NVIDIA to End Support for 32-bit Operating Systems After R390 Drivers

btarunr · Dec 22, 2017

NVIDIA announced that it is ending driver support for 32-bit operating systems after its R390-series drivers. Following its GeForce 390.xx release, NVIDIA will not support 32-bit versions of Windows 10, Windows 7, Windows 8/8.1, Linux, or FreeBSD for any of its GPU architectures. NVIDIA will, however, offer support for critical driver security fixes for 32-bit operating systems until January 2019. This means the company will release hotfixes addressing specific critical security vulnerabilities in the drivers, as and when they're found, but such hotfixes won't include new features or optimizations that are part of the main driver trunk for 64-bit operating systems.

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R00kie · Dec 22, 2017

Good, just let it die already.

eddman · Dec 22, 2017

~~How come TPU gets so many news information wrong. The support will be dropped AFTER R390.~~

EDIT: Now fixed.

qubit · Dec 22, 2017

I'm sure someone will complain, lol. But seriously, anyone rocking a 32-bit OS with 2GB RAM nowadays seriously needs an upgrade anyway.

R-T-B · Dec 22, 2017

I agree. If you're gaming with a modern GPU on a 32-bit system, you probably want to take a good long look at where your build went wrong...

eddman said:
How come TPU gets so many news information wrong. The support will be dropped AFTER R390.

They actually have the news correct in the article. I think it's a title typo.

newtekie1 · Dec 22, 2017

Meh. Not a big deal. Didn't AMD drop 32-bit support for all the cards R9 300 and newer a while ago?

eddman said:
How come TPU gets so many news information wrong. The support will be dropped AFTER R390.

That is exactly what the article and title said. Not sure what your issue is?

64K · Dec 22, 2017

It amazes me that even MS put out a 32 bit Windows 10 option. I guess that was just because they were hell-bent on getting everyone possible onto Win 10 at that point.

londiste · Dec 22, 2017

64K said:
It amazes me that even MS put out a 32 bit Windows 10 option. I guess that was just because they were hell-bent on getting everyone possible onto Win 10 at that point.

Tablets, probably. There are 32-bit Atoms out there.

R-T-B · Dec 22, 2017

newtekie1 said:
is exactly what the article and title said. Not sure what your issue is?

Title was different earlier...

RejZoR · Dec 22, 2017

Makes sense anyway. 32bit is dead. Every laptop we sell comes with 64bit Windows already anyway. Even my HP X2 hybrid tablet/netbook came with 64bit OS despite only having 2GB RAM. I see no reason for NVIDIA to waste resources on 32bit. I'm just surprised more vendors aren't following this... The sooner 64bit becomes defacto OS type, devs will have a lot less stuff to worry about and focus on more important things.

@londiste
My tablet has Atom X5, quad core Atom and it's already 64bit ready. Any Atom sold today is 64bit ready.

Chaitanya · Dec 22, 2017

Since Win Vista I have been using a 64bit OS. Tried it with Xp but had few issues with software back in the day.

RejZoR · Dec 22, 2017

Chaitanya said:
Since Win Vista I have been using a 64bit OS. Tried it with Xp but had few issues with software back in the day.

WinXP 64bit had problems because no one really supported it properly with drivers. Vista was whole different story. I also started using 64bit with Vista.

CrAsHnBuRnXp · Dec 22, 2017

Good! Death to 32bit!

Get main stream support for 64bit then lets start transitioning to 128bit!

Vayra86 · Dec 22, 2017

Its not like your stuff will suddenly stop working... Even though it should.

BadFrog · Dec 22, 2017

CrAsHnBuRnXp said:
Good! Death to 32bit!

Get main stream support for 64bit then lets start transitioning to 128bit!

128 bit is a long ways away. 64 bit systems can go up to a theoretical limit of 16 Exa Bytes but usually limited to CPU and OS selected

eidairaman1 · Dec 22, 2017

qubit said:
I'm sure someone will complain, lol. But seriously, anyone rocking a 32-bit OS with 2GB RAM nowadays seriously needs an upgrade anyway.

If anyone needs 32Bit OS, its going to be for an A64/Phenom1/P4/PD/core 2 without 4GB of ram. Windows 7/Windows 10

birdie · Dec 22, 2017

qubit said:
I'm sure someone will complain, lol. But seriously, anyone rocking a 32-bit OS with 2GB RAM nowadays seriously needs an upgrade anyway.

There's this thing called PAE but people love to say stupid things.

Also, 32bit code can and sometimes is faster than 64bit code because instructions are shorter, data is smaller (32bit pointers vs. 64bit pointers) and thus your CPU can run a lot more code from its super fast L1/L2 cache without fetching data from the RAM.

CrAsHnBuRnXp · Dec 22, 2017

BadFrog said:
128 bit is a long ways away. 64 bit systems can go up to a theoretical limit of 16 Exa Bytes but usually limited to CPU and OS selected

It was mostly sarcasm at the point of 128 bit :laugh:

raptori · Dec 22, 2017

Good Nvidia and while you are cleaning the dust upgrade your decade old control panel , take a look at AMD .

CrAsHnBuRnXp · Dec 22, 2017

raptori said:
Good Nvidia and while you are cleaning the dust upgrade your decade old control panel , take a look at AMD .

Dont say that too loud. They'll integrate it into GFE and everyone here except for me will be bitching about it.

qubit · Dec 22, 2017

birdie said:
There's this thing called PAE but people love to say stupid things.

Also, 32bit code can and sometimes is faster than 64bit code because instructions are shorter, data is smaller (32bit pointers vs. 64bit pointers) and thus your CPU can run a lot more code from its super fast L1/L2 cache without fetching data from the RAM.

Am I saying stupid things? I know about PAE and it's a fudge that can create compatibility problems, especially with games.

birdie · Dec 22, 2017

qubit said:
Am I saying stupid things? I know about PAE and it's a fudge that can create compatibility problems, especially with games.

Yep, you keep doing that by hinting at the fact that GPUs are mostly used for gaming. It surely looks like you like embarrassing yourself.

Also "can create" is a very weak argument against deprecating things which work perfectly for a large swath of people and use cases.

qubit · Dec 22, 2017

birdie said:
Yep, you keep doing that by hinting at the fact that GPUs are mostly used for gaming. It surely looks like you like embarrassing yourself.

Also "can create" is a very weak argument against deprecating things which work perfectly for a large swath of people and use cases.

I see you just like being argumentative. :rolleyes:

Anyway, this is a thread about 32-bit support being pulled by NVIDIA, with their GeForce GPUs indeed being used mostly for gaming, so my comment is properly in context, but it seems you hadn't noticed.

My can create argument isn't weak at all. Sorry. How about if I rephrase it that it does create compatibility problems in some instances, hence my sentence. Do let me know if I didn't dot the I or cross the T somewhere in this post, won't you? :rolleyes:

PcForge · Dec 22, 2017

where is the poll

birdie · Dec 22, 2017

qubit said:
I see you just like being argumentative.

Anyway, this is a thread about 32-bit support being pulled by NVIDIA, with their GeForce GPUs indeed being used mostly for gaming, so my comment is properly in context, but it seems you hadn't noticed.

My can create argument isn't weak at all. Sorry. How about if I rephrase it that it does create compatibility problems in some instances, hence my sentence. Do let me know if I didn't dot the I or cross the T somewhere in this post, won't you?

Where does the NVIDIA's article mention GeForce GPUs? From the article:

After Release 390, NVIDIA will no longer release drivers for 32-bit operating systems for any GPU architecture.

I'm not sure I like being argumentative, but I surely like sound arguments which you're severely lacking.

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