Ryzen benchmarking and overclocking results

[Lt_JWS]

MSI still hasn't released a BIOS update. i can't run memory faster than 2400MHz. i'm so pissed off that i'm actually considering tearing down my entire loop and returning my motherboard.

I feel your pain, my ASrock board won't run anything but 2130mhz.

 

[the54thvoid]

I think I can get the timings lower I have removed my care and concern for not killing the CPU/RAM/MOBO

I have the crosshair on the 0702 BIOS. How easy is it to update the BIOS with AMD? On my intel platform I could do it while the computer was off, is it the same here? Can it be done via windows?

 

[EarthDog]

Typically it's bios file on usb, find the option in the bios ton flash and viola!

I've flashed through windows beflre, but, for no real reason, prefer not to.

 

[the54thvoid]

Typically it's bios file on usb, find the option in the bios ton flash and viola!

I've flashed through windows beflre, but, for no real reason, prefer not to.

Are you having a stroke? I only ask because normally you type with precision but the past day I've noticed there is a slight lack of grammatical perfection to your posts. Or are you using mobile?

And I' not being funny - it's sudden small changes in behaviour that can indicate health issues or more than likely, being on mobile (or drunk).

And yeah, I know about the USB flash but how reliable is it?

 

[Super XP]

Faster Ram on Ryzen gives great Gaming Performance numbers. Infinity Fabric is the key to hidden performance in Ryzen IMO.

 

[cdawall]

I have the crosshair on the 0702 BIOS. How easy is it to update the BIOS with AMD? On my intel platform I could do it while the computer was off, is it the same here? Can it be done via windows?

I use ezflash in the bios

 

[Aenra]

@cdawall those RAM speeds are nice, well done!

Can you post here or PM me your full voltage/clock settings? Everything BIOS related. I know what i'm asking for, so no offense taken if you can't be bothered, but i'd really appreciate it.

(took me weeks of reading to stabilize this one and end of the day? Most helpful thing ever was successful OC settings from other people. They won't be your settings, but they do show you the way)

 

[the54thvoid]

I use ezflash in the bios

Asus UK website only has 0902 BIOS version - where is the 1002 version?

 

[Super XP]

Asus UK website only has 0902 BIOS version - where is the 1002 version?

Check ASUS's global website. That's where I download my stuff from.

 

[cdawall]

Asus UK website only has 0902 BIOS version - where is the 1002 version?

I grabbed it off of the asus forums

@cdawall those RAM speeds are nice, well done!

Can you post here or PM me your full voltage/clock settings? Everything BIOS related. I know what i'm asking for, so no offense taken if you can't be bothered, but i'd really appreciate it.

(took me weeks of reading to stabilize this one and end of the day? Most helpful thing ever was successful OC settings from other people. They won't be your settings, but they do show you the way)

I will drop them on the page.

 

[cadaveca]

Judging by what i've seen thus far, i wonder what Ryzen gains for games (in percent) with CPU @ stock but high speed RAM (think 3600+) VS overclock CPU (4.0 GHz or 4.1 GHz) with ... say ... 2666 (2400??) MHz RAM.

Many boards only offer 3200 MHz as max memory divider, so such an investigation is nigh on impossible until AMD releases the AGESA they said would be coming in May (which is also why I tend to encourage people to buy the 3200 MHz C14 G.SKill sticks right now). If you keep this idea, I'll check it out and post some results then, if you could give me a friendly reminder.

 

[Tatty_Two]

Is it 12th April for Ryzen 5?

 

[cdawall]

These aren't necessarily the exact settings I ran for the runs above, but the voltages are the same as what I have kept for all of the runs. I do not recommend using that much SOC voltage.

 

[cadaveca]

woah, no secondary timings even? That hurts!

Is it 12th April for Ryzen 5?

I do believe so. You can sign up here and they let you know when it happens:

http://www.amd.com/en/ryzen

1600X is looking mighty interesting.

 

[Aenra]

@cdawall thank you so much man, much appreciated

Is there a reason you have SOC on override? Rather than a straight manual value?
(i originally typed male.. freudian slip? lol)

And a second question. LLC in Ryzens; is it for vcore or overall input?
edit: It looks like it's for vcore specifically huh? I see a different LLC setting for SOC. Interesting.

 

[cdawall]

@cdawall thank you so much man, much appreciated

Is there a reason you have SOC on override? Rather than a straight manual value?
(i originally typed male.. freudian slip? lol)

And a second question. LLC in Ryzens; is it for vcore or overall input?
edit: It looks like it's for vcore specifically huh? I see a different LLC setting for SOC. Interesting.

Because I am lazy and just clicked the down until I could type in a value and as you said LLC is per item. The ram has it's own LLC as well.

 

[Aenra]

You're.... LAZY?
How can you be so lax with a 1.48 vcore, lol? Are you insane?

(good for you though, healthier in the long run i imagine)

 

[HTC]

Many boards only offer 3200 MHz as max memory divider, so such an investigation is nigh on impossible until AMD releases the AGESA they said would be coming in May (which is also why I tend to encourage people to buy the 3200 MHz C14 G.SKill sticks right now). If you keep this idea, I'll check it out and post some results then, if you could give me a friendly reminder.

If 3600+ MHz RAM is unavailable (due to the BIOS issues and / or microcode), how about dropping the lower RAM speed to ... say ... 2133 MHz and do 3200MHz as the highest?

Same general idea: compare gains from stock CPU with faster RAM VS from OCed CPU with RAM @ lower speeds.

 

[cdawall]

You're.... LAZY?
How can you be so lax with a 1.48 vcore, lol? Are you insane?

(good for you though, healthier in the long run i imagine)

That is what it took to be stable. The SOC is only that high because of the ram clocks

 

[Aenra]

Probably a bad joke; wasn't insinuating you're doing anything wrong

 

[cdawall]

Probably a bad joke; wasn't insinuating you're doing anything wrong

Oh you are fine lol ask anyone on here I couldn't care less what happens to these chips as far as voltage degradation goes, I have always been that way.

 

[phanbuey]

Oh you are fine lol ask anyone on here I couldn't care less what happens to these chips as far as voltage degradation goes, I have always been that way.

wait so if you back off the SOC the system goes unstable?

Im hitting a hard wall at 40.50 @ 1.45 it wont do 41 even at 1.52 and i am thinking that another component is pooping out ... i only have .975 SOC voltage at 3200 ram settings.

 

[cdawall]

wait so if you back off the SOC the system goes unstable?

Im hitting a hard wall at 40.50 @ 1.45 it wont do 41 even at 1.52 and i am thinking that another component is pooping out ... i only have .975 SOC voltage at 3200 ram settings.

I can run 3200CL14 at 1.0v SOC just fine, but to get 36xxCL14 it seems to drink SOC.

 

[Folterknecht]

I can run 3200CL14 at 1.0v SOC just fine, but to get 36xxCL14 it seems to drink SOC.

And switching from CL14 to CL15 - does that make a difference for voltage (SOC) at 3600 MHz?

 

[cdawall]

And switching from CL14 to CL15 - does that make a difference for voltage (SOC) at 3600 MHz?

Never really tested it. I believe it was all the same when I started cranking it down.