jacket, Rolling Thunder gives you a sh!tload of XP and decent credits (compared with other PvE maps of course).

As for buildings for me credits and free XP were first to level 5. Then according to your taste. XP for crew is nice because with every new tank you'll have a brand new crew (you can swap commanders between tanks but crew is tied only for that tank), reducing repair costs (mostly for PvP), reducing costs of retrofits (but you'll have some time until you'll unlock some retrofits) and so on.

A tip for raw materials. In a patch day if you log once before servers shutdown you'll take 100 raw materials. Logging again same day after servers are up you'll get another 100 raw materials.

A nice article about crew/equipment/consumables. Also that blog is nice, it looks similar with SilentStalker's ForTheRecord or Rita's StatusReport.

Yesterday I've had a funny game in Challenger. MM was fubar and I was the last man standing and in last minute without ammo. It was funny.
This tank is a monster in PVE.

 

[GreiverBlade]

A tip for raw materials. In a patch day if you log once before servers shutdown you'll take 100 raw materials. Logging again same day after servers are up you'll get another 100 raw materials.]

good to know! i did well to log this morning at 3am before going to sleep

from t4 i left only with m109, sheridan and swingfire to grind to 100%. got M60A3 and i am working for gun upgrades. just passed 50% with erc 90-f4 and started pvp with it. with T-72 i am at about 65-70%. have a lot of t5 tanks unlocked but no $ for them cause payed 750k for top gun of challenger 1...

neat ... me i can't just bring myself to like the M109 ... if it was the Paladin, i would maybe ... (since it's the M109 that is the closest to the Swiss KAWEST version albeit the KAWEST is based on the M109A1 and the Paladin is a A6 ) only the Abbot and the Akatsiya qualify, since they do size 3 salvo, tho the HERAP ammunition seems nice, i might go for the Swingfire for a test later when the server is up

this is why i love mountain map in a SPG (Perseus is a good one for that)

i can't still bring me to a PVP session ...

dedicated my spare 60gb SSD for AW ... well no big difference between that and my previous 7k2 HDD but, who really care ... always better than having a spare SSD that lay over for nothing

edit: yay for a free T-59! weeee!!! (and a surrealist xmas garage ... )

 

[bogmali]

Decided to try it and liking it so far....only tier 3 vics unlocked so far but I can buy a the tier 4 that is unlocked but I will wait until I max out the T62

Oh and free T-59 today

 

[GreiverBlade]

awww yeah i got my Leopard 2AV ... ok ... i took the ICE edition tho ... (since they did go nice to the point of giving a Type 56 for free i thought: why not )

@ne6togadno i understand the "oil tanker" term ... god the Chieftain Mk.5 is ... sluggish

 

[Tatty_Two]

Played a few battles now, mainly PvE but a couple of PvP also, I like it, nice graphics, very realistic in comparison to WOT, just on the Leopard 1 currently but enjoying the medium difficulty contracts more. I needz Arty though!

 

[burebista]

I needz Arty though!

Ssssh! Don't tell anyone you like arty cuz you'll be lynched.

 

[Tatty_Two]

Ssssh! Don't tell anyone you like arty cuz you'll be lynched.

You sound like a WOT player lol, in my WOT garage I have 17, 10 of which are arty!

 

[burebista]

Ex-hardcore WoT player man. 46k battles until 2 years ago when I've uninstalled it.

 

[Tatty_Two]

Not uninstalling mine in a hurry, I am on 24K battles, been there since closed Beta but I don't game often but I still have 2 months of a premium account on it so still play it to get my money's worth!

So at what point can I get my hands on arty?

 

[burebista]

Just play with dealers tanks and you'll unlock first arty (forgot requirements but they're written in that arty box in tech tree). After that, it's same routine, play with arty to unlock next arty.

LE: I'm at work and that's a picture from the webz. 50 battles in PvP or 75 battles in PvE with any tanks from that dealer.