Xeon Owners Club

[EarthDog]

Not really a glitch, that can happen on some out-of-spec ES Xeons sometimes.
Encountered this when I was hunting for a cheap test CPU for my x99 board: seen some weird stuff, like the same CPU model can have a "wrong" CPUID, different base clock, or can be a hexa-core or an octa-core etc.

Yes, it sure happens... it also is an ES as tpu noted. Plenty of reason for it to act wonky, including manipulation. But there is literally no reason this dude would do that...to what end? I digress...ot.

 

[johnspack]

@EarthDog Thanks for standing up for my craziness. I swear it is a CPUz glitch on the top, identifying the CPU as 1620 V2.
@lexluthermiester This CPU definitely is not a fake and neither is my screenshot. It seems the Xeon club hasn't caught up to Ivy-EP yet. There's not a whole lot, but you can see a few LN2 entries at HWBOT.
@jaggerwild I'm specifically talking about the Ivy-EP octacore. The Sandy Bridge ones are cheaper for sure. Like @agent_x007 already mentioned, the 1660 V2 is just the enterprise edition of the 4960X, so it overclocks similarly. I run custom water cooling, if that helps to comprehend the higher clocks and voltage.

Here's an AIDA64 shot -- still running Dual-Channel because my desktop is using the other two sticks of RAM at the moment:

This should give you an idea what to expect for memory once you go quad:

 

[lexluthermiester]

@EarthDog Thanks for standing up for my craziness. I swear it is a CPUz glitch on the top, identifying the CPU as 1620 V2.
@lexluthermiester This CPU definitely is not a fake and neither is my screenshot. It seems the Xeon club hasn't caught up to Ivy-EP yet. There's not a whole lot, but you can see a few LN2 entries at HWBOT.
@jaggerwild I'm specifically talking about the Ivy-EP octacore. The Sandy Bridge ones are cheaper for sure. Like @agent_x007 already mentioned, the 1660 V2 is just the enterprise edition of the 4960X, so it overclocks similarly. I run custom water cooling, if that helps to comprehend the higher clocks and voltage.

Here's an AIDA64 shot -- still running Dual-Channel because my desktop is using the other two sticks of RAM at the moment:

Fair enough then. Seen things like that before where people fake things out to create drama. It's all good though. I apologize.

 

[phill]

ASUS ROG ii Extreme
ASUS P6 T deluxe
2 x DFI Lanparty
MSI Pro E
Supermicro 2 P

Very nice collection there sir Mines just

EVGA Classified 759
EVGA Classified 762
EVGA Classified SR-2
Gigabyte X58A-OC

I do have a Dell R710 server but I've no idea what board is in that... I might also have an Asus Rampage Black Edition coming at some point....

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

Gigabyte X58A-OC

Jammy bugger

 

[phill]

Jammy bugger

I didn't think it would have worked with jam so well???? I picked it up fully boxed for about £160.. I saw it and didn't think twice The last piece of hardware I bought before I changed my job and my money dropped like a stone ! But... A few more months and things should hopefully change......

http://imgur.com/flhPWjy

http://imgur.com/FWt55Sq

http://imgur.com/zhgwsmN

 

[Norton]

Gigabyte X58A-OC

I had one of those for awhile- very nice board! It wasn't in as good a condition as yours though and I traded it for an Asus Maximus IV Gene Z

Currently I have 2 X58 boards in my crunching farm:
- EVGA X58 Sli3
- Asus Rampage III Extreme

 

[phill]

I love the X58 platform it's just such a shame its such a power hungry beast! That said, not surprised when I was running 4.5Ghz from my 920 D0, but if I remember the SR-2 correctly, running the two X5650's I think was something daft like 400 to 500w!! With an overclock mind lol

Maybe should try tuning it and seeing if I could get that down a little The single X5650 in the R710 seems to idle about the 150w mark, but load about the 230w mark.. I wonder what it's going to be like in there with two X5650's in it...

 

[natr0n]

If you disable hyper threading does your power usage lower somewhat ? I don't have a watt meter yet.

 

[win95gui]

If you can do dual CPU why not Quad's??

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

If you disable hyper threading does your power usage lower somewhat ? I don't have a watt meter yet.

i will test that for you in a while.

@win95gui

wow....thats the best Task Manager i have ever seen. Welcome to TPU.

 

[win95gui]

My daily driver

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

If you disable hyper threading does your power usage lower somewhat ? I don't have a watt meter yet.

Wendys Nightmare with HT on and off, at idle in BIOS and running the multithread CPUZ benchmark only. If you want anymore just ask.


HT off

168.....252

HT on

171.....302

 

[natr0n]

Wendys Nightmare with HT on and off, at idle in BIOS and running the multithread CPUZ benchmark only. If you want anymore just ask.


HT off

168.....252

HT on

171.....302

Thanks a lot Mate. 50 watts savings. So about I'm guessing I should save about 100 watts with it off.

I noticed with ht off when you try aida64's cachemem benchmark the cache speeds can increase a good bit.

 

[win95gui]

i will test that for you in a while.

@win95gui

wow....thats the best Task Manager i have ever seen. Welcome to TPU.

It's only a Quad Deca-core with 1TB of RAM. Pretty slow system

 

[lexluthermiester]

If you disable hyper threading does your power usage lower somewhat ? I don't have a watt meter yet.

That would be yes.

Wendys Nightmare with HT on and off, at idle in BIOS and running the multithread CPUZ benchmark only. If you want anymore just ask.
HT off
168.....252
HT on
171.....302

Oops, looks like you already had an answer.

 

[Zyll Goliat]

Anyone had experience with Intel BOXDX58SO mobo?Are Xeons working OK on that board?

 

[EarthDog]

What cpus does it take? It should have a list...

 

[lexluthermiester]

Anyone had experience with Intel BOXDX58SO mobo?Are Xeons working OK on that board?

What cpus does it take? It should have a list...

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813121361
https://www.intel.com/content/dam/support/us/en/documents/boardsandkits/desktop-boards/DX58SO.pdf
Based on that list, I'm betting any 1366 Xeon or i7 will work.
The layout of that board in very good. I like it! Although, based on what I've read, if you want full speed triple channel ram, leave ram slot one (the black one) open/unpopulated.

 

[EarthDog]

So much for teaching a man how to fish...

 

[lexluthermiester]

So much for teaching a man how to fish...

Or he looked, couldn't find any concrete information and sought help here amongst experienced folks who can render insight he didn't have.
To be fair, it wasn't a noob question.

 

[EarthDog]

It is, actually. Motherboards have had (many different types of) compatibility lists for God knows how long.

Though perhaps he was asking specifically about experiences with it? He did explicitly say that and i missed it... dont know.

My sig from another forum reads " we have an increasing number of ways to find information yet people are less inclined to do so."

 

[lexluthermiester]

It is, actually. Motherboards have had (many different types of) compatibility lists for God knows how long. Though perhaps he was asking specifically about experiences with it? He did explicitly say that and i missed it... dont know. My sig from another forum reads " we have an increasing number of ways to find information yet people are less inclined to do so."

Disagree. Intel isn't so good with that as evidenced by the PDF I linked above. I very seriously doubt the CPU's compatible with that board are limited to that list. So if the owner of a board see's a list like that they might think, incorrectly and through no fault of their own, that the CPU they want to use wouldn't work. How hard would it be to for Intel make a proper compatibility list of their own CPU's on their own mobo's? So thus not a noob question if the owner doesn't know and can't find the info because it isn't there.

 

[EarthDog]

Since we see a list, and all major OEMs have this, I feel its a pretty basic question which takes all of 1 minute to find the answer.............. just like you managed to do. Thus, easy question if you remove all the straw man argument/speculation about lists not being 'proper' and just look for it.

Perhaps the list should be longer. Who knows (not you nor I). But when I see a CPU SUPPORT LIST and my CPU isn't on it, I don't think maybe said company is slacking on the list... at least it surely isn't the first thought in my mind. But hey, you never know until you try, right? So go ahead, Zyll, use one not off the list and report back. Inquiring minds want to know and you have people betting on success.

Anyway, I digress...


EDIT: I can feel the douchebaggery boiling up inside of me and spilling out here. For that I do apologize. The more time goes on my experience in forums just sours me on so many levels. We have so much information out there readily available if we simply take the time to look, but so many don't bother and have others do it for them. As I said, I prefer to teach men to fish as opposed to giving them fish. Did you ever notice how few questions/threads I start here? Its not because I'm a genius, hardly, its because I can google. But, this is my personal problem with forums... not anyone else's, really.

 

[dorsetknob]

If it fits the socket and voltages are in-spec then despite not being listed on the CPU support list it may
1. Boot and be recognised.
2. Boot as a unrecognised generic CPU
3. May need a CPU microcode BIOS injection.

Many a 775 Motherboard could with a BIOS microcode injection be modded to use and run the Xeon 771 Cpu ( with socket mod as well )