Would anyone be tempted by a Ryzen 1700X for £150???

[phill]

This is a brand new CPU from Scan.co.uk.. I'm seriously tempted (although I shouldn't be!!)

Can someone please talk me out of it!! lol

 

[FreedomEclipse]

Do it. Though next gen zens have better memory compatibility

 

[qubit]

Don't buy it.

EDIT: either go for Intel or the second Ryzen series.

I've not checked, but is the price for it even that great? Ultimately it has to meet your needs, or it's not worth it at any price and only you can decide that.

 

[silentbogo]

1st gen is still bad-ass. I was thinking about buying one myself, cause an R7 1700X (new) ATM costs about the same as an R5 2600 where I'm from, only a few $$ difference. Clocks might be slower, and no advanced boost options, but it's an excellent option for multithreaded workloads regardless... Maybe not as impressive for gaming as an upcoming 9th gen Intel or current 2nd gen Ryzen, but I don't see a single con for work applications. It's gonna be the first time since my X5650 that I went with a 6+ core CPU (so far I was getting by with an i3-6100 for the most part).

An 1800X at 150euro is a steal. If it's enough for your tasks, then you should definitely buy it. Just in case you should get a 400-series board for it.

 

[LPide]

Nothing wrong with 1700X if you are not going ballistics on your computer

 

[thebluebumblebee]

Can someone please talk me out of it!! lol

That's easy. If you're thinking about it for crunching, the 65 watt 1700 is the way to go. W1zzard's testing showed that there's a 50 watt difference between the 1700X and the 1700, and the 1700 is second only to the 2700 when it comes to efficiency.
I've been getting ~25K (Linux/OET) on my 1700 lately.

 

[NdMk2o1o]

This is a brand new CPU from Scan.co.uk.. I'm seriously tempted (although I shouldn't be!!)

Can someone please talk me out of it!! lol

I paid release price for the 1600 non x £200 or close to iir, and am still happy with it, 1700x is a very very good amount of cpu for 150 notes, memory compatibility isn't so much of an issue either with the latest bios and agesa updates since release, I say hell yea, go for it, 4-4.1 should be fairly easy to shoot for 24/7 overclock as well.

 

[EntropyZ]

I remember getting the R5 1600 for about 220 euro on release, it was a reliable value for money chip, a year later I made the side-grade to R5 2600 for better single-thread performance and overclocks. A 240mm AIO for a chip like this is too much, though it does keep the system really cool. For gaming I'd have the R5 2600 since it is more efficient. But for work and productivity at £150 the R7 1700X doesn't look bad.

You can pick up a B350/X370 second-hand boards pretty cheap. And some people are selling B450/X470 barely used at slightly lower prices than brand new. I scored an X470 ITX motherboard at £140 when they retailed at around £175-185.

For the amount of cores/threads the 1700X has, it is unbeatable at that price as an all-rounder, but it really depends on what you're going to do with it. At a similar price point you can get a chip that will do gaming better at higher framerates (a.la R5 2600), on the other-hand you can find something like the 1700/X which crushes in multi-thread workloads.

For the first 6 months as a Ryzen-user, being an early adopter was worth it, the whole experience was making hardware fun again for me. Once the Agesa 1.0.0.6 update hit, even dual-rank dimms could get to 3200MHz no problem on most motherboards, or maybe my particular chip was from a batch that was good, who knows. Tuning Ryzen performance is still alive, you can still get some drops of extra performance out of it, since dynamic clock scaling and the auto D.O.C.P modes are hit and miss sometimes and range differently from motherboard to motherboard. So if you have time and enjoy messing with settings, it would be your kind of chip, right up that alley.

To me it Ryzen feels like the spiritual successor of Phenom II chips, they're what FX series should have been. In my mind they feel like a Phenom III or something like that. Maybe because I like the previous branding, maybe because I'm still attached to the first proper gaming system I had, back when I was a TPU stalker.

So I would get it, if I had throwaway money right now, just to have a companion system for my current one.

 

[phill]

Reason for the post was simply because it was so cheap and I can't get anything better for the money at all that's as efficient and as powerful Here's the price list of the few AMD 1 series at Scan...

I maintain that the price of that 1700X is amazing.. There's not a massive difference in my opinion compared to the 2700X especially for the extra £100 a CPU... I'd be buying it because I could use it for my daughter and girl friend for PC's, as I've a few Asus Strix RX480's spare as well, I could build them a system and as @thebluebumblebee mentioned about crunching, I could just leave it running.. Sadly Windows would have to be used but I would hope it would still produce a decent enough daily result

I've seen the motherboard I'd like to buy which is this one... I've got some G Skill TridentX which are cherry picked and should do ok for the systems.... Ah....
Is there anything I could change??

 

[Caring1]

Just Do It!

 

[Totally]

Get it.

Don't buy it.

EDIT: either go for Intel or the second Ryzen series.

I've not checked, but is the price for it even that great? Ultimately it has to meet your needs, or it's not worth it at any price and only you can decide that.

Ryzen 2700X only holds an marginal advantage over the 1700X and that seems to be partly due to increased based and turbo clockspeeds besides that memory support has improved but that really doesn't matter at all as long as he sticks to the QVL list or get Samsung b-die kit. The 2700X is certainly not worth 150 more than the 1700X.

 

[qubit]

Get it.



Ryzen 2700X only holds an marginal advantage over the 1700X and that seems to be partly due to increased based and turbo clockspeeds besides that memory support has improved but that really doesn't matter at all as long as he sticks to the QVL list or get Samsung b-die kit. The 2700X is certainly not worth 150 more than the 1700X.

Ok, I see that our OP has changed the title of his thread, it initially said something along the lines of say something to put him off buying it. His OP still does, so I was just finding reasons. I was careful to add that it all depends on whether the product meets his needs or not, so it's still his decision at the end of the day.

 

[StrayKAT]

Just Do It!

Unlike Nvidia's recent shenanigans, the above actually applies here

 

[robot zombie]

I would. I've got a 2600 over here and I still would. If I was gonna do another build right now I'd be happy to have one of those in it. Take some of the money you save and invest in good, listed memory. It'll be worth every penny imo. Hard deal to beat!

 

[phill]

I don't recall changing the thread title to be honest lol @qubit but when I did go to buy two of the CPUs it said only one per customer!! How gutted was I....

Still I do suppose it saves me a few more hundred pounds when I need two motherboards, two coolers and then some new SSDs.. I don't like to do things by half lol

 

[RejZoR]

Depends on use. If it'll be for compute, then yes. If for gaming, then second gen Ryzen would be a better option because of higher boost clocks. Also expect higher price.

 

[qubit]

I don't recall changing the thread title to be honest lol @qubit but when I did go to buy two of the CPUs it said only one per customer!! How gutted was I....

Still I do suppose it saves me a few more hundred pounds when I need two motherboards, two coolers and then some new SSDs.. I don't like to do things by half lol

Maybe a moderator changed the title? I thought it said something like you want us to put you off buying the CPU, like in your OP. Either a mod has changed it, or I'm going mad, lol.

Shame about that customer limit. Perhaps if you try to order another one by phone, or once it's delivered they'll let you? Or more hassly, get a friend to buy one for you and give them the money.

EDIT: It must have gone up, because it's now £196.99 from Scan.

 

[phill]

I would. I've got a 2600 over here and I still would. If I was gonna do another build right now I'd be happy to have one of those in it. Take some of the money you save and invest in good, listed memory. It'll be worth every penny imo. Hard deal to beat!

I have some cherry picked B die Samsung stuff for the future Ryzen systems that currently stuck in my 5960X system Will do 4000+ with decent timings so it'll be perfectly fine for the Ryzen CPUs.. I've two kits of 3466Mhz stuff I think, CAS 14 I think?? 16Gb kits too, plenty for a gaming system with the games my daughter and girl friend would play

Depends on use. If it'll be for compute, then yes. If for gaming, then second gen Ryzen would be a better option because of higher boost clocks. Also expect higher price.

It would be for my 6 year old daughter and my girl friend, so they wouldn't need high clocks or anything with the games they play lol I'd stick on some WCG and get it crunching away as well, since they are so low powered I will be heading towards the 2700 I think as it's perfect for what they'd need I'll just have to wait a fair bit of time now lol

Maybe a moderator changed the title? I thought it said something like you want us to put you off buying the CPU, like in your OP. Either a mod has changed it, or I'm going mad, lol.

Shame about that customer limit. Perhaps if you try to order another one by phone, or once it's delivered they'll let you? Or more hassly, get a friend to buy one for you and give them the money.

EDIT: It must have gone up, because it's now £196.99 from Scan.

I am in agreement but I'm not so worried lol

I should have ordered sooner but I guess they are just trying to shift some old stock.. £150 was a steal, so I'd rather have bought two for that money than paid £200 as I'd considered the 2700 model instead for the extra £55 or so..

I'm surprised if they have any more stock but I'll hold on for ordering for now

 

[NdMk2o1o]

I will be heading towards the 2700 I think as it's perfect for what they'd need I'll just have to wait a fair bit of time now lol

You should have pulled the trigger, as you mentioned, there's not a whole lot of difference performance wise between the 1700x and the 2700x aside from a £150 premium on that price from scan, I think I'll keep an eye out on there to see if they reduce them again anytime soon to replace my 1600

 

[thebluebumblebee]

@phill , you may want to look at this when you get a Ryzen: https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/ryzen-dram-calculator-1-3-1-by-1usmus-released.246355/

 

[cucker tarlson]

Replace 5960x - absolutely not. New,second rig - absolutley yes. There are better cpus to be bought, but not at that price.

 

[HD64G]

If I was to build a new system I'd grab it in no time at the price OP found.

 

[phill]

You should have pulled the trigger, as you mentioned, there's not a whole lot of difference performance wise between the 1700x and the 2700x aside from a £150 premium on that price from scan, I think I'll keep an eye out on there to see if they reduce them again anytime soon to replace my 1600

I'd head over to Overclockers and make a quick buy!! Just ordered two....

@phill , you may want to look at this when you get a Ryzen: https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/ryzen-dram-calculator-1-3-1-by-1usmus-released.246355/

I've got it downloaded @thebluebumblebee Thank you

Replace 5960x - absolutely not. New,second rig - absolutley yes. There are better cpus to be bought, but not at that price.

Not to replace a 5960X, this is for my daughter and girl friend I'll stick with my 5960X until I do something daft again

If I was to build a new system I'd grab it in no time at the price OP found.

Does that tempt you @HD64G ?? Overclockers has them on offer

 

[NdMk2o1o]

Thanks just ordered

 

[phill]

Thanks just ordered

Yeah I was bad too, ordered two

Will you be joining our crunching team @NdMk2o1o ??