Xeon Owners Club

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

Well, i have ordered a new Graphic Card for the X58 Machine, it should be delivered in 2 weeks.

Wicked...............i cant wait to see the results.

 

[FireFox]

LOL well i expect some bottlenecking with that... that's ridiculous but with a good OC it won't be all that bad

Why do you think it would/could bottleneck?

 

[cdawall]

Why do you think it would/could bottleneck?

Same reason the fx series bottlenecks cards. They have similar IPC, but better multithreading ability.

 

[FireFox]

fx series

Fx= AMD?
Sorry but I don't know anything about AMD cards, never had one and never bothered my self reading an article about AMD cards.

Edit: no offense for AMD owners.

 

[cdawall]

Fx= AMD?
Sorry but I don't know anything about AMD cards, never had one and never bothered my self reading an article about AMD cards.

Edit: no offense for AMD owners.

The AMD FX series is roughly as powerful in a single threaded bench as westmere/nahelem, when you step into multithreaded benchmarks the FX stuff is more similar to Haswell with Haswell-e like efficiency.

 

[Durvelle27]

Haven't even gotten my W3540 up and running yet and I'm already trying to buy a X5660

 

[Recon-UK]

The AMD FX series is roughly as powerful in a single threaded bench as westmere/nahelem, when you step into multithreaded benchmarks the FX stuff is more similar to Haswell with Haswell-e like efficiency.

Not sure how much the CPU-Z benchmark makes a difference but all FX chips lose to my XEON at 4.4ghz even the 5ghz chips in single thread, they definitely win in multithread though.

 

[cdawall]

Not sure how much the CPU-Z benchmark makes a difference but all FX chips lose to my XEON at 4.4ghz even the 5ghz chips in single thread, they definitely win in multithread though.

No different than comparing any other single benchmark. Overall they are pretty damn similar in single threading. This is where a lot of the glass ceiling comments come from for that batch of chips.

 

[Recon-UK]

No different than comparing any other single benchmark. Overall they are pretty damn similar in single threading. This is where a lot of the glass ceiling comments come from for that batch of chips.

One thing i also cannot fathom is the huge disparity under certain loads, if FX is so close to the Westmere / Nehalem arch like you mentioned.. which i also don't disagree too much on, then surely the i7 900 and Westmere XEONS would fall in line with FX very closely under emulation, yet in Dolphin & PCSX2 they flat out destroy any AMD FX chip even 5ghz+ chips again, and these emulators are not intel compiler.

http://forums.pcsx2.net/Thread-CPU-Benchmark-designed-for-PCSX2-based-on-FFX-2

FX it's just a very inconsistent architecture in my eyes, performs very well under certain conditions and will fulfill most peoples needs, but will run slow as a dog under other certain loads, unbalanced :/

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1k12sv1NXGGuSOY0NhsuONtRCte51GHKdgA7ciL76mBs/edit

 

[cdawall]

One thing i also cannot fathom is the huge disparity under certain loads, if FX is so close to the Westmere / Nehalem arch like you mentioned.. which i also don't disagree too much on, then surely the i7 900 and Westmere XEONS would fall in line with FX very closely under emulation, yet in Dolphin & PCSX2 they flat out destroy any AMD FX chip even 5ghz+ chips again, and these emulators are not intel compiler.

http://forums.pcsx2.net/Thread-CPU-Benchmark-designed-for-PCSX2-based-on-FFX-2

FX it's just a very inconsistent architecture in my eyes, performs very well under certain conditions and will fulfill most peoples needs, but will run slow as a dog under other certain loads, unbalanced :/

AMD's entire lineup of architectures have been bad at certain things. Any idea what instruction set PCSX2 uses? X87 emulation has always been an AMD weak point.

 

[Recon-UK]

AMD's entire lineup of architectures have been bad at certain things. Any idea what instruction set PCSX2 uses? X87 emulation has always been an AMD weak point.

SSE2
SSSE3
SSE4.1
AVX
AVX2

All instruction set's that these FX chips support besides the SSSE3 & AVX2 option.

Broadwell-E performing ZEN though can't wait

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

Haven't even gotten my W3540 up and running yet and I'm already trying to buy a X5660

And thus the cycle of addiction begins.

 

[Recon-UK]

And thus the cycle of addiction begins.

You know the saying... once you go Xeon you don't go back

 

[cdawall]

SSE2
SSSE3
SSE4.1
AVX
AVX2

All instruction set's that these FX chips support besides the SSSE3 & AVX2 option.

Broadwell-E performing ZEN though can't wait

How weird AMD does quite well with AVX/AVX2 as well.

 

[FireFox]

You know the saying... once you go Xeon you don't go back

I have spent 800€ in a Graphic Card for my Xeon Machine, does that mean something?

 

[dorsetknob]

I have spent 800€ in a Graphic Card for my Xeon Machine, does that mean something?

It means you have €800 ( Its Secondhand now and not worth as much )card that will go in another machine if needed

 

[Durvelle27]

Is $45 for a X5650 a good deal

 

[Recon-UK]

Hyperthreading off.

I am convinced this chip can go much further, it's insane.

Noctua cooler has no problems with HT off look at my load temps WTF!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[FireFox]

Is $45 for a X5650 a good deal

The cheapest X5650 in Germany cost
50€ = 55.80$ and you will pay 45$ for it.
So i would say yes it's a good deal.

 

[Recon-UK]

Anyone want a single thread fight? bring your FX's, or don't

 

[Recon-UK]

Well for whatever reason these are my load temps at 4.4ghz with a stress test running.

I know it's a colder day today but that don't account for a massive almost 40c drop at load, HT must murder my cooler

 

[cdawall]

Hyperthreading off.

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I am convinced this chip can go much further, it's insane.

Noctua cooler has no problems with HT off look at my load temps WTF!!!!!!!!!!!

Am I doing this wrong?

Temps on it load testing HT on obviously

 

[FireFox]

Am I doing this wrong?

Temps on it load testing HT on obviously

 

[Recon-UK]

Am I doing this wrong?

Temps on it load testing HT on obviously

no not at all doing it wrong but the reason why my temps are surprising?

http://noctua.at/en/nh-l12.html



"Caution: The NH-L12 is a low-profile quiet cooler designed for use in small form factor cases and HTPC environments. While it provides first rate performance in its class, it is not suitable for overclocking and should be used with care on CPUs with more than 95W TDP (Thermal Design Power). Please consult our TDP guidelines to find out whether the NH-L12 is recommended for your CPU."

 

[dorsetknob]

Is $45 for a X5650 a good deal

Yes Especially if you can get them to go for free postage