Ryzen benchmarking and overclocking results

[Caring1]

Gigabyte website shows they have Drivers for all the new chipsets for Windows 7.

Thanks, although I was really hoping for another Asrock board.

 

[v12dock]

Interesting benches on Phoronix
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd-ryzen-cores&num=2

 

[tttony]

I have this for CPU benchmarks. Probably gonna use wPrime 1024M though.

Any feedback?

Also will add game benchmarks after I got those done

What about Fritz Chess Bench and I would love a more recent chess engine, like Stockfish

It has a internal bench, you can run like this

stockfish.exe bench 128 1 15
stockfish.exe bench 128 4 15
stockfish.exe bench 128 8 15

128 -  Is the memory size, the transposition table size
8     -  Is number of cores to use
15   -  The max search depth, the higher the more time will spent in showing the results, I think 15 it's good

At the end of the output you will see something like this:

I tested in my i5 2500K

stockfish.exe bench 128 3 15

===========================
Total time (ms) : 4884
Nodes searched  : 25273773
Nodes/second    : 5174810

 

[R0H1T]

As I posted above, it's done by The Stilt. This is Total war : War hammer.

https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/ryzen-strictly-technical.2500572/page-8#post-38775732

And it seems in Windows 7, enabling SMT improves performance, while enabling SMT hurts performance in Windows 10.


*Tries to click that Start button my Windows 10, realizes it is no longer working AGAIN* I guess this is why people call Windows 10 a 'beta OS.' The amount of bugs and stuffs sometimes astonish me....

Windows looks to be in perpetual beta, certainly after win7 was relegated to extended support. I wonder if the shock of win10 phones or windows on mobiles failing, as spectacularly as they did forced MS to make the desktop (users) their new guinea pigs.

 

[HD64G]

It's been LN2 benched to 5.8 now. Has a new cinebench world record. Beats the i7 6950 and the Ryzen (1800x) had a slower frequency...

https://wccftech.com/ryzen-7-1800x-overclocked-58ghz-ln2/amp/

And this is the proff of its arch being a good one. Lower wattage than i7 8-core ones, better SMT, better IPC in integer, comparable in floating, much better price. Only thing to wait for is the better BIOS, a windows driver and some game devs to patch their games for Ryzen.

Gigabyte board BIOS: worst I've ever seen.
Memory, that AMD shipped with the CPU: doesn't work at 2666, bought two new kits this morning with same-day.
Results: so far extremely unimpressed

If I were in your shoe, I would wait for the updates (BIOS and windows driver) and test then to get a definite result.

 

[BiggieShady]

CPUZ bench would be good

Is it? Not sure myself

it would be good to see where they sit in comparison to those posted here.

Looking at the results in the thread, single threaded score for ryzen@4.125 match kaby@4.8 ... it surely is not the indicator of a real world performance, maybe the whole bench code fits in ryzen's bigger L2 cache?

 

[BarbaricSoul]

I have this for CPU benchmarks. Probably gonna use wPrime 1024M though.

Any feedback?

Also will add game benchmarks after I got those done

Is there anyway you can run WCG as a benchmark? Maybe a 24 hour crunch run and post results? Crunching is the main reason I'm considering upgrading to Ryzen. I will be waiting until the BIOs are more sorted out.

 

[Aenra]

while I am back in school

Not sure what this entails in terms of age (nowadays people get back at any age), but if statistically speaking it means what i think it means, my respect.
You express yourself quite well for your age and show a maturity to match. Had you pegged as much older.

As to the wattage, yeah, it's why i asked, lol
I don't understand AMD sometimes. Why lie? Why, when they will find out a few days later and call you out on it? They overdid it with the PR, too aggressive i tend to think and we can already see the blowback. I honestly thought they'd have learned after previous similar events.

The chip is perfect far as i'm concerned. Minimum performance difference, unfelt for the majority of us, and at half the price. It sells itself dammit, so why exaggerate.
(likewise with the gaming performance; like someone else in this forum said, don't blame the game devs, their games were out before Ryzen was out. Just say we're working with them, it's new tech, blah blah, and call it a day. This hurts them, basic 101 here..)

Continuing from my comment regarding Windows 7 vs Windows 10 performance

Read in a different site that the major culprit is the way their SMT functions, namely in terms of integer and floating points division between the threads. Ryzens need one core=two threads doing integers, a second core=two different threads doing floats.
(Win 10 cannot distinguish between two threads and two cores, sees two threads as two different cores; ergo it can occasionally "ask" said same Ryzen core [thinking it's two different ones] to do both the integer and the floating, hence the performance drop).
If, if, that is the case, then no offense, but while i have many complaints about Microsoft, this wouldn't be one of them.

Edit: And it looks like it is, as AMD itself has suggested disabling SMT for now, giving the above some credence.

As a manufacturer, you know in advance what the OS does and does not. Either you accommodate (like the "other guys" did with their multi-threading), or you get in touch and hope for some changes on the OS developers' part. The blaming game played here is uncalled for.

 

[BarbaricSoul]

what's wrong with that?

Yeah, what's wrong with running a $5500 monster system (according to PC Partpicker) on an outdated $135 TN monitor? If you don't know, you're doing it wrong.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ymCvYr

 

[FlanK3r]

Its here someone with Ryzen+Windows 7?

 

[mroofie]

you been back for 21 hours now, you done yet??????


P.S.- not rushing you, but your reviews are the ones I trust the most.

this ^
The wait is killing me

Continuing from my comment regarding Windows 7 vs Windows 10 performance, there is indeed huge performance difference in gaming for Ryzen. From The Stilt in Anandtech forum.

https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/ryzen-strictly-technical.2500572/page-8#post-38775732

Very noticeable increase in min framerate. I really wish AMD delayed the release of the chips and let Microsoft to actually release the Windows 10 patch before launching.

Amd should have just delayed the launch.
So many problems ranging from the different hardware issues (cpu, mobo etc.) to software issues
Their Zen is taking a unnecessary hit now than a delayed launch would have done

Its here someone with Ryzen+Windows 7?

?

Memory is here, wish me luck

Any possible date for review ? :whistle:

So with a simple answer, can anyone tell me ....have these chips lived up to the hype? Are they truly "Intel killers"? Or is it still too early to know?

very early..

so many issues its not even funny

 

[jboydgolfer]

So with a simple answer, can anyone tell me ....have these chips lived up to the hype? Are they truly "Intel killers"? Or is it still too early to know?

 

[MetalRacer]

Its here someone with Ryzen+Windows 7?

The stilt claims to be running it.

https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/ryzen-strictly-technical.2500572/page-4

 

[alucasa]

So with a simple answer, can anyone tell me ....have these chips lived up to the hype? Are they truly "Intel killers"? Or is it still too early to know?

I think what I typed days ago is still valid. I need to add that mobo selection is pitiful and the whole platform is buggy.

In short, wait.

From what I see from official reviews -

1. Performance is on par with leaks.
2. So so for gaming.
3. Meh OCer.
4. Very good productivity performance ( Results other than gaming)

Finally, price per performance is 2x better than Intel as it stands.

 

[Folterknecht]

@cdawall and / or @W1zzard

Any chance some underclocking can be included as well?

Wondering if it's worth it to underclock the CPU a bit without losing too much performance!

Undervolting is possible

 

[W1zzard]

I'm still setting up benchmarks, then reinstall Windows, then bench everything new on all comparison systems + Ryzen.

At the same time working on VGA Bench rig, so I can get GTX 1080 Ti review done asap.

Maybe Wednesday for Ryzen

 

[jboydgolfer]

I really look forward to (once again) having a competitive lineup to choose from ,when shopping in the processor market... fingers crossed

 

[Fabiano]

@cdawall and / or @W1zzard

Any chance some underclocking can be included as well?

Wondering if it's worth it to underclock the CPU a bit without losing too much performance!

Underclocking + undervoltaging seems to be just just amazing.

The Stilt is doing some really good research on that subject.

Ryzen: Strictly technical

Cinebench 15 - 30W - 850 points | 35W - 1000 Points


Also, voltage vs frequency graph

 

[cdawall]

Not sure what this entails in terms of age (nowadays people get back at any age), but if statistically speaking it means what i think it means, my respect.
You express yourself quite well for your age and show a maturity to match. Had you pegged as much older.

About to be 26. Spent 6 years in the military which is probably why I sound older than most people expect it forces you to grow up quickly. Having two children at a younger age did the same. Lol.

As for the amd or machine... Unluckily this is the same price machine I can remember for as far back as phenom 1 at least they didn't do a "real core" smear campaign with a worse performing product.

 

[Robert-The-Rambler]

Wait for the lower core count products. This isn't a top clocked item, the efficiency they provide in multithreading makes them a better choice as more titles move to vulkan/DX12 regardless of model purchased and they are offering such a huge jump over the FX series it isn't even funny. Saying these offer a lackluster gaming performance means quite simply that X99 offers NO gaming performance at all since at stock I do not believe there is a single 2011v3 or v4 CPU that offers better performance in most games. Certainly the 6900K and 6950X are trash in this situation as well with their lower clockspeed and worse performing multithreaded IPC.

This isn't a 5ghz quad core product. This is a slower running 8 core model. If all you want to do is game than wait for AMD to drop the quad and six core parts and see how they clock. As it stands now we are looking at a 5-20FPS difference at 1080P not exactly a deal breaker for most going from 140FPS to 120FPS. There are also games when that is reversed and AMD offers MORE performance, yet those games aren't mentioned.

It just drives me bonkers that people keep citing frames per second you will never see at any resolution on 60hz displays like 4k TVs I currently use. It just doesn't matter whether you have 80 or 100 or 200 or whatever it may be. Who cares if it doesn't benchmark as well when the GPU can hit high FPS beyond refresh rate? It just doesn't matter to the overall experience. This isn't a processor released in a vacuum. It is an entire platform and the question to a consumer is whether it is a worthy upgrade from their already existing platform at a reasonable price. To compare a multimedia CPU like the current 16 thread Ryzen chips to a gaming-centric I7 7700k is ridiculous. To say a chip marketing for games is better at games, especially when overclocked, albeit marginally and not really in real world usage is like saying the sky is blue. The full story of Ryzen hasn't been told yet and I wish people would reserve judgement and any otherwise idiotic misinformed opinions.

What's really funny is I saw multiple scores where it wins at 1440+ lolz. I haven't played at 1080 in... 2 years?

The future and the now is 4K and if a chip can do over 60 FPS at 1080p it can also do that at 4K. The GPU is the real heart of a gaming platform. The CPU merely has to be enough......

 

[Folterknecht]

And what drives me bonkers are morons who claim that FPS at lower res don't matter when it comes to CPUs. Go and buy Bulldozer dimwit.

When spending 500-1000€ on a platform I 'd like to have an idea how it performs in 2-4 years when games are more demanding in regards to CPU or have to keep up with newer GPUs.

 

[Ravenas]

It just drives me bonkers that people keep citing frames per second you will never see at any resolution on 60hz displays like 4k TVs I currently use. It just doesn't matter whether you have 80 or 100 or 200 or whatever it may be. Who cares if it doesn't benchmark as well when the GPU can hit high FPS beyond refresh rate? It just doesn't matter to the overall experience. This isn't a processor released in a vacuum. It is an entire platform and the question to a consumer is whether it is a worthy upgrade from their already existing platform at a reasonable price. To compare a multimedia CPU like the current 16 thread Ryzen chips to a gaming-centric I7 7700k is ridiculous. To say a chip marketing for games is better at games, especially when overclocked, albeit marginally and not really in real world usage is like saying the sky is blue. The full story of Ryzen hasn't been told yet and I wish people would reserve judgement and any otherwise idiotic misinformed opinions.

Every interview I have read, AMD is comparing the Ryzen 1800k to the 6900K.

 

[cdawall]

And what drives me bonkers are morons who claim that FPS at lower res don't matter when it comes to CPUs. Go and buy Bulldozer dimwit.

When spending 500-1000€ on a platform I 'd like to have an idea how it performs in 2-4 years when games are more demanding in regards to CPU or have to keep up with newer GPUs.

Thing is as we push into the future more and more, games are getting to be better threaded. So if your argument is in 2-4 years, it will probably be a mute point. Remember AMD just signed a deal to optimize Bethseda games with AMD CPU/GPU's, that is a very large market. You also have the consoles running low clocked/low power AMD 8 core chips that isn't magically going to change things overnight, but if game developers want to take advantage of the performance there...well they are going to have to figure out how to multithread better.

 

[HD64G]

Just see how much RAM speed affects gaming performance and general perfornance in Ryzen: http://www.eteknix.com/memory-speed-large-impact-ryzen-performance/

About windows 7 performance vs windows 10: https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/ryzen-strictly-technical.2500572/page-4#post-38773158

 

[Folterknecht]

Thing is as we push into the future more and more, games are getting to be better threaded. So if your argument is in 2-4 years, it will probably be a mute point. Remember AMD just signed a deal to optimize Bethseda games with AMD CPU/GPU's, that is a very large market. You also have the consoles running low clocked/low power AMD 8 core chips that isn't magically going to change things overnight, but if game developers want to take advantage of the performance there...well they are going to have to figure out how to multithread better.

That is all true, though the process (moving to multithreaded games) is really slow. Admittedly in the last ~2 years it developed some momentum, but I 'm probably right giving it an other 4-5 years before we are finally there.