AMD RYZEN Demo Event - Beats $1,100 8-Core i7-6900K, With Lower TDP

[Octavean]

You're missing the bigger picture:
It will cost LESS than a i7-6900k as well.

Well, to be fair the bigger picture is that RYZEN will likely cost less then what the Core i7 6900K currently costs. Right now the Intel HEDT line is alone in the market. Reasonable competition in the HEDT segment of the market from AMD setting lower prices on the RYZEN line could simply force Intel to drop prices. Or Intel might further segment their lineup with newer models at lower prices in order to avoid dropping price on their current lineup.

I don't think there is any doubt that Intel can weather the storm of lower prices at least for the short term. In fact Intel could probably lower their prices below AMD pricing and boost performance if need be.

Its good to see there is still some fight in AMD but a price war could get ugly for them. Not ugly for the consumer though,.....

Right now, I already have a Core i7 5820K processor. Theoretically speaking:

If a RYZEN 8 core 16 thread monster came in at about ~$300 to ~$400 USD retail I would be very interested and tempted. However, if Intel were to drop prices on the Core i7 6900K to the same price range it would be easier and simpler for me to just buy the Core i7 6900K because its a drop-in upgrade. That is a big "if" though.

 

[Ja.KooLit]

wow all haters to AMD you can continue buying expensive intel or nvidia

Dont you guys happy if AMD actually deliver what they promised?

Anyway, if these Ryzen is a success and intel will step up. Consumers will get alot of benefits

 

[Dbiggs9]

Found this on the Rumor Board.

Ryzen SR7 $549 USD 8c 3.6ghz 4.2-4.4 boost
Ryzen SR5 $329 USD 6c 3.8ghz 4.4-4.7 boost

 

[ADHDGAMING]

You have no understanding of how companies work, do you?

only need to know how Lisa Sue works in this case....

 

[HD64G]

You have no understanding of how companies work, do you?

I do and he is totally correct. A clear hint there from LS about Ryzen being cheaper. Now, why don't you wait a few weeks to see who's correct about it?

And to anyone who doesn't like Intel being challenged from AMD and being pessimistic without reason after this Ryzen demo, I have to say one word. Fanboyism...

 

[Nergal]

Whatever people speculate on speed and pricing.

It will be GOOD ENOUGH to compete with Intel.

Prices will drop.

Going "Full Red" is now a real option.

If a RYZEN 8 core 16 thread monster came in at about ~$300 to ~$400 USD retail I would be very interested and tempted. However, if Intel were to drop prices on the Core i7 6900K to the same price range it would be easier and simpler for me to just buy the Core i7 6900K because its a drop-in upgrade. That is a big "if" though.

And to be honest, would you buy a CPU from a company that was priced 1.100 previous month, and now suddenly only 400? Doesn´t that just show that the company asked too much initially? And you would support that?

 

[YautjaLord]

Found this on the Rumor Board.

Ryzen SR7 $549 USD 8c 3.6ghz 4.2-4.4 boost
Ryzen SR5 $329 USD 6c 3.8ghz 4.4-4.7 boost

lol He said Rumor Board. FUDZilla charts? rofl jk

Found Guru3D, Paul's Hardware (ft. Bitwit) & some other coverage of the event on YT, check 'em out:

Motherboards, God-f*ckin-dangit! C'mon AMD, glad there's actually a 4k rig fitted with Zen & Titan X Pascal, i want actual numbers n sh!t! Dangit, i'm hyped. lol

 

[bug]

wow all haters to AMD you can continue buying expensive intel or nvidia

Dont you guys happy if AMD actually deliver what they promised?

Anyway, if these Ryzen is a success and intel will step up. Consumers will get alot of benefits

Everybody's gonna be happy if AMD delivers. But can you say they'll deliver based on marketing presentations? It's looking good so far (when AMD didn't deliver, they haven't leaked anything before the actual release), but let's wait for the real deal.

 

[R0H1T]

FYI, another site (AT) they did some CSI-ish examination of the presentation, because scores were suspiciously not lining up with where they should be in that Ryzen demo and they noticed something. In the AMD Ryzen demo, the video shows that the render sample value is changed to 100 instead of the default 200, which dramatically changes the scores. So if you download the demo from AMD and just hit go, you will have the default 200 render sample value and will have a slow score. You will need to change the render sample value to 100 to get an accurate comparison, and that's assuming they also didn't change anything else.

Incredibly sneaky, and more reason to wait for real third-party unbiased benches. I'm very hopeful it turns out to be good, but stuff like this raises some major red flags especially considering AMD's history of letdowns.

Well unless AMD has somehow handicapped the 6900K system & then run the blender/x264 benches (without changing anything else?) your assumption or allegation sounds frivolous. I'm pretty sure the two configs, hardware & software, would be as similar as possible & between them the SR7 won. They haven't released their test system specs but it (the demo) does show you that Ryzen has exceeded the 6900K at a lower TDP & with similar config in a couple of benches, obviously you can't make the two exactly the same so we'll take whatever we have with a pinch of salt. Anything more would be speculation at best.

 

[cdawall]

Well unless AMD has somehow handicapped the 6900K system & then run the blender/x264 benches (without changing anything else?) your assumption or allegation sounds frivolous. I'm pretty sure the two configs, hardware & software, would be as similar as possible & between them the SR7 won. They haven't released their test system specs but it (the demo) does show you that Ryzen has exceeded the 6900K at a lower TDP & with similar config in a couple of benches, obviously you can't make the two exactly the same so we'll take whatever we have with a pinch of salt. Anything more would be speculation at best.

My honest guess is they dropped render time because no one wants to sit there and wait for a minute for both rigs to render something. It looks like both ran the same test just dropped in time?

 

[Fx]

I have been waiting for Zen before building my next gaming rig. I am really encouraged by this news that its performance will deliver. I will be buying the first iteration of Ryzen, and sell it for a better chip as they roll them out.
Good job AMD

 

[Franzen4Real]

Might want to read and know what the event was for first.

This was a Zen preview not a VEGA preview. "New Horizon begins now. Join our journey into the future with a special preview of our newest CPU"



The BF1 demo was to showcase Zen @ 4k Ultra settings reguardless of GPU. That's why they used a Titan X(P). Not to disclose VEGA. RX480 wouldnt have been an option for those settings.

I doubt AMD or Nvidia will go out of their way to showcase a unreleased product just to satisfy some forum naysayers so they can move on to the next thread and complain about something else 5 minutes later.



I'm sure we'll get some here.

So true

 

[Octavean]

And to be honest, would you buy a CPU from a company that was priced 1.100 previous month, and now suddenly only 400? Doesn´t that just show that the company asked too much initially? And you would support that?

That is certainly one way of looking at it and I don't begrudge anyone their particular viewpoint on this. However, there are more ways of looking at it including being able to buy a product at a greatly reduced price which to most people is typically seen as a good thing as is competition. We are getting ahead of ourselves though, Intel hasn't dropped any prices just yet and they may never.

No matter what happens though I'm reasonably satisfied with the hardware choices I've made. Its well known that hardware metrics / performance levels are surpassed as time goes by (efficiency too). I've enjoyed excellent hardware performance for a number of years and none of that changes because a newer faster bit of kit hit the block or will soon in 2017. If we are bing totally honest here I'm willing to stick with what I have for another year or two if not more. It is self indulgent to consider an upgrade at this point or at least it is for me.

Either way I am pleased the AMD is finally poised to match and possibly dictate price / performance levels. Everybody wins!!!

I will be considering an AMD platform for next build though and I would consider investing in the company before RYZEN launch in anticipation of their stock going up,....

 

[thesmokingman]

You're missing the bigger picture:
It will cost LESS than a i7-6900k as well.

I'm betting it will be cheaper too but that's not the point. It's too early for grandiose titles like that.

 

[cyneater]

wow all haters to AMD you can continue buying expensive intel or nvidia

Dont you guys happy if AMD actually deliver what they promised?

Anyway, if these Ryzen is a success and intel will step up. Consumers will get alot of benefits

Not haters ... just re-living the athlon XP ...

AMD's last P4 killer was the Athlon 64 since then they have been full of marketing BS...

Until someone other than AMD benchmarks the new chips

 

[bug]

Well unless AMD has somehow handicapped the 6900K system & then run the blender/x264 benches (without changing anything else?) your assumption or allegation sounds frivolous. I'm pretty sure the two configs, hardware & software, would be as similar as possible & between them the SR7 won. They haven't released their test system specs but it (the demo) does show you that Ryzen has exceeded the 6900K at a lower TDP & with similar config in a couple of benches, obviously you can't make the two exactly the same so we'll take whatever we have with a pinch of salt. Anything more would be speculation at best.

Every single leak about Zen has been a Blender benchmark. Doesn't that raise any flags?

 

[YautjaLord]

Every single leak about Zen has been a Blender benchmark. Doesn't that raise any flags?

Not entirely, but mostly yeah, Google gives mostly the slides of either a aforementioned benchmark or AMD's hardware slides when i search for this stuff & also that AM4 mobo slide looks fugly. lol But atleast it can play BF1 in 4k n can be fitted with Titan X Pascal, good right? lol jk *not sarcastic*

Don't tell me TPU staff only gonna have the samples of both any AM4/X370 mobo & SR7 @ the same time or even after CES 2017, my head about to explode already, can't cope up with hype-based awesomeness overload of yesterday's sneak preview.

 

[P4-630]

Meanwhile at Intel.....


http://iq.intel.com/artificial-intelligence-for-animal-lovers/

 

[ValenOne]

AFAIK FP16 support in games is not that new. if anything using FP16 probably going to reduce image quality. on mobile (like SoC) the reason to use FP16 is to save power and bandwidth. can you provide the link talking about the importance of FP16 in upcoming SM6?

Native 16 FP support was removed during DX10 era.

Note float16 'half' types. 16 bit FP has existed since DX9a.

Xbox Scorpio would have PS4 Pro's double rate 16 bit FP mode.

 

[bug]

Don't tell me TPU staff only gonna have the samples of both any AM4/X370 mobo & SR7 @ the same time or even after CES 2017, my head about to explode already, can't cope up with hype-based awesomeness overload of yesterday's sneak preview.

AMD themselves didn't have both Zen and Vega samples for their own show. Another raised flag.
But let's be clear, when I say "raised flag", I mean things are still uncertain, I'm not implying AMD is doing something sneaky.

 

[ValenOne]

AMD themselves didn't have both Zen and Vega samples for their own show. Another raised flag.
But let's be clear, when I say "raised flag", I mean things are still uncertain, I'm not implying AMD is doing something sneaky.

AMD's show has demo'ed both RyZEN and Vega, hence they have engineering samples.

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

AMD themselves didn't have both Zen and Vega samples for their own show. Another raised flag.
But let's be clear, when I say "raised flag", I mean things are still uncertain, I'm not implying AMD is doing something sneaky.

wtf are you on about? did you not watch the same livestream I did? what source for your "facts" there?

 

[thesmokingman]

I'm not implying AMD is doing something sneaky.

Ironically, that is exactly what yer implying.

 

[bug]

AMD's show has demo'ed both RyZEN and Vega, hence they have engineering samples.

Yeah, but when showing us how powerful Zen is, they paired it with a Titan X. Which is fine by me, but a bit puzzling.

 

[Octavean]

Yeah, but when showing us how powerful Zen is, they paired it with a Titan X. Which is fine by me, but a bit puzzling.

No there was a RYZEN + Vega segment to the demo too as evident by the following clip of the even't:

www.youtube.com/watch?v= ··· xD_xP2B0