AMD Radeon RX 480 8 GB

[Frick]

Not what I meant. I mean it is sad because once again we have a generation where AMD is extremely far behind in power and heat, and can't compete in the high end performance segment. We have to wait for Vega to come out to get competition performance wise to the 1070/1080, and by then GP102 will be ready and faster. But GP102 cards will be overpriced because they have no competition... Lack of competition is bad, and means we as the consumer loose. I was hoping RX 480 would at least come close to the 1070 to warrant a slight price cut from nVidia, but nope... Even in crossfire, two of these can't compete with a 1070.

Plus, it annoys me that AMD has gone quite a bit out of spec on the power consumption, pulling beyond spec from the PCI-E slot and PCI-E 6-pin. I've seen this cause the 24-pin connector melt.

The only way Vega will beat anything is clearly if it pulls several million watts. Which is fine, IMO, if the price is very competitive (partly because PSU's last forever compared to GPU's and the high end gamers generally sit on big PSU's). I'm betting it won't be though. :/

 

[Casecutter]

While a little off on the performance I had hoped it still could have potential. I need to see more reviews, but the other I've look at was somewhat down on the cooler (while not as bad as here) it seem to just be reference adequate. I think the AIB can do a lot with what they have and was more waiting for those. And yes the power numbers shown here seem to again not follow the quick perusing I've done to this point of other sites.

 

[lays]

Prices here so far go from €280-340. GTX980 is €345->, GTX970 is from €240. Good 970s. The RX 480 would be worth it IMO if not for that cooler. Seriously, fire the people responsible, they are holding you back AMD!

EDIT: Also, multimonitor is terrrrriiiiibbblllle. Seriously, WTF. But as noted above, could be drivers. It is a brand new card after all.

1. Those are launch prices. Price gouging from retailers. No one in their right mind is going to buy a GTX 970 over a non-reference normal priced RX 480

2. There's a possible driver issue, 5% performance increase is quite big

3. AMD reference cards are always hotter and more power thirsty than non-ref cards (they do need to sort this because it affects initial optics on their products)

4. Other sites are reporting lower power usage for the RX 480, perhaps there is an issue with some cards

If they launched this card with a good cooler, 5% better performance (10% over 970) and better power usage the reaction here would no doubt be very positive

That's likely what the nonreference RX 480's will be. Am I dashing out to buy one? no, waiting for non-ref benches and release of GTX 1060 (rumoured around 7th of July) before
I pull the trigger. Likewise when GTX 1060 is released I will wait for non-reference cards (although Nvidia usually do better coolers and have less rocky launches)

 

[G33k2Fr34k]

Well, I'd say that if it's about 290X performance with a much lower consumption, I'd not say that it's power hungry. My 290 draws a lot more power and therefor generates a lot more heat than this 480, but that's not the reason if I would upgrade. Some people (like me) just don't care about power consumption.

It's faster than the 290X. It's faster than the 390X in at least half of the tested games mostly thanks to its improved tessellation throughput. The problem is the shitty stock AMD cooler.

 

[GAR]

Wow....this is sad.....Amd again lied in the slides, getting tired of those shade antics by Amd. I bet zen is also amazing as well....get ready for another let down.

 

[Frick]

BTW, full system power.

Intel Core i7-5930K @ 4,4 GHz
Asus Rampage V Extreme
16 GB Corsair Vengeance LPX, 2 133 MHz, 15-15-15-36
Corsair LX 512 GB
Corsair AX1200i 1 200 W

Wow....this is sad.....Amd again lied in the slides, getting tired of those shade antics by Amd. I bet zen is also amazing as well....get ready for another let down.

Did they though?

 

[bug]

The review is for the card sampled, not an AIB, so in that respect this card is too loud, too hot, too mediocre. Of course it needs to be cheap. The reference version frankly is disappointing.

However, I'm sure once AIB's get to tamper with it the noise and temps won't be an issue. It will be good little card with a bit of tlc

Of course it will be, but will still be a $239 card?

 

[Divide Overflow]

Performance for dollar looks outstanding, which is really what a low to mid end card is all about. Minor quibbles on heat and noise issues will be addressed by non-reference solutions.
Could care less though, really. Vega has my interest.

 

[TheDeeGee]

I read the following on Toms Hardware:

"We skipped long-term overclocking and overvolting tests, since the Radeon RX 480’s power consumption through the PCIe slot jumped to an average of 100W, peaking at 200W. We just didn’t want to do that to our test platform."

 

[GreiverBlade]

i've seen a totally true statement that made up my mind ...

waiting on AIB models ... preferably with a Strix cooler and 8pin version or even a 8pin and ref pcb and getting a fullcover block aside ...

AMD cripple it... AIB rectify it (i saw that with my 290 ref, before and after putting her on water, or my 980 Poseidon Plat .... compared to a Stock 980, it's night and day )

 

[Shou Miko]

I should get a Sapphire Radeon RX 480 home mby I will mount my Corsair H80i on this and oc it a lot

 

[G33k2Fr34k]

Performance for dollar looks outstanding, which is really what a low to mid end card is all about. Heat and noise issues will be addressed by non-reference solutions.
Could care less though, really. Vega has my interest.

Performance overall for a $230 card is outstanding. The 480 beats the 390X in both Rise of the Tomb Raider and Fallout 4, the only two games I'm playing currently. It's a great card overall. The cooler though is horrible. AMD should have just let the AIBs use their own coolers.

 

[TheDeeGee]

I should get a Sapphire Radeon RX 480 home mby I will mount my Corsair H80i on this and oc it a lot

Careful with OCing as it uses an average of 100 Watt on the PCI-E Lane.

 

[rruff]

I mean it is sad because once again we have a generation where AMD is extremely far behind in power and heat, and can't compete in the high end performance segment.

Precisely. The performance is right where I expected, and when custom cards come out they will be quieter and cooler. But the power efficiency means they will be in exactly the same spot they were last generation, as soon as Nvidia releases competing Pascal cards.

Check out the idle, multimonitor, and BR power consumption. https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/RX_480/22.html You are looking at >$10/yr more (at cheap US prices) just for electric consumption at idle! And AMD isn't going to make any headway in laptops at this rate.

Unfortunately it is more of the same from AMD, which means Nvidia can still sell their cards for a premium. AMD will probably claw back a little market share, but not much. I expect the same on the CPU side. I hope that AMD is taking at least baby steps towards profitability and sustainability, but it doesn't look like a big jump is happening soon.

 

[TheinsanegamerN]

I should get a Sapphire Radeon RX 480 home mby I will mount my Corsair H80i on this and oc it a lot

You are not going to get very far with that stock board. Wait for the AIB models.

Precisely. The performance is right where I expected, and when custom cards come out they will be quieter and cooler. But the power efficiency means they will be in exactly the same spot they were last generation, as soon as Nvidia releases competing Pascal cards.

Check out the idle, multimonitor, and BR power consumption. You are looking at >$10/yr more (at cheap US prices) just for electric consumption at idle! And AMD isn't going to make any headway in laptops at this rate.

Unfortunately it is more of the same from AMD, which means Nvidia can still sell their cards for a premium. AMD will probably claw back a little market share, but not much. I expect the same on the CPU side. I hope that AMD is taking at least baby steps towards profitability and sustainability, but it doesn't look like a big jump is happening soon.

Yup. AMD didnt learn from the 300 series that TDP matters just as much as performance to a large number of consumers. Nvidia might get that 80% market share back by christmas.

 

[arnoo1]

I really want that the gtx1060 will destroy this card, not for hating amd but hey have to step up their game to be more competitive

 

[efikkan]

This is a really sad day for AMD. All the hype aside, this card isn't anywhere near the efficiency gains AMD promised, and does not perform good enough either. It's only selling point is performance is performance per dollar, which even the old GTX 970 is able to match.

We knew this chip never could cope with GTX 1070, but I was hoping the performance gap would be more like 30% rather than 50%. Just as important, the performance per watt is on par with Maxwell on 28nm. Even with Nvidia pushing their GTX 1070/1080 really high, they still achieve 70-80% better efficiency. At similar clocks Nvidia will be close to twice the efficiency of Polaris, meaning the efficiency gap has not decreased. This is pretty extreme considering Polaris achieves the efficiency of Maxwell on an inferior node. When Nvidia get's their GP106 and GP107 out AMD will be crushed, both in the low-end desktop and in the laptop segments.

 

[snakefist]

What's wrong with all of you? How was this card advertised?

"A card for 1080, for a mainstream gamer. Fairly priced."

And what it is? Hmmm, it performs as 970 (for less price) - it's a candidate for replacing my few years old, mid-range card. Will probably wait better cooler, though.

1440p/4k lovers - go buy what actually can move your games, spend 800eur - we're not in the same class. But take a look (on Steam, for instance) - how many people actually PLAYS 4k? And how many people actually owns integrated GPU... You'd be quite surprised by results, judging by comments here...

And for save-the-planet bunch: what's your PSU wattage? 300W? 500W? You go to flame wars for 20W - one energy-efficient lightbulb equivalent. Sorry, I don't agree with your logic - as long as I own a fridge, freezer and several kW-ranged home appliances. Hell, my wife's hairdryer uses 2kW. So, if I gamed heavily 12h/day, I'd use the similar extra power as she does on daily basis...

I guess most posters here are quite distant from the real world and real life and expect no-energy consuming hardware able to run most demanding games of today (quite high expectations), and don't care at all about the cost of it (quite low expectations - I pay attention on cost greatly). Go ahead, tell me that extra 20W (applies to various hardware wattage comments in the past) will return 600eur soon. If you think so, then you obviously don't pay electric bills - your parents do...

I don't claim that this card is ideal - but do that it does what they said it will. Mainstream gaming, decent price. Look at the Performance/$ (and Watt/$, save the whales). And if the principle "no way in hell that I'll ever pay 500eur (much less 1000) for a GPU" is applied, than I have to accept 1080p gaming (not that hard at all) and mid or low range.

One other thing - 1060 in JULY? Vega in OCTOBER? They're both lying, if you ask me...

 

[Frick]

This is a really sad day for AMD. All the hype aside, this card isn't anywhere near the efficiency gains AMD promised, and does not perform good enough either. It's only selling point is performance is performance per dollar, which even the old GTX 970 is able to match.

What did they promise though? Serious question, as I have no idea. The effeciency gains are good, when compared to the previous generation.

 

[xorbe]

I think they should have thrown a few more cores at it to be around 980 level for the $240 price. Or, the 8GB model should be $200 for the 970 level performance. Looking at NE, there's a 970 for $240 and a 980 for $295.

 

[Air]

I just realised this chip will be terrible for notebooks, where power consumption is a lot more important. With the same cooling/power budget, Nvidia can offer 80% more performance.

 

[efikkan]

What did they promise though? Serious question, as I have no idea. The effeciency gains are good, when compared to the previous generation.

2.5× performance/watt. It's not anywhere near that. Perhaps if you underclock it to 800 MHz it will get closer to 2×

 

[Frick]

I just realised it this chip wll be terrible for mobile, where power comsumption is a lot more important. Whit the same cooling/power budget, Nvidia can offer 80% more performance.

Ok? When was the last time AMD had a mobile GPU?

Or do you mean laptop GPUs?

2.5× performance/watt. It's not anywhere near that. Perhaps if you underclock it to 800 MHz it will get closer to 2×

I never trust those. They never specify under what scenario.

 

[GC_PaNzerFIN]

I read the following on Toms Hardware:

"We skipped long-term overclocking and overvolting tests, since the Radeon RX 480’s power consumption through the PCIe slot jumped to an average of 100W, peaking at 200W. We just didn’t want to do that to our test platform."

Cards like this should NOT get a PCI Express SIG logo. Just no. Even typical gaming power breaks spec. And for what? Need to keep impression of efficiency and put inadequate 6-pin.

 

[rtwjunkie]

This is a really sad day for AMD. All the hype aside, this card isn't anywhere near the efficiency gains AMD promised, and does not perform good enough either. It's only selling point is performance is performance per dollar, which even the old GTX 970 is able to match.

We knew this chip never could cope with GTX 1070, but I was hoping the performance gap would be more like 30% rather than 50%. Just as important, the performance per watt is on par with Maxwell on 28nm. Even with Nvidia pushing their GTX 1070/1080 really high, they still achieve 70-80% better efficiency. At similar clocks Nvidia will be close to twice the efficiency of Polaris, meaning the efficiency gap has not decreased. This is pretty extreme considering Polaris achieves the efficiency of Maxwell on an inferior node. When Nvidia get's their GP106 and GP107 out AMD will be crushed, both in the low-end desktop and in the laptop segments.

LOL don't be so gloomy! The card performs right where realists (not overhypers) expected it to, in the 970 and 980 territory, beating the 970 most of the tine, and a few times the 980. Also, it's affordable.

I predict the only thing Nvidia is going to do is overprice their suggested price for a 1060, leaving the 480 and the follow on AIB models the clear winner.