New GP104 ASIC Picture Hints at GTX 1080 with GDDR5X Memory

[btarunr]

A new picture of NVIDIA GP104 "Pascal" ASIC surrounded with GDDR5X memory chips hints at the possibility of NVIDIA reserving the new fast memory standard for the GTX 1080, and older GDDR5 for the more affordable GTX 1070. The picture reveals a GP104 chip with the ASIC code "GP104-400-A1," surrounded by eight Micron-made GDDR5X memory chips. We know from an older article that this ASIC code denotes the top-tier GTX 1080. A second picture (recently posted) reveals a "GP104-200-A1" ASIC surrounded by conventional GDDR5 memory chips. This ASIC corresponds to the second-fastest GTX 1070.

GDDR5 and GDDR5X are nearly identical electrically, and it's quite conceivable that the GP104 chip features a memory controller that supports both standards. GDDR5 can be had at speeds of up to 8 Gbps, while GDDR5X chips can range between 10 Gbps thru 12 Gbps initially, with 14 Gbps chips planned for a little later. Besides memory, CUDA core count could be another factor that sets the two SKUs apart. NVIDIA is planning to launch a total of three SKUs based on the GP104 silicon, in June 2016, beginning with the GTX 1080 and GTX 1070 in early-June (probably along the sidelines of Computex 2016), and a third SKU in mid-June.



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[Prima.Vera]

Hoping for a GPU that can play the latest AAA titles with full details on 3440x1440@100Hz...

 

[Shou Miko]

Hoping for a GPU that can play the latest AAA titles with full details on 3440x1440@100Hz...

is not the time to joke and say no u need the quad-sli GTX Titan when they come to do that?

 

[TheGuruStud]

Hoping for a GPU that can play the latest AAA titles with full details on 3440x1440@100Hz...

You'll be waiting till sometime next year and I bet it still takes two cards.

 

[Dethroy]

Sounds like we will have to wait for 1080 TI to get HBM2. Will probably wait until then unless 1070 is a steal perf/$ wise or if Polaris reigns supreme. Will be interesting to see how everything pans out.

 

[P4-630]

Waiting for the GTX1070, I don't care if it has GDDR5, just be it without crippled memory please...

 

[Caring1]

Waiting for the GTX1070, I don't care if it has GDDR5, just be it without crippled memory please...

If all 8Gb's runs at the slow speed as per the 970, will it still be classed as crippled?

 

[Shou Miko]

Waiting for the GTX1070, I don't care if it has GDDR5, just be it without crippled memory please...

u mean hopefully Nvidia learned from the GTX 970 and don't disable a L2 cache and wire 0,5gb memory to another L2 cache

 

[P4-630]

If all 8Gb's runs at the slow speed as per the 970, will it still be classed as crippled?

LOL, well that would be something haha, l'm sure it won't be like that, they should do it right this time

 

[Dethroy]

Hoping for a GPU that can play the latest AAA titles with full details on 3440x1440@100Hz...

I'd be happy with 3.440 x 1.440 @ 60 fps.

Waiting for the GTX1070, I don't care if it has GDDR5, just be it without crippled memory please...

Would be awesome if the GTX1070 could handle the aforementioned settings while drawing little power and be within 300-350€.

 

[P4-630]

Would be awesome if the GTX1070 could handle the aforementioned settings while drawing little power and be within 300-350€.

I really do hope so...

 

[john_]

From the first time I was betting on GP104 going in all three GTX 1080Ti, GTX 1080 and GTX 1070 cards. Going from 28nm to 14nm is a big step for Nvidia not to take advantage of it and relegate 1080Ti to the mid GPU. Now I am looking at Guru3Ds article that predicts GP 104-400 for 1080Ti, GP 104-200 for 1080 and GP 104-150 for 1070 and I think this is the most possible scenario. As for prices. If 1080Ti is as fast as 980Ti, then I am expecting it to come at $650, 1080 at $500 and 1070 at $350-$400.

 

[Xzibit]

Hoping for a GPU that can play the latest AAA titles with full details on 3440x1440@100Hz...

Its GTX 1080. You'll have to tone down the detail especially if games include any GameWorks features. That's why Nvidia isn't calling it the GTX 1440.

 

[RejZoR]

I really do hope so...

GTX 1070 will most likely be as fast as GTX 980. Maybe tiny bit faster, but don't count on it too much.

 

[P4-630]

GTX 1070 will most likely be as fast as GTX 980. Maybe tiny bit faster, but don't count on it too much.

Even if it was just a bit faster than the GTX970, I would still be happy as long as it does not have that "slow" memory part as with the GTX970.

 

[jabbadap]

GTX 1070 will most likely be as fast as GTX 980. Maybe tiny bit faster, but don't count on it too much.

well if 2560 cuda count for full gp104 is real, I would presume cutted cuda count for gtx1070 will still be higher than full 2048 cc of gm204. And thus will likely be faster than gtx980.

 

[the54thvoid]

The PCB is from an MSI Gaming card, so the GDDR5X claim may not be exactly true. Videocardz reported on it and noticed shroud mounting anomalies that matched MSI's gaming series cards.
Could be a vendor specific use of GDDR5X.

 

[john_]

well if 2560 cuda count for full gp104 is real, I would presume cutted cuda count for gtx1070 will still be higher than full 2048 cc of gm204. And thus will likely be faster than gtx980.

GTX 1080Ti 2560 cores
GTX 1080 2048 cores
GTX 1070 1664 cores
(just a guess)

Same number of cores in 2 of 3 cases, but newer architecture, 16nm, lower power consumption, better DX12 feature support, all future driver/gameworks optimizations targeting Pascal architecture, 8GB of memory. Enough to make these cards look much better than Maxwell equivalents.

 

[bug]

Even if it was just a bit faster than the GTX970, I would still be happy as long as it does not have that "slow" memory part as with the GTX970.

Why? Have you seen a single benchmark where the GTX 970 suffers because of that?
They can configure the memory however they want the GTX 970 can still do all this: http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_970_Gaming/27.html

 

[loop]

It want be GTX 1080Ti with GP 104
GTX 1080Ti wille be GP 100 or 102 otherwise it want be a real Ti, Could you imagine that the new TITAN with full GP100 being 30-40% faster than the "GTX 1080Ti" it would be and from the marketing point of view a suicidal choice for NVIDIA to scrap the "Ti" naming for sth like that, doing the same thing that AMD did with the FX naming to their cpu, bach in the 2005 and before the FX naming was the exact of "Extreme Edition" from intel and now is synonymous to crap

 

[the54thvoid]

Its GTX 1080. You'll have to tone down the detail especially if games include any GameWorks features. That's why Nvidia isn't calling it the GTX 1440.

In fairness, for 100hz, no single cards are appropriate. Obviously the GTX 1080, if a 980ti straight replacement will potentially be the best performance card until Vega and/or GP100.

Nvidia also don't use the 1440 nomenclature because that would just be silly now, wouldn't it. You silly sausage.

 

[matar]

GTX 1070 with reference cooler is my next GPU I hope its 8GB GDDR5X and no VRAM issues like GTX 970

 

[Moofachuka]

let's all hope the 1070 will be as fast as 980Ti just like 970 was as fast as 780Ti

 

[GhostRyder]

Well that would be very interesting to have the 1080 and 1070 be separated by a difference of memory like that but with the same amount. Will be cool to have them both benched together to see how big of a difference between the two there is (Besides the lowered performance from the loss of cores).

 

[EarthDog]

If all 8Gb's runs at the slow speed as per the 970, will it still be classed as crippled?

W.T.F?????????