Xeon Owners Club

[phill]

You have to actually check the mem chips, my 1050 FTW shows Micron too but it's actually crap Elpida mems.

It's like most of the cards I've seen and bought have Micron It sucks

 

[FireFox]

It's like most of the cards I've seen and bought have Micron It sucks

What's the problem with Micron?

 

[Edwired]

As the vram list goes from great to crap as far as i know samsung gddr5 are the best but ran shortage around the world so they had to get a different supply from hynix which rated ok then elpida was used poor overclocking as it cheaper in the long run then bam micron were used mixed results some great and some run like a pig in overclocking. So surpised that some rtx graphic card are getting artifacts on screen lately sounds like xbox 360 crisis again

 

[FireFox]

So far i cant say anything negative about my 1080 Classified, it is Micron but damn it does the job, first GPU that have been with me for over a year. ( 2.12.2016 ) my Card is almost 2 years old

 

[Edwired]

That good to hear i have the asus gtx 750 ti oc well over a year does the job as it have elipda chips on it overclocking good results on it. As for nvidia driver crashing is related to the cpu and ram been unstable. As for the gpu core and memory it running 1306mhz core, memory 2800mhz where standard it 1150mhz core, memory 2700mhz. Cant complain really

 

[FireFox]

I am tempted to buy this:

 

[lexluthermiester]

I am tempted to buy this:

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That's a great value, do it. IF you can use them that is.

 

[Gorstak]

One mans trash...

Those are quite old. If I were into bussiness of buying old buckets, I'd go for some old dual or quad cpu system too, and ECC DDR3 would be a must have, like 128GB of it, since it sells for peanuts. Would prolly make a RAM drive.

 

[FireFox]

I'd go for some old dual or quad cpu system too, and ECC DDR3 would be a must have,

Do you have a clue of what i own?

Most of my Xeon System are Dual CPU ( EVGA SR-2 Classified ) right now i own 5 Dual CPU Motherboards, i am more into the old 1366/X58 Xeon Gen

 

[lexluthermiester]

One mans trash...

Those are quite old. If I were into bussiness of buying old buckets, I'd go for some old dual or quad cpu system too, and ECC DDR3 would be a must have, like 128GB of it, since it sells for peanuts. Would prolly make a RAM drive.

They are old, true. However, recent benchmarking shows they are still good performers and relevant for the price you'd pay.

 

[phill]

What's the problem with Micron?

Just headroom for overclocking, seems to be a little on the low side really but as with anything overclocking is always a bonus rather than a given
The EVGA 1070 SC I have has Micron and doesn't really overclock so well on the ram which is a shame but not the end of the world

I am tempted to buy this:

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I'm just waiting for my replacement X5675's to come back as one was bent and wasn't able to register all the ram in the system I wouldn't mind having a look for some of the single CPU based Xeon's for my Classified's (759 and 762) but I think they might require mods.. Failing that, I can always try one in my Gigabyte X58A-OC board as I'm sure that was released a little after

They are old, true. However, recent benchmarking shows they are still good performers and relevant for the price you'd pay.

Very much so, even when I first had a 4770k, I noticed that aside from the power draw, the difference in benching between the 920 D0 I have still and that at stock wasn't much at all. Granted you could overclock the 4770k, but when I did, I don't recall there being a big gap in the gaming tests I did.. When I get it sorted as it's delidded, I'll get it back in the Z97 OCF board and see if I can do some comparisons.. With a few generations of hardware at home, the differences would be fun to find out

 

[Edwired]

Just headroom for overclocking, seems to be a little on the low side really but as with anything overclocking is always a bonus rather than a given
The EVGA 1070 SC I have has Micron and doesn't really overclock so well on the ram which is a shame but not the end of the world



I'm just waiting for my replacement X5675's to come back as one was bent and wasn't able to register all the ram in the system I wouldn't mind having a look for some of the single CPU based Xeon's for my Classified's (759 and 762) but I think they might require mods.. Failing that, I can always try one in my Gigabyte X58A-OC board as I'm sure that was released a little after



Very much so, even when I first had a 4770k, I noticed that aside from the power draw, the difference in benching between the 920 D0 I have still and that at stock wasn't much at all. Granted you could overclock the 4770k, but when I did, I don't recall there being a big gap in the gaming tests I did.. When I get it sorted as it's delidded, I'll get it back in the Z97 OCF board and see if I can do some comparisons.. With a few generations of hardware at home, the differences would be fun to find out

What memory bandwidth are you getting from micron? I noticed some are like half of 112gb but not sure of the memory is downclocked to save power or something similar

 

[Gorstak]

Do you have a clue of what i own?
Most of my Xeon System are Dual CPU ( EVGA SR-2 Classified ) right now i own 5 Dual CPU Motherboards, i am more into the old 1366/X58 Xeon Gen

I didn't mean it as an insult. I used to own Q6600 on 775 socket and my 100$ kaby lake pentium eats it in every benchmark. Sure it used to be a nice rig, as is yours, but in 2018? It's like buying a 20 year old used audi or mercedes, over some new car. Simply isn't worth it, unless you're into mods or whatnot. IMHO it belongs in the trash. If you have a specific purpose for that stuff, that justifies at least the electricity bill, then ok. And if you had a 2011-3 socket machine or something like that, I wouldn't say a word.

 

[Edwired]

I didn't mean it as an insult. I used to own Q6600 on 775 socket and my 100$ kaby lake pentium eats it in every benchmark. Sure it used to be a nice rig, as is yours, but in 2018? It's like buying a 20 year old used audi or mercedes, over some new car. Simply isn't worth it, unless you're into mods or whatnot. IMHO it belongs in the trash. If you have a specific purpose for that stuff, that justifies at least the electricity bill, then ok. And if you had a 2011-3 socket machine or something like that, I wouldn't say a word.

Theres nothing wrong with old computers as it down to the persons personal taste as well the newer i7 and i9 uses more power than the older cpu for example xeon e5450 uses less than 80w compare to 7980xe that uses less than 400w when loaded with stock clocks that a big different to today standard

 

[Gorstak]

My G4560 is equall in strength as i5-2500, but comes with all new gizmos on mobo, spends less power and is basically more "atuned" to windows 10 and new softwares in general. Also, it costs only 80$ in my country, while that i5 is no longer available and used to cost like 250$. So is it smarter for me to buy g4560 with a 3 year warranty or go scouring ebay and get old stuff that might die on me tomorrow?
The way I see it, I got old 250$ cpu in a new packaging for considerably less, got stuff like usb3 ports, pciex 3.0, nvme support and so on, and it spends a lot less power then that old i5 saving me money. Basically, IPC gets around 10% higher with each new gen, and I simply buy minimum needed and usually upgrade after a gen or two for another minimum. No point in wasting money since I'm just a home user, and a casual gamer, if a gamer anymore at all. Even, or better put, especially, if you are more demanding then me, it makes no sense to go old tech.

 

[Edwired]

Pity the fool lad no point explaining it again so what if we spend more money on old computers have you forgotten the cost of new computers parts these days jeez what lala land are you on?

That like comparing to a honda 50 vs moto gp bike. Where honda 50 maybe slow but fun and very cheap and you live longer. Where the moto gp is more expensive and a way to die quicker and no life insureance will cover you?

 

[FireFox]

I didn't mean it as an insult.

And i didn't take it as an insult, I'm not touchy

but in 2018? It's like buying a 20 year old used audi or mercedes, over some new car. Simply isn't worth it

Remember there are the collectors, some people collects Coins some others Motorbikes, Cars, CDs, Comic Books Trading cards and so on and i Collect Old Hardware.

If you have a specific purpose for that stuff,

Yeap, i am an Xeon/1366/X58 enthusiast - Collector

Back to my old Avatar

 

[Edwired]

And i didn't take it as an insult, I'm not touchy

Remember there are the collectors, some people collects Coins some others Motorbikes, Cars, CDs, Comic Books Trading cards and so on and i Collect Old Hardware.



Yeap, i am an Xeon/1366/X58 enthusiast - Collector

Back to my old Avatar

Well said i agree with knoxx29 100%. As i collect old tonka toys and cds dated back to 1990 and boxes of dinky cars as well. And i have a few collections of sony play stations and games to go along with.

 

[Zyll Goliat]

My G4560 is equall in strength as i5-2500, but comes with all new gizmos on mobo, spends less power and is basically more "atuned" to windows 10 and new softwares in general. Also, it costs only 80$ in my country, while that i5 is no longer available and used to cost like 250$. So is it smarter for me to buy g4560 with a 3 year warranty or go scouring ebay and get old stuff that might die on me tomorrow?
The way I see it, I got old 250$ cpu in a new packaging for considerably less, got stuff like usb3 ports, pciex 3.0, nvme support and so on, and it spends a lot less power then that old i5 saving me money. Basically, IPC gets around 10% higher with each new gen, and I simply buy minimum needed and usually upgrade after a gen or two for another minimum. No point in wasting money since I'm just a home user, and a casual gamer, if a gamer anymore at all. Even, or better put, especially, if you are more demanding then me, it makes no sense to go old tech.

I am not sure IF you are aware how good this (X58/6c)Xeons actually are even by today´s standards?Most of them easily OC on 4+Ghz and in multitasking can "eat"yours G4560,all in all they could be roughly almost 3x faster then your"toy" when it comes to certain apps......And yeah they are good for gaming especially now when games starts to utilize more&more cores/threads.....

Yeap, i am an Xeon/1366/X58 enthusiast - Collector

Back to my old Avatar

The build quality of some X58 mobo´s is OUTSANDING and many of them simply refuse to die even after all this years of continuous torturing......So I totally get you Knoxx29....I am afraid that I could easily become one of those X58 Collectors in near future

 

[Edwired]

Seems dual core cpus are falling behind in modern games today but 4 core 4 thread can keep up with modern graphic card.

 

[Zyll Goliat]

BTW Anyone have the experience with Xeon E5 2670/2680?How good they are for gaming and how much they could OC on good mobo via BCLK?

 

[Edwired]

Some day i will upgrade to one of the asus x58 series board either sabertooth or the maximus

 

[agent_x007]

@Zyll Goliath You can't OC them far (BCLK 125/166/etc. are all "locked").
Only max. turbo on all cores works, but that's 5-10% at best (and if you have a server board, you need to hack it's UEFI to even have that option).
@Edwired And X79 will be next I presume

 

[Edwired]

Well it depends sure list a few motherboards that that can overclock more than 125 bclk. I kinda like the asus boards different colour themes

I had my eye on asus rampage Iii extreme for awhile seen one paired with 8gb and 12gb as paired with i7 920 but price wise it could be next year

 

[Zyll Goliat]

You can't OC them far (BCLK 125MHz is not avaible).
Only max. turbo on all cores works, but that's 5-10% at best (and if you have a server board, you need to hack it's UEFI to even have that option).
@Edwired And X79 will be next I presume

THX....Hmm so all in all what do you think what is better for gaming/streaming/editing 6 core Xeon E5-1650(3930k) that can be OC easily(4+Ghz)or 8 core almost non-OC E5-2680?
P.S.I love all those threads and 20mb of chache on E5-2680 but is that enough?