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'not by much'... is that around 30% on average? As that is about the IPC difference between the two...
In games, I'm not seeing much difference at all, if any. Web browsing, none. For the video editing, there's where the difference comes in. Total run-times are only about 20% off, which isn't bothersome. Bootup times are about 4 seconds longer. I attribute that more to the difference in BIOS->OS hand-off between the systems.

Something i didn't take in consideration is Steam on XP?
Like GOG, it depends on the dev and title. However the Steam Client itself will still install and run on XP. The reason Steam is still supporting it is because of all the classic games that run better on XP. They'll phase it out eventually, but not while they still have a solid 15% of the audience still running XP for classic gaming reasons. And that's what you're doing. You should be good. Have at it. Hell, I know someone running Steam on Windows 98SE for the classic gaming aspect.
 
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Benchmark Scores Faster than yours... I'd bet on it. :)
In games, I'm not seeing much difference at all, if any. Web browsing, none. For the video editing, there's where the difference comes in. Total run-times are only about 20% off, which isn't bothersome. Bootup times are about 4 seconds longer. I attribute that more to the difference in BIOS->OS hand-off between the systems.
Glad that happening for your use model. Games will vary but that platform can easily cap fps. Other reviews show it an average of 30% faster. The performance difference between those cpus can be pretty big. :)
 
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Glad that happening for your use model. Games will vary but that platform can easily cap fps. Other reviews show it an average of 30% faster. The performance difference between those cpus can be pretty big. :)
It's a short term thing. I'm going with dual socket Xeon setup sometime soon. It's likely going to be a pair of 6 or 8 core E5's.
 
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Cant wait to test re-encoding a video. Ive been using an older 350 watt that has both 4 pin eps and 8pin. I added a 4 to 8 pin eps adapter. Makeshift indeed.
 

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And finally working, installed Windows XP and did some mild overclock.

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Please help it happened today. i have problem with Asus p6x58d-e and x5660 cpu motherboard got dram led stayed on. tried test outside the case but no luck put one ram on each slots not working reset cmos re-seat cpu took the battery out not working. cpu warm when took the cooler. what is possibly wrong cpu or mobo. don't have spare cpu.

PS: also motherboard power on even cpu not installed..
 
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I was waiting for the first comment on the voltage :laugh:

That's due to Speedstep and undervolting when at idle, usually pushes to 1.400V in Prime/LinX. I like my power saving features :cool::D


PS. I got 10 extra points by tweaking Memory subtimings, i.e RTL Values and tRFC.
 
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And finally working, installed Windows XP and did some mild overclock.

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LOL! Love the use of the Pirate wallpaper! Haven't seen that in years. Rock on mate! :rockout:

CPU: XEON EIGHT CORE X5450 + X5450 ÇİFT CPU-8 Core Dual CPU-Processor
That didn't seem right and I looked it up;
https://ark.intel.com/products/34446/Intel-Xeon-Processor-X5450-12M-Cache-3_00-GHz-1333-MHz-FSB
The X5450 is a quad-core CPU. I think what you meant was 2xQuad-Core CPU's for a total of 8 cores on the system.
 
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I approved it yesterday in the Moderation Queue and it was here thereafter, then it appeared again this morning with another post that you did, as I was sure I had approved it yesterday I double checked back here and it was here and not annotated "awaiting moderator approval" so I approved the other post and selected "do nothing" for the one from yesterday (as it appeared that there would then be 2 of the same post), it seems that "do nothing" took the original one out....... possibly a glitch, I don't know.
 
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After ordering another e5450 eo revison as the one i have wont stay normal at all in stock and overclock crashing all over the place at all ranges of voltages. If that dont resolved it im gonna replace the motherboard for asus p5q deluxe or another asus p5q premium. As the error im getting in the who crashed log which states 0x124 i even went to 1.40v on the e5450 which i know max safe is 1.35v and the vtt at 1.40v even went to 1.46v for testing still crashes
 
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It seems like your chip have been abused, wrong voltages and your CPU will suffer instability.
 
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It been like this since the day i installed the e5450 eo chip. The voltage were all stock as the graphic card in pcie x16 makes the system lock up but not in x4 which could point the motherboard have something wrong in the northbridge department. As im waiting for the e5450 to arrive as i will do all the usual testing and stick to the safe voltages. If all failed then the board is to blame gonna take awhile to gather up moonies
 
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It been like this since the day i installed the e5450 eo chip. The voltage were all stock as the graphic card in pcie x16 makes the system lock up but not in x4 which could point the motherboard have something wrong in the northbridge department. As im waiting for the e5450 to arrive as i will do all the usual testing and stick to the safe voltages. If all failed then the board is to blame gonna take awhile to gather up moonies
That would be a logical deduction. If both CPU's are having issues, the culprit is likely to be the mobo. Have you tried resetting all the bios setting to factory defaults and starting fresh?
 

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If all failed then the board is to blame gonna take awhile to gather up moonies
I know @infrared had a board and offered it to you but it had problems so fail thru i have a P5e (x38) and a P5 deluxe Turbo (P45) in my wardrobe. the P5deluxe Turbo (P45) i have owned since new P5e acquired s/h both fully work and are packed away in their retail boxes.
either may be of use/interest to you if your board does have problems
 
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Thanks for letting me know. Sure i let you know when the day i get the e5450 in the post. I have already tried the default bios settings before no improvement. If i had the gtx 750 ti in x4 slot it bottlenecking the performance with stuttering and lagging but play alot longer on games but dont want to give meself a headache with bad screen tearing. As i see alot of youtube videos with a similar set up and they are nearly lag free and similar cpu clock speed. As i like the layout of the asus p5q premium
 
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