WCG-TPU Cruncher's Hardware/Tech Support Discussion Thread

[Norton]

what's you usual ambient temp for those temps?

Usually around 24-25C...

 

[twilyth]

Stock 1700 and stock cooler at 67 under full load.

 

[Chicken Patty]

My Ryzen 1700 at 3.7 GHz and 1.329v vcore runs at about 72ºc with an ambient temp of about 23-24ºc. If you guys still have sense mi skew enabled it might be reading lower. A lot of boards are actually reporting lower than it is. Before I disabled that I saw 15-20ºc cooler. So be careful. Also, there should be another tab that has the motherboard name, that has a CPU temp that is more accurate so I've noticed. See below in my case. For specs on the cooling, it's all in my system specs

 

[Bow]

last week I noticed that I had stopped crunching on my main PC. I ran the usual maintenance programs and restarted but I could not connect, I uninstalled WCG and reinstalled and it worked fine for a couple days then stopped again. If I reinstall it will connect, not sure what may have changed, any ideas?

 

[stevorob]

I have noticed lately that several of my clients will randomly stop uploading or download jobs until I either restart the client or a full shut down and restart. Worst case for me has been reinstalling the client

It seems like these issues have started since they moved everything off to the cloud.

Has anyone else had these same sort of issues?

 

[thebluebumblebee]

WCG has had some problems lately, but a client reinstall was not needed. What was the BOINC manager's event log saying?

 

[Bow]

Sorry it took so long to get back, Event log is blank, and I still can not connect to host.

 

[thebluebumblebee]

Did you happen to install the latest version of the client?

 

[Bow]

Sure did

 

[Norton]

Sorry it took so long to get back, Event log is blank, and I still can not connect to host.

That's pretty odd- time/date correct on the PC?

 

[Bow]

all good, going to reinstall again antivirus blocking it? firewall? maybe
bitdefender free,

 

[Bow]

reinstalled and it works, connected to host. Now I have something in my event log.

7/27/2017 7:59:08 PM | | Starting BOINC client version 7.2.47 for windows_x86_64
7/27/2017 7:59:08 PM | | log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task
7/27/2017 7:59:08 PM | | Libraries: libcurl/7.25.0 OpenSSL/1.0.1 zlib/1.2.6
7/27/2017 7:59:08 PM | | Data directory: C:\ProgramData\BOINC
7/27/2017 7:59:08 PM | | Running under account Rich's
7/27/2017 7:59:08 PM | | OpenCL: AMD/ATI GPU 0: Tahiti (driver version 2348.3, device version OpenCL 1.2 AMD-APP (2348.3), 3072MB, 3072MB available, 2688 GFLOPS peak)
7/27/2017 7:59:08 PM | | OpenCL CPU: AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1100T Processor (OpenCL driver vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc., driver version 2348.3 (sse2), device version OpenCL 1.2 AMD-APP (2348.3))
7/27/2017 7:59:08 PM | | Host name: Richs-PC
7/27/2017 7:59:08 PM | | Processor: 6 AuthenticAMD AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1100T Processor [Family 16 Model 10 Stepping 0]
7/27/2017 7:59:08 PM | | Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 htt pni cx16 popcnt syscall nx lm svm sse4a osvw ibs skinit wdt page1gb rdtscp 3dnowext 3dnow
7/27/2017 7:59:08 PM | | OS: Microsoft Windows 8.1: Core x64 Edition, (06.03.9600.00)
7/27/2017 7:59:08 PM | | Memory: 7.99 GB physical, 15.99 GB virtual
7/27/2017 7:59:08 PM | | Disk: 930.97 GB total, 381.35 GB free
7/27/2017 7:59:08 PM | | Local time is UTC -4 hours
7/27/2017 7:59:08 PM | World Community Grid | URL http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/; Computer ID 2017221; resource share 100
7/27/2017 7:59:08 PM | World Community Grid | General prefs: from World Community Grid (last modified 18-May-2017 10:50:00)
7/27/2017 7:59:08 PM | World Community Grid | Host location: none
7/27/2017 7:59:08 PM | World Community Grid | General prefs: using your defaults
7/27/2017 7:59:08 PM | | Reading preferences override file
7/27/2017 7:59:08 PM | | Preferences:
7/27/2017 7:59:08 PM | | max memory usage when active: 4088.54MB
7/27/2017 7:59:08 PM | | max memory usage when idle: 6950.51MB
7/27/2017 7:59:08 PM | | max disk usage: 100.00GB
7/27/2017 7:59:08 PM | | don't use GPU while active
7/27/2017 7:59:08 PM | | suspend work if non-BOINC CPU load exceeds 25%
7/27/2017 7:59:08 PM | | (to change preferences, visit a project web site or select Preferences in the Manager)
7/27/2017 7:59:08 PM | | Found project_init.xml for http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/
7/27/2017 7:59:08 PM | | Not using a proxy
7/27/2017 7:59:16 PM | | Running CPU benchmarks
7/27/2017 7:59:16 PM | | Suspending computation - CPU benchmarks in progress
7/27/2017 7:59:16 PM | World Community Grid | Sending scheduler request: Requested by project.
7/27/2017 7:59:16 PM | World Community Grid | Requesting new tasks for CPU
7/27/2017 7:59:18 PM | World Community Grid | Scheduler request completed: got 3 new tasks
7/27/2017 7:59:48 PM | | Benchmark results:
7/27/2017 7:59:48 PM | | Number of CPUs: 6
7/27/2017 7:59:48 PM | | 3336 floating point MIPS (Whetstone) per CPU
7/27/2017 7:59:48 PM | | 7946 integer MIPS (Dhrystone) per CPU
7/27/2017 7:59:49 PM | World Community Grid | Started download of MCM1_0134886_4412_MCM1_0134886_4412.txt
7/27/2017 7:59:49 PM | World Community Grid | Started download of MCM1_0134886_5393_MCM1_0134886_5393.txt
7/27/2017 7:59:51 PM | World Community Grid | Finished download of MCM1_0134886_4412_MCM1_0134886_4412.txt
7/27/2017 7:59:51 PM | World Community Grid | Finished download of MCM1_0134886_5393_MCM1_0134886_5393.txt
7/27/2017 7:59:51 PM | World Community Grid | Started download of MCM1_0134886_4352_MCM1_0134886_4352.txt
7/27/2017 7:59:52 PM | World Community Grid | Finished download of MCM1_0134886_4352_MCM1_0134886_4352.txt

 

[Norton]

reinstalled and it works, connected to host. Now I have something in my event log.

Did you have to disable your antivirus?

 

[Bow]

no its still running. and the firewall is up, if i shut down and restart it will not connect to host.

 

[Bow]

and again, shut down WCG and now it will not connect to the host again??

 

[twilyth]

I started a thread in General Hardware about the possibility of getting an LTO5 tape drive and SAS controller. So if anyone here knows about that sort of thing and would like to offer your advice, I would appreciate it.

https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/sas-controllers-and-tape-drives.237320/

 

[blindfitter]

Hi All,

Currently reading through this thread.

My 1st Noob Question on crunching.

Will start with my daily rig.

6700k @ 4.4k 24/7 164 watts (total out the wall) 100% Boinc

Temps: cpu 54c water 26c Ambient 21c

Read in here that the following will assist you in evaluating my expectations of running Boinc. can’t wait for 7Day and 28Day averages to see if its performing well or not.

Fri 29 Dec 07:20:15 2017 | | Running CPU benchmarks
Fri 29 Dec 07:20:15 2017 | | Suspending computation - CPU benchmarks in progress
Fri 29 Dec 07:20:46 2017 | | Benchmark results:
Fri 29 Dec 07:20:46 2017 | | Number of CPUs: 8
Fri 29 Dec 07:20:46 2017 | | 6160 floating point MIPS (Whetstone) per CPU
Fri 29 Dec 07:20:46 2017 | | 17545 integer MIPS (Dhrystone) per CPU
Fri 29 Dec 07:20:47 2017 | | Resuming computation

So the question again is it any good? and which is the best OS, running Windows, OSX and now trying my hand at Linuxmint (total noob 3days in)

 

[mstenholm]

Linux is the way to go. Avoid MCM and possible also MIP.

 

[blindfitter]

Linux is the way to go. Avoid MCM and possible also MIP.

Please explain a bit more, I really am new to this experience of computing, and trying to pickup knowledge as quick as i can (being an OAP)

thanks for replying mstenholm

is it this your referring to,
Million instructions per second (MIPS) is an older, obsolete measure of a computer's speed and power, MIPS measures roughly the number of machine instructions that a computer can execute in one second. However, different instructions require more or less time than others, and there is no standard method for measuring MIPS. In addition, MIPS refers only to the CPU speed, whereas real applications are generally limited by other factors, such as I/Ospeed.

A machine with a high MIPS rating, therefore, might not run a particular application any faster than a machine with a low MIPS rating. For all these reasons, MIPS ratings are not used often anymore. In fact, some people jokingly claim that MIPS really stands for Meaningless Indicator of Performance.

Despite these problems, a MIPS rating can give you a general idea of a computer's speed. The IBM PC/XT computer, for example, is rated at ¼ MIPS, while Pentium-based PCs run at over 100 MIPS.

 

[mstenholm]

Linux is more efficient and will yield you more points.
MIP is Microbiome Immunity Project
MCM is Mapping Cancer Markers.
You can chose projects here https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/ms/viewMyProjects.do

Edit: I can only use one arm/hand ATM so answers are short.

 

[blindfitter]

Thanks for the reply mstenholm,

O, yet another element in this crunching.

i need to get things in order of priority

Hardware, Operating System and now which Projects are the most plentifully in points.

This is looking like and enjoyable task to follow .

As you have said Linux is the way to go, and have built 2 Headless running linuxmint. No.1 a 3770k @stock and No.2 a E2620 @ 1.9k will convert my attention to these
as the OS is good.

Hope your indisposement is short-term.

 

[Arjai]

@blindfitter I would suggest running all projects, to start. Then after a month, or two, go to WCG site and look into what has done well on your setup and what hasn't. From what I have found, Intel chips run MIP a little better than AMD does. I currently have only intel running in my small farm. So, MIP is actually out pointing the others. MCM, well, is it a great cause and they have a ton of Work Units to do. I got my 10 year badge, rather quickly, then switched it off during the recent challenge, for points(they are a bit stingy). I have been too lazy to switch back, work and more work lately. Plus, I want to pad my badges with some multi-year stuff, and I already have a 10 year in MCM.

My point is this, all the projects need our help and all of them are worthy. Points shouldn't really matter, until a challenge comes around. So, running all projects gives you a feel for what works best on your boxes.

/Rant
BTW, you may not know this but, This is the BEST Crunching TEAM on the Planet! Welcome to the Team!!

 

[blindfitter]

@Arjai I guess i'm trying to run before walking first.

after being introduced to crunching by Phill123, due to my lady being diagnosed with small cell cancer.

Having setup a machine and started was relative easy, but could not find much information on how to do it well. Dummies Guide to Crunching would be welcome to New comers .


One thing i was told all crunching is treated equally, meaning, all work done is scored the same. this doesn't work on my setups. and i started to try and fine answers to why, hence some of my noobish questions to guys who have been putting the time and effort in.

I am getting it together slower than i would like, my electricity now costing me £1 day more, which is cheap compared with the cost of the treatment the NHS has provided the last 6 months for my wife.


Challenge? whats that all about, Hope someone advises on When and a 'How to compete in a challenge for the team'

thanks again Arjai, and all projects will have my support, some a little sooner than others.

 

[infrared]

Does anyone know how to get temp sensors showing up for Ryzen? I installed the latest mint distro, 18.3, I thought it'd work straight off the bat but as always it seems to be fighting me every step.

I tried following some instructions I found here: https://linuxconfig.org/monitor-amd-ryzen-temperatures-in-linux-with-latest-kernel-modules

Even the very first command, "sudo apt install build-essential bison flex linux-headers" it asks me to choose a specific set of headers, and none of the subsequent commands seem to work without that first one getting accepted right. I randomly picked some 4.13 generic headers to see if I could make it do something which just resulted in a different error. I'm lost, pains are real bad today too so I'm having trouble thinking

Anyway, I'll get boinc installed and running again and figure this out later. Cheers in advance if someone can point me in the right direction.

 

[blindfitter]

Menu, Software Manager,
Type "Psensor in searchBox" choose and launch, works for me on intel, ryzen not here yet

or right click in bottom bar, choose Add to panel scroll down "hardware sensors monitor" add to panel

Pretty basic i know, but i'm new to Linux hope it helps