The Conroe865PE thread... for AGP users... stock and mod

[dorsetknob]

my old boards are boxed up and in storage
Different boards support different things

do not have 4 gig of DDR Ram to check and test
Don't have a full system built at moment to check ccc and i think your find that is defined by Card hardware support

 

[Azrael5]

my old boards are boxed up and in storage
Different boards support different things

do not have 4 gig of DDR Ram to check and test
Don't have a full system built at moment to check ccc and i think your find that is defined by Card hardware support

Here the reason of my question: "is there someone using currently this board?" because in opposite case I cannot have a possible answer. I have to know this information to avoid spending useless time to change motherboard from pt880 chipset motherboard (unable to run bank interleave when 4 dimms are used), to conroe865pe. I've already verified informations online and it seems these features are supported but without any evidence provided by diagnostic image (i've searched in vain).

 

[dorsetknob]

pt880 chipset runs duel channel which is better than bank interleave

My asrock duel sata only has 2 DDR Slots
(Max. capacity of system memory: 2GB)
(or ) 2 DDR2 (Max. capacity of system memory: 2GB)

and my Asrock i465 is 2 x DDR duel channel (Max. capacity of system memory: 2GB)

 

[Azrael5]

pt880 chipset runs duel channel which is better than bank interleave

and my Asrock i465 is 2 x DDR duel channel (Max. capacity of system memory: 2GB)

Ok but also conroe865pe supports dual channel (for all 4 dimms), besides supporting bank interleave. interleaving is disabled on my pt880 model (since I cannot modify the BIOS) losING circa 300MB of memory bandwidth when all 4 slots are populated. So I've decided to use the same components eventually onto conroe865pe. I like pt880 chipset system however I've also a conroe model eventually to use. I own also another system based on PTR880 that is 4coredual-sata2 where I've only 2 dimms (2GB) without any problems but to take advantage from 4 OCZ PLATINUM DDR400 Iv'e to use a specific motherboard able to match dual channel and bank interleave. The latest mobo I will use with ddr400 will be an asrock 939 790gx chipset provided of pci express 2.0 and sata II, a very rare exemplary.

 

[TRWOV]

Sorry for not getting back to you sooner Azrael5

CPU-Z 1.41 screenshots

I'm running AMC 1.60 bios, I don't know if the official 1.70 bios has Bank interleave enabled or not. I'll flash the bios and try again.

 

[TRWOV]

ps: if you use an ati/amd gpu card you can see fast write enabled or disabled consulting catalyst control center.

In which part of CCC can I find that? This is the hardware tab:

 

[Uazzamerican]

Hi all,
I stumbled across a Conroe865pe... Now I got them all (775dua-vsta, am2nf3-vsta and now the Conroe), looks like I really want to have problems.
I am thinking of set up a powerfull AGP DDR1 system with QX6700 SSDs and HD4670.
Now...
First: my memory is 4 sticks of Mushkin XP4000 1Gb,
https://www.memoryc.com/products/de...treme_Performance_Dual_Channel_kit/index.html
they are natively CL3 and I read here that I need CL2 memory to use with Conroe Chips, so I can't figure how to make them work togheter, they work on two slots, when all 4 slots are populated the system won't boot or boots after several attempts. Maybe it's because mem is cl3? I even set them to 2 in bios/underclock the FSB to 800MHz/change bios to 1.60 and 1.72, same behaviour.
What should I look on ebay?

Second: I want to use two Intel SSD320 in RAID 0 config, is it possible? I know there is no raid function, but is there a mod for the ICH5 to do this?

Any help would be appreciated

 

[hat]

I'm not sure why it won't boot with 4 sticks, but you don't need CL3 ram to run Conroe chips. CL2, being lower latency, will perform better, but the difference is sure to be marginal.

Have you tried each stick of RAM individually, and in each slot? It's possible you got some dead sticks or a dead slot on the board.

 

[Uazzamerican]

I'm not sure why it won't boot with 4 sticks, but you don't need CL3 ram to run Conroe chips. CL2, being lower latency, will perform better, but the difference is sure to be marginal.

Have you tried each stick of RAM individually, and in each slot? It's possible you got some dead sticks or a dead slot on the board.

I read on this forum that on this board conroe chips want cl2 or 2.5 ram.
The sticks are all functional and so are the slots, I used in dual channel two of them with no problems at all.
Here the system with 2 sticks and a Q6600 (qx6700 is on the way).

 

[hat]

For performance reasons maybe, not compatibility. Nothing is going to break by running CL3 RAM.

Maybe the memory controller then is weak. Try going into CMOS, raising NB voltage, and try running 4 sticks again.

 

[rtwjunkie]

I read on this forum that on this board conroe chips want cl2 or 2.5 ram.

True. IIRC, my 2 years with this board as a nostalgia item it played best at CL2.5, on BIOS 1.70.

 

[dorsetknob]

Do not know if this would help you as i have never used it
( other members may have and can pass judgment as to its suitability )

SPDTool is a straightforward and practical piece of software worth having when you need to read, edit and flash your memory's SPD effortlessly. What’s more, the application comes in handy for users who need to modify the content of the SPD EEPROM on memory modules.

Link in Spoiler

Spoiler: SPD TOOL use at your own risk

http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/spdtool-read-edit-and-flash-your-memorys-spd.20349/

 

[Uazzamerican]

The link was dead but thank you! I'll give SPDtool a shot.
But maybe here there is a problme of compatibility between the Mushkin XP4000 sticks and the motherboard.
Can you suggest some other (affordable) CL2 memory?
On Ebay is really a mess and sometimes the seller doesn't know what is selling, maybe I need a specific model to search.

 

[rtwjunkie]

The link was dead but thank you! I'll give SPDtool a shot.
But maybe here there is a problme of compatibility between the Mushkin XP4000 sticks and the motherboard.
Can you suggest some other (affordable) CL2 memory?
On Ebay is really a mess and sometimes the seller doesn't know what is selling, maybe I need a specific model to search.

Correct, it's the only board I ever had that did not like Mushkin. The two I found that worked well were Ultra CL2, and G-Skill CL2.5.

 

[dorsetknob]

PM @W1zzard
request the tool from him

google has softpedia as having it but i would sooner you obtain it from @W1zzard

 

[cdawall]

I have a copy of it if you want me to upload it on here. I use it in my old laptop.

 

[cdawall]

Here is the actual original download from TPU years ago.

 

[Uazzamerican]

I managed to fine the 0.63 one but thank you!
So I am out of luck with my Mushkin memory... Can you suggest some other brand/models?
As for RAID 0, is it possible?
I am away from home in these days I will return next week, so I really want to gather all information I can before I will put my hand again on the PC.

 

[rtwjunkie]

Can you suggest some other brand/models?

see here. exact models unknown, but I'm pretty sure I have them listed somewhere in the previous 15 pages.

The two I found that worked well were Ultra CL2, and G-Skill CL2.5.

 

[Azrael5]

@TRWOV


this is the first image you can see BANK INTERLEAVE informations (none at 4096MB) on PT880 motherboard provided of 4 ddr400 slots. You can see FAST WRITE enabled in the CCC of 9.10 drivers where GART is implemented from XP. However. Another way to see if the mainboard bios apply bank interleave and fast write evantually hidden features is HWINFO program.

These pics concern with BANK INTERLEAVE and FAST WRITE on my motherboard by HWINFO program.

 

[TRWOV]

I'm not sure why it won't boot with 4 sticks, but you don't need CL3 ram to run Conroe chips. CL2, being lower latency, will perform better, but the difference is sure to be marginal.

Have you tried each stick of RAM individually, and in each slot? It's possible you got some dead sticks or a dead slot on the board.

It is a requirement for the 865 chipset, according to Asrock at least... and it seems that Uazzamerican has confirmed it

 

[rtwjunkie]

It is a requirement for the 865 chipset, according to Asrock at least... and it seems that Uazzamerican has confirmed it

Yeah, like I said, mine would only ever run with CL2.5 or below.

 

[TRWOV]

I also had XP4000 sticks and they didn't work. Ended up using them on a P4 build. I use 4 1GB OCZ EL Platinum sticks (2.5-2-5)

RAID wasn't a thing on the 865 chipset, you need 875 for that.

 

[hat]

It is a requirement for the 865 chipset, according to Asrock at least... and it seems that Uazzamerican has confirmed it

Guess I stand corrected then. Still seems very strange, though.

 

[TRWOV]

It has something to do with the 1066Mhz FSB and not something related to the Core 2s, the Pentium Extreme 965 also required CL2.5 RAM on the Conroe865PE