Dream on about both, Volta and GDDR6.
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Hate to say it, but I don't think mining will ever "peter out". For sure there will be periods of boom and bust, but mining is here to stay buddy.
And if you think about it, it was only a matter of time before some program found a way to make money off of the massive computational power modern GPU's have.
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Want Vega?
You're all screwed. It's allegedly the God of mining.
https://videocardz.com/71591/rumor-amd-radeon-rx-vega-64-to-be-great-for-mining
I'm convinced. There are too many posters in this thread being paid specifically to attack other people and hijack the discussion.
As for me the unverified results are nice considering AMD hasnt been in such a position in a long time. I think Nvidia will up its game with Volta, which might mean a delayed release until they prove they retake top daug slot without much fanfare.
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Cooling | Noctua NH-U14S ||| Be Quiet Pure Rock |
Memory | Crucial 2 x 16 GB 3200 MHz ||| Corsair 8 x 8 GB 1333 MHz |
Video Card(s) | MSI GTX 1060 3GB ||| MSI GTX 680 4GB |
Storage | Samsung 970 PRO 512 GB + 1 TB ||| Intel 545s 512 GB + 256 GB |
Display(s) | Asus ROG Swift PG278QR 27" ||| Eizo EV2416W 24" |
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Mouse | Razer Abyssus |
Keyboard | CM Storm QuickFire XT |
Software | Ubuntu |
Then please focus on the facts instead of personal attacks.You are so wrong , but just as always you're going to ignore facts and carry on.- HBC is relevant for pure compute workloads, but not for gaming.
GV102 and GV104 are already taped out, and the first test batch will arrive soon. So unless Nvidia run into problems like on Fermi, they can be released anywhere from 5-10 months from today.Volta is professional only at the moment, and I don't expect that to change till MAYBE the end of 2018. In fact I am pretty sure Nvidia confirmed the next series is another maxwell...cough.... Pascal refresh (But likely with more GDDR5X/6. It will be stronger, but lack all of these features.
The only exception I can think of is possibly a cut-down Volta sold as a Titan card for $1500 - $2000.
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Storage | 2TB WD SN850X (boot), 4TB Crucial P3 (data) |
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Case | Enthoo Pro II Server Edition (Closed Panel) + 6 fans |
Power Supply | Fractal Design Ion+ 2 Platinum 760W |
Mouse | Logitech G602 |
Keyboard | Razer Pro Type Ultra |
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No surprise here.
$400, and it slightly loses to the 1080 while having FAR better long-term technology. This will sell well, and Vega64 should be at least 15% stronger than this!
System Name | Good enough |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen R9 7900 - Alphacool Eisblock XPX Aurora Edge |
Motherboard | ASRock B650 Pro RS |
Cooling | 2x 360mm NexXxoS ST30 X-Flow, 1x 360mm NexXxoS ST30, 1x 240mm NexXxoS ST30 |
Memory | 32GB - FURY Beast RGB 5600 Mhz |
Video Card(s) | Sapphire RX 7900 XT - Alphacool Eisblock Aurora |
Storage | 1x Kingston KC3000 1TB 1x Kingston A2000 1TB, 1x Samsung 850 EVO 250GB , 1x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB |
Display(s) | LG UltraGear 32GN650-B + 4K Samsung TV |
Case | Phanteks NV7 |
Power Supply | GPS-750C |
Then please focus on the facts instead of personal attacks.
A predictive cache algorithm can only detect linear access patterns, just like a prefetcher does in a CPU. But it can't predict accesses when there are no patterns, because there are no way to predict random accesses. That's why HBC would work fine for linear traversal of a huge datasets, but it wouldn't work for game rendering, where the access patterns vary by game state, camera position, etc.
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Motherboard | Asus P8Z68-V PRO/Gen 3 |
Cooling | ZeroTherm FZ120 |
Memory | G.Skill Ripjaws 4x4GB DDR3 |
Video Card(s) | MSI GTX 1060 6G Gaming X |
Storage | Samsung 830 Pro 256GB + WD Caviar Blue 1TB |
Display(s) | Samsung PX2370 + Acer AL1717 |
Case | Antec 1200 v1 |
Audio Device(s) | aune x1s |
Power Supply | Enermax Modu87+ 800W |
Mouse | Logitech G403 |
Keyboard | Qpad MK80 |
I literally posted a presentation from AMD themselves where they showcased HBC in action in a game. Yet you insist it isn't possible. Right , AMD knows nothing about it and you do. You know , just because you bring up all that technical stuff that hasn't got much to do with the subject it doesn't really help you prove that you know what you are talking about.
Facts ? All you do is ignore them mate. Just like you did in out previous discussion.
We got you bro , AMD hasn't got a clue about what they're doing and you do.
"Long-term technology" what is this BS you're spouting? There's no such thing as future-proofing when it comes to GPU technology - a GPU is relevant for a year, year-and-a-half, maybe even 2 years and then it's just too slow for gaming.
System Name | Good enough |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen R9 7900 - Alphacool Eisblock XPX Aurora Edge |
Motherboard | ASRock B650 Pro RS |
Cooling | 2x 360mm NexXxoS ST30 X-Flow, 1x 360mm NexXxoS ST30, 1x 240mm NexXxoS ST30 |
Memory | 32GB - FURY Beast RGB 5600 Mhz |
Video Card(s) | Sapphire RX 7900 XT - Alphacool Eisblock Aurora |
Storage | 1x Kingston KC3000 1TB 1x Kingston A2000 1TB, 1x Samsung 850 EVO 250GB , 1x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB |
Display(s) | LG UltraGear 32GN650-B + 4K Samsung TV |
Case | Phanteks NV7 |
Power Supply | GPS-750C |
So basically we can't trust reviews and reviewers but we SHOULD trust the company itself? I mean how can you not be trolling?
Processor | i7 2600K |
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Motherboard | Asus P8Z68-V PRO/Gen 3 |
Cooling | ZeroTherm FZ120 |
Memory | G.Skill Ripjaws 4x4GB DDR3 |
Video Card(s) | MSI GTX 1060 6G Gaming X |
Storage | Samsung 830 Pro 256GB + WD Caviar Blue 1TB |
Display(s) | Samsung PX2370 + Acer AL1717 |
Case | Antec 1200 v1 |
Audio Device(s) | aune x1s |
Power Supply | Enermax Modu87+ 800W |
Mouse | Logitech G403 |
Keyboard | Qpad MK80 |
Of course it looks like trolling when you ain't got a clue about how things work and are under the impression you know better that a team of engineers.
Right, wasted enough time with you both , you are both on ignore.
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Motherboard | MSI MAG Mortar B650 (wifi) |
Cooling | be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 |
Memory | 32GB Kingston Fury |
Video Card(s) | Gainward RTX4070ti |
Storage | Seagate FireCuda 530 M.2 1TB / Samsumg 960 Pro M.2 512Gb |
Display(s) | LG 32" 165Hz 1440p GSYNC |
Case | Asus Prime AP201 |
Audio Device(s) | On Board |
Power Supply | be quiet! Pure POwer M12 850w Gold (ATX3.0) |
Software | W10 |
Processor | AMD Ryzen 7 3700X |
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Motherboard | MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK |
Cooling | AMD Wraith Prism |
Memory | Team Group Dark Pro 8Pack Edition 3600Mhz CL16 |
Video Card(s) | NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 FE |
Storage | Kingston A2000 1TB + Seagate HDD workhorse |
Display(s) | Samsung 50" QN94A Neo QLED |
Case | Antec 1200 |
Power Supply | Seasonic Focus GX-850 |
Mouse | Razer Deathadder Chroma |
Keyboard | Logitech UltraX |
Software | Windows 11 |
I thought HBC stood for "Holy Batman, Catwoman!"
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Processor | 6700k |
Motherboard | sabertooth s |
Cooling | raystorm block<black ice stealth 240 rad<ek dcc 18w 140 xres |
Memory | 32gb ripjaw v |
Video Card(s) | 290x gamer<ntzx g10<antec 920 |
Storage | 950 pro 250gb boot 850 evo pr0n |
Display(s) | QX2710LED@110hz lg 27ud68p |
Case | 540 Air |
Audio Device(s) | nope |
Power Supply | 750w superflower |
Mouse | g502 |
Keyboard | shine 3 with grey, black and red caps |
Software | win 10 |
Benchmark Scores | http://hwbot.org/user/marsey99/ |
Is that not worrying? All Nvidia have to do is refresh maxwell...cough Pascal... to stay quite far ahead at minimal cost. All AMD are doing with these compute heavy consumer cards is fueling the mining craze. There is no disputing AMD's consumer compute ability but:
1) It's still not enough to be the fastest gaming GPU and ;
2) It keeps the profit margins very low
Anyway, if you see my post further up, Vega 64 is a mining monster. So it's going to disappear fast on one of those jumbo jets. Not good news at all for gamers.
System Name | Bo-minator (my name is bo) |
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Processor | AMD 3900X |
Motherboard | Gigabyte X570 AORUS MASTER |
Cooling | Noctua NH-D15 |
Memory | G-SkiLL 2x8GB RAM 3600Mhz (CL16-16-16-16-36) |
Video Card(s) | ASUS STRIX 1080Ti OC |
Storage | Samsung EVO 850 1TB |
Display(s) | ACER XB271HU + DELL 2717D |
Case | Fractal Design Define R4 |
Audio Device(s) | ASUS Xonar Essence STX |
Power Supply | Antec HCP 1000W |
Mouse | G403 |
Keyboard | CM STORM Quick Fire Rapid |
Software | Windows 10 64-bit Pro |
Benchmark Scores | XX |
I couldn't explain it right but I see tearing at 75fps in all the games I tested. Capping it at 74fps does the trick. Though I'm not sure about the explanation behind it.
Processor | Intel Core i7 8700K |
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Motherboard | ROG STRIX Z370-G GAMING AC |
Cooling | Corsair H115i Pro RGB |
Memory | G.Skill Trident Z RGB 16GB DDR4 3200Mhz |
Video Card(s) | Gigabyte GTX 1070 G1 |
Storage | Samsung 970 Evo 500GB |
Display(s) | Dell S2417DG 165Hz |
Case | NZXT H400i |
Power Supply | Corsair AX760 |
Mouse | Razer Deathadder Chroma |
Keyboard | Cooler Master - Masterkeys Pro L RGB |
Software | Windows 10 Pro 64Bit |
Same with gsync as far as I understand.
System Name | Dumbass |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen 7800X3D |
Motherboard | ASUS TUF gaming B650 |
Cooling | Artic Liquid Freezer 2 - 420mm |
Memory | G.Skill Sniper 32gb DDR5 6000 |
Video Card(s) | GreenTeam 4070 ti super 16gb |
Storage | Samsung EVO 500gb & 1Tb, 2tb HDD, 500gb WD Black |
Display(s) | 1x Nixeus NX_EDG27, 2x Dell S2440L (16:9) |
Case | Phanteks Enthoo Primo w/8 140mm SP Fans |
Audio Device(s) | onboard (realtek?) - SPKRS:Logitech Z623 200w 2.1 |
Power Supply | Corsair HX1000i |
Mouse | Steeseries Esports Wireless |
Keyboard | Corsair K100 |
Software | windows 10 H |
Benchmark Scores | https://i.imgur.com/aoz3vWY.jpg?2 |
Thanks for making my point.I guess you need to go see a shrink ASAP. Next you're gonna say that Jensen Huang frequents these forums and slanders AMD in his spare time.
I still hope you're were joking.
Is that not worrying? All Nvidia have to do is refresh maxwell...cough Pascal... to stay quite far ahead at minimal cost. All AMD are doing with these compute heavy consumer cards is fueling the mining craze. There is no disputing AMD's consumer compute ability but:
1) It's still not enough to be the fastest gaming GPU and ;
2) It keeps the profit margins very low
Anyway, if you see my post further up, Vega 64 is a mining monster. So it's going to disappear fast on one of those jumbo jets. Not good news at all for gamers.
Processor | AMD Ryzen 9 5900X ||| Intel Core i7-3930K |
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Motherboard | ASUS ProArt B550-CREATOR ||| Asus P9X79 WS |
Cooling | Noctua NH-U14S ||| Be Quiet Pure Rock |
Memory | Crucial 2 x 16 GB 3200 MHz ||| Corsair 8 x 8 GB 1333 MHz |
Video Card(s) | MSI GTX 1060 3GB ||| MSI GTX 680 4GB |
Storage | Samsung 970 PRO 512 GB + 1 TB ||| Intel 545s 512 GB + 256 GB |
Display(s) | Asus ROG Swift PG278QR 27" ||| Eizo EV2416W 24" |
Case | Fractal Design Define 7 XL x 2 |
Audio Device(s) | Cambridge Audio DacMagic Plus |
Power Supply | Seasonic Focus PX-850 x 2 |
Mouse | Razer Abyssus |
Keyboard | CM Storm QuickFire XT |
Software | Ubuntu |
Well, for starters we hear this every single time. Buy a underperforming AMD card now, and it will be better in the future, but it never pans out. The primary reason is that your expectations are too inflated. Secondly, AMD will shift their focus to Navi in a few months.Why are you so sure Vega won't pan out? It will be mediocre now, but it has FP16/HBC/RPM/etc. Consider that Far Cry 5 and many other games will be written in FP16 in order to support game consoles and AMD cards (That makes Vega64 a 27 TFLOP card in that gamer lol). Vega is the foundation of their future, and designed when AMD had no money left for the Radeon department. Thus even more-so than GCN did, this arch will start out slow for the time but age VERY well.
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Motherboard | Asus H670 TUF |
Cooling | Arctic Freezer 34 |
Memory | 2x16GB DDR4 3600 G.Skill Ripjaws V |
Video Card(s) | EVGA GTX 1060 SC |
Storage | 500GB Samsung 970 EVO, 500GB Samsung 850 EVO, 1TB Crucial MX300 and 2TB Crucial MX500 |
Display(s) | Dell U3219Q + HP ZR24w |
Case | Raijintek Thetis |
Audio Device(s) | Audioquest Dragonfly Red :D |
Power Supply | Seasonic 620W M12 |
Mouse | Logitech G502 Proteus Core |
Keyboard | G.Skill KM780R |
Software | Arch Linux + Win10 |
Out of curiosity, what would qualify as bad in your opinion?I never said it was good, but I wouldn't say this is "bad".
Nvidia made an excellent gaming arch with Maxwell (But it's worthless for most other things besides also mining lol). Nvidia can afford to have 2 architectures at the same time, and AMD cannot. However AMD is starting to finally make money again, and so this will change by 2019.
Why are you so sure Vega won't pan out? It will be mediocre now, but it has FP16/HBC/RPM/etc. Consider that Far Cry 5 and many other games will be written in FP16 in order to support game consoles and AMD cards (That makes Vega64 a 27 TFLOP card in that gamer lol). Vega is the foundation of their future, and designed when AMD had no money left for the Radeon department. Thus even more-so than GCN did, this arch will start out slow for the time but age VERY well.
Processor | AMD Ryzen 7 3700X |
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Motherboard | MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK |
Cooling | AMD Wraith Prism |
Memory | Team Group Dark Pro 8Pack Edition 3600Mhz CL16 |
Video Card(s) | NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 FE |
Storage | Kingston A2000 1TB + Seagate HDD workhorse |
Display(s) | Samsung 50" QN94A Neo QLED |
Case | Antec 1200 |
Power Supply | Seasonic Focus GX-850 |
Mouse | Razer Deathadder Chroma |
Keyboard | Logitech UltraX |
Software | Windows 11 |
"Long-term technology" what is this BS you're spouting? There's no such thing as future-proofing when it comes to GPU technology - a GPU is relevant for a year, year-and-a-half, maybe even 2 years and then it's just too slow for gaming.
System Name | PeaceMaker |
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Processor | Intel Core i7-920 |
Motherboard | Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R (rev. 2.0) |
Cooling | Coolermaster Hyper N520 |
Memory | Kingston 2x4GB 1333MHz DDR3 Non-ECC CL7 |
Video Card(s) | XFX HD 7870 Double Dissipation Edition |
Storage | Kingston HyperX 3K 480GB SSD |
Case | open air |
Audio Device(s) | non |
Power Supply | CORSAIR RM650X 650W 80 PLUS GOLD |
Mouse | Razer DeathAdder Chroma |
Processor | Intel i7-10700k |
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Motherboard | Gigabyte Aurorus Ultra z490 |
Cooling | Corsair H100i RGB |
Memory | 32GB (4x8GB) Corsair Vengeance DDR4-3200MHz |
Video Card(s) | MSI Gaming Trio X 3070 LHR |
Display(s) | ASUS MG278Q / AOC G2590FX |
Case | Corsair X4000 iCue |
Audio Device(s) | Onboard |
Power Supply | Corsair RM650x 650W Fully Modular |
Software | Windows 10 |
System Name | Black MC in Tokyo |
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Processor | Ryzen 5 7600 |
Motherboard | MSI X670E Gaming Plus Wifi |
Cooling | Be Quiet! Pure Rock 2 |
Memory | 2 x 16GB Corsair Vengeance @ 6000Mhz |
Video Card(s) | XFX 6950XT Speedster MERC 319 |
Storage | Kingston KC3000 1TB | WD Black SN750 2TB |WD Blue 1TB x 2 | Toshiba P300 2TB | Seagate Expansion 8TB |
Display(s) | Samsung U32J590U 4K + BenQ GL2450HT 1080p |
Case | Fractal Design Define R4 |
Audio Device(s) | Plantronics 5220, Nektar SE61 keyboard |
Power Supply | Corsair RM850x v3 |
Mouse | Logitech G602 |
Keyboard | Dell SK3205 |
Software | Windows 10 Pro |
Benchmark Scores | Rimworld 4K ready! |
nah that bubble is bursting as we speak. by the time they are on the shelves most miners will be dumping their older, low power, cards and using those funds to buy vega and 4k screens for gaming
Then I have no idea what you checked. First is Hardware Canuks as a written review, YT videos like HW Unboxed (), getting 1% in favor of the 1060 and first it was a 12% difference. Yeah, it consumes 30-40W more at default (which is said by HW Unboxed that shouldn't be a deal breaker), but actually, JayzTwoCents' XFX 480 video shows that under stress test, that RX480 eats about 95 to 120W. And with Crimson, AB etc. you can control the more hungry RX480s like the Sapphire or MSI. Also, ones like MSI got later BIOS updates that got their power consumption lower.