Tom's Hardware Edioter-in-chief's stance on RTX 20 Series : JUST BUY IT

[Vayra86]

Seems like such a waste of money then. They're pretty secure in the PC gaming market. Why be so petty?

Long term strategy: its costly to produce GPUs that can comfortably push ultra high res (4K) or high FPS and its much easier to cloud the lack of progress by introducing performance stagnation through new features - like RTX. Its another thing you can scale up on and start from scratch. Unlike scaling raw perf, this doesnt cost extra bus width, VRAM etc. Its easy: just add marketing and pray itll catch on.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

You might spend less per X product/produce, but you can never, ever save while buying things, unless someone gives you more money for youe purchase than you spent. It's a common thing in marketing: take 3, pay for 2! Even if you really need just one, or more commonly none, you're tempted to buy it anyway. And people do buy it. If you were about to pay two anyway you get more than you otherwise would have, but you never save anything.

It's actually a GN pun, joke.

Nvidia talk server savings on multiple GPUs.

This is geforce, consumer land , that law of returns doesn't mean jack in this debate.

You should both know that.

 

[StrayKAT]

Long term strategy: its costly to produce GPUs that can comfortably push ultra high res (4K) or high FPS and its much easier to cloud the lack of progress by introducing performance stagnation through new features - like RTX. Its another thing you can scale up on and start from scratch. Unlike scaling raw perf, this doesnt cost extra bus width, VRAM etc. Its easy: just add marketing and pray itll catch on.

Makes sense, I guess. I didn't think about all of that.

….Assuming gamers are really that easily duped... (unfortunately I think they may be).

 

[Recus]

Man, you should work for marketing at Nvidia, your claims are as vague and meaningless as theirs.

Stop drinking TFLOS coolaid.

Written by a different editor a day prior, you can spin in whichever way you want, it was a load of braindead bullshit.

It's posted right next to each other how people can't see something made-up is going on. What if one of them posts review where RTX 2000 is slower and the next day other guy comes with opposite results?

you're totally missing the point, sure performance-wise Turing will be faster than Pascal
the issue is tom's not even bench the card yet, but dishing out articles to urge the reader to go ahead (PRE-ORDER, mind you) on product that we dont know the performance numbers yet
just like Steve said in the video, it's just like ignoring what tech site (TPU in this case) been doing all these years, and go buy it just because of some vague numbers from slide deck that released by marketing team (wow, right?)

That's common practice in video games sites. Previews, hand-ons sound cool and you might pre-order but after reading review you feel fooled.

Knowing how much these cards cost and only one review site is forcing you to pre-order I doubt it's real.

Also RTX 2000 won't have much launch games with ray tracing. BF V pre-orders are tragic low, ray tracing for SofTR will come later via patch, Metro Exus 2019, Serious Sam 4 TBA...

You might spend less per X product/produce, but you can never, ever save while buying things, unless someone gives you more money for youe purchase than you spent. It's a common thing in marketing: take 3, pay for 2! Even if you really need just one, or more commonly none, you're tempted to buy it anyway. And people do buy it. If you were about to pay two anyway you get more than you otherwise would have, but you never save anything.

I know but it's different and works in specific situations.

 

[chaosmassive]

UPDATE : it seems tom's hardware comment section has been purged
thats edioter's in-chief for ya !

 

[HD64G]

Another one who spoke against preordering had his sponsorship with nVidia terminated. They are trying very hard to make people preorder their GPUs. I wonder why...

 

[AlienIsGOD]

i called TH out on their Twitter post of this, no reply obviously lol

 

[Mussels]

This just reinforces why TPU is my main haunt - we dont want shit unless its been benchmarked to death and we know exactly how good a product is

 

[RejZoR]

TPU generally has very good testing methodologies and they don't push around drama which is respectable and which is why I usually take great regard for TPU reviews. Recommending a graphic card no one but NVIDIA itself has tested, based on some marketing graphs is just foolish and absurd. I think we all expected more from Tom's Hardware as they are generally very respectable outlet.

 

[ShurikN]

Another one who spoke against preordering had his sponsorship with nVidia terminated. They are trying very hard to make people preorder their GPUs. I wonder why...

This is getting juicier by the minute.

 

[Vya Domus]

This is getting juicier by the minute.

And no one will bat an eye. Everyone knows about this sort of stuff, it's not news at all.

You don't say good things about a company and their products then they'll just avoid you and stop having any interaction with you, it's that simple.

 

[hat]

Oh, sure, just preorder this graphics card that nobody knows anything about yet, other than it has this (currently) shitty tech that makes games designed to use it look pretty, but slow to a crawl... and it'll probably maybe be faster by an unknown margin than Pascal in everything else, hopefully... right? BUY BUY BUY

 

[Vayra86]

This needs to be blown wide open. After GPP, this persistence is staggering and arrogant beyond belief.

 

[Divide Overflow]

I think we all expected more from Tom's Hardware as they are generally very respectable outlet.

I haven't respected Tom's in quite some time. This just confirms my opinion.

 

[natr0n]

I cant stand that dude with his fkn hair. He should tie his hair very douche bag unprofessional.

 

[Aquinus]

Suspicious...

 

[Tsukiyomi91]

I think we all should stop giving those folks traffic since all of us will never know how RTX will perform till it arrives on 20th Sept. Shooting wild assumptions across the room won't really bring us far IMO. Playing the waiting game is all we can do for now... coz mindless bantering & whatnot is not going to help.

 

[R-T-B]

Now we know why the prices are jacked up: All those bags of money Nvidia needs to buy the dev time, and the tech "press" needs to get paid somehow. Guess what: we're now paying for our own fake news !

I must've missed out when I worked here.

 

[Tsukiyomi91]

@Vayra86 good one. A grand plot twist from the green camp. xD

 

[hat]

This needs to be blown wide open. After GPP, this persistence is staggering and arrogant beyond belief.

Seems to fall well in line with the same kind of anti consumer/anti competition stuff the GPP was made up of...

At least when it comes to raw performance (shitty one-off tech notwithstanding) they make a good product. Why do they gotta do this anti-everybody shit? Can't have any competition, can't have any reviewers say it's not the best thing they've ever seen since the last time nVidia did anything...

I mean, my 1070 is a good card, but I'm not going around bludgeoning AMD to death with it, along with any reviewers or anybody else who says anything that even remotely sounds like they might be saying they don't like it (and then still continuing to use it after all the bludgeoning, cause it's that awesome and durable) and then donating more money to nVidia for it long after the sale cause it's worth that much (awesome!!).

 

[ShurikN]

Is the title a pun or a typo

 

[Enterprise24]

 

[trparky]

Sounds like someone at Tom's Hardware is expecting a big fat check from nVidia. That's the only reason I can think of why someone would write such a blatant shill of an article.

 

[Tomgang]

Hurry and bay these cards. So that i can get a cheap used second gtx 1080 ti for some sli

Are tom serious. Buy over priced card we dont even know the real performance of yet and still reccomend it. That is nuts

 

[Hood]

Sometimes I check out Tom's on a slow (tech)news day, just to get a laugh at their latest attempts at journalism. This is just another example of why they should be avoided when looking for serious info on a potential purchase. These 2 contradicting articles are a sad attempt to gain readership by using controversial click-bait titles and opinions, and are in keeping with their general lack of knowledge and insight. Got them a little attention and a check from NVIDIA, but cost them a few thousand potential readers.