Xeon Owners Club

[Edwired]

Nothing wrong with that at all always nice to get a freebies. All ya need is disco lights on that hahhaha

 

[lyra]

I really wanted a seasonic one as thats what i use and trust after having a cheapo evga one die on me within a week. Hopefully itll serve my mate well but ill urge him to replace it first out of everything in this ghetto box

 

[Edwired]

Cool how did the evga power supply die? That abit odd that died within a week must be the transistors overheating with a heavy load or the caps swelling can be easily repaired if you know what to look at. I have antec 850w hcg running in my computer as i got it as it was exdisplay for €90 on ebay so far touch wood

 

[lyra]

A week of tomb raider followed by nier automata in 6hr sessions lol. I just got it refunded and spent the little extra on a decent one. Its sad cause a load of channels like tech yes city recommend it as a fantastic budget psu but noooo i wont trust those low end evga psus ever again. I may have got unlucky but that just shows poor quality control.

I didnt pull it apart to see what broke, it would be fine at idle but would die under load.

 

[Edwired]

I wouldnt believe half the words he said on tech yes city videos as he looks like he on something at times.
Ya need to check the evga power supply with dmm for voltage reading and it acceptable to give or take 5% of the voltage value like it could range from 11.8v to 12.3v is good anything below or beyond that is considered power supply is dying

 

[lyra]

Turns out i didnt need a core2duo
Posts with the xeon
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hmmmmm... so i updated the bios on the p5k premium to 1101 from 8020 (or something like that i cant remember what the previous one was) and im still getting an "update bios to unleash full power!" message... also the cpu temp sensor is pinned at 97 degrees as soon as it boots even with 1.09v in it and max fan speed... the top of the cold plate of my cooler isnt even warm so i think its a bug...

halp D: im guessing dodgy CPU with something whack going on with its temp sensor? or could the ihs and die have lost contact over the years? these xeons are soldered arent they?

 

[Edwired]

That just need a microcode update you can find the detail at delidded.com about injecting microcode or one of us to inject the p5k premium biod for you. As the vcore it does boot low but you have to manually set the vcore to meet the intel vid and the temperature is fine and it soldered no worries there once the bios is flashed with an updated microcode everything will work. As im running at 4ghz at 1.208v and temps are below 46c all that on noctua heatsink cant remember which one.

here the bios with xeon microcode for the asus p5k premium

 

[lyra]

Awesome thank you so much. That saves me a chunk of time and stress

 

[Edwired]

Sure let me know how you get on

 

[lyra]

lets give it a go. fingers crossed

 

[Edwired]

lets give it a go. fingers crossed

Any luck yet

 

[lyra]

you beauty!!! it worked perfectly thank you so much

christ 775 is much harder than 1366 D: and i had major nightmares getting my x58 system to work but now looking back that was easy haha. well now i know and its another arrow in my quiver, not that 771 xeons are gonna be very relevant for much longer lol

 

[Edwired]

Your welcome as the asus boards are alot easier to work with than other boards as they have alot more steps and workaround. As i injected 7 of the important microcode that will work with e5450 and x5450 flawless any more xeons is needed as more codes goes in the bigger the bios will be so it have to be the same size

Sure upload bios images of all settings auto, voltages and temp

 

[lyra]

all looks good, vanderpool and c1e are there, ill check cpuid for the instruction sets when i get windows installed. temps are looking okay and so are voltages. this gelid cooler seems a bit bad compared to the one in my main rig tho might not get too much of an overclock out of it

annoying thing was i had to overwrite my win10 key for the bios update and the media creation tool takes aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaageeeeeeeeeeeeeees

 

[Edwired]

Ha yea one thing is disable c1e and intel speedstep so the clock stay full speed during the overclocks. You would want to put the latest windows 10 on a usb that way it there if installing by dvd takes too long you can get windows 10 home and pro keys cheap.

Also do get hwinfo64 for temps and voltage reading as other monitoring softwares read cpu core wrong as the tjmax is 85c not 100c

 

[lyra]

Yeah i know, you gotta do similar things with x58 to stop it dropping clocks as and when it feels like it

 

[Edwired]

How you mean it dropping clocks on x58 board. I notices that on my board when it get busy it will make a small drop in cpu, fsb and ram speed a split second then back full speed

 

[lyra]

I cant remember the name of the setting but it was making my multiplier tank probably as it tried to fight against the high power draw compared to stock. I think it was speedstep. Annoying thing

Also i think i put the usb stick in a 1.0 port... Win10 install is taking for days

 

[Edwired]

As far as i know adia64, hwinfo does the dip in cpu fsb ram speed where prime95 doesnt dip the speed at all. All i can say is make sure all power saving features are disabled and the intel power management in windows is disabled as in windows 7 task manager run cpu full speed then windows 10 task manager state cpu speed fall down to 2.60ghz from 3.70ghz during full load with intel burn test. Fix was to change the intelpmm in the registry from 3 to 4

All c-states should be disabled along with intel speedstep and the multi should be set to max. That should fix that but the newer board have different names for powersaving downclocking and all that other crap

I cant remember the name of the setting but it was making my multiplier tank probably as it tried to fight against the high power draw compared to stock. I think it was speedstep. Annoying thing

Also i think i put the usb stick in a 1.0 port... Win10 install is taking for days

Asus p5k premium dont have usb 1.0 it have 2.0. Are you installing windows 10 on a normal hard drive or ssd? I had to reinstall wlndows 10 only took me half a day with all drivers, updates and software

 

[lyra]

yeah i checked and its usb 2 but damn its slow. i suppose it is slow compared to my raid 0 ssds... but even so, its been like 3 hours now and its at 75% of getting files ready for install D:

 

[Edwired]

You got the need for speed but the windows 10 telling im taking my time installing my way lol next time clone the hard drives faster again

 

[ManGupta]

I am not sure IF you are aware how good this (X58/6c)Xeons actually are even by today´s standards?Most of them easily OC on 4+Ghz and in multitasking can "eat"yours G4560,all in all they could be roughly almost 3x faster then your"toy" when it comes to certain apps......And yeah they are good for gaming especially now when games starts to utilize more&more cores/threads.....


The build quality of some X58 mobo´s is OUTSANDING and many of them simply refuse to die even after all this years of continuous torturing......So I totally get you Knoxx29....I am afraid that I could easily become one of those X58 Collectors in near future

Older but robust system like X58 are pure VFM to its max and as per benchmarks even relevant today ....... also you can use cheap DDR3 (avoiding expensive DDR4 completely). If anyone is concerned about power bill then there are options like X5675 with TDP of 95 Watts. For gaming one can go for higher clock speed 4C/8T X5687 or for multitasking 6C/12T X5680 /90.
For Modern features like USB3/ Sata3/NVME there are always PCIE adapters available.

 

[Zyll Goliat]

Older but robust system like X58 are pure VFM to its max and as per benchmarks even relevant today ....... also you can use cheap DDR3 (avoiding expensive DDR4 completely). If anyone is concerned about power bill then there are options like X5675 with TDP of 95 Watts. For gaming one can go for higher clock speed 4C/8T X5687 or for multitasking 6C/8T X5680 /90.
For Modern features like USB3/ Sata3/NVME there are always PCIE adapters available.

I agree except that when it comes to the OC CPU-TDP spec becomes irrelevant they are only significant if your CPU running on stock speed otherwise when you do OC you are the one that will tweak TDP and when it comes to this 6 core Xeons some of them could be more power hungry then others running on the same clock speed....

 

[ManGupta]

I agree except that when it comes to the OC CPU-TDP spec becomes irrelevant they are only significant if your CPU running on stock speed otherwise when you do OC you are the one that will tweak TDP and when it comes to this 6 core Xeons some of them could be more power hungry then others running on the same clock speed....

Agreed ....... and my statement about power consumption was only directed towards those guys who are hyper about power bills.

BTW there are utube videos that suggest that Intel's TDP spec claims are not all that reliable. My CPU TDP is 130 Watt and I donot Overclock (having Dell system has inherent bottleneck) ..... still Hardware Monitor shows 35 Watts idle but 145 watts on heavy load .... overshooting Intel's claimed TDP of 130 W.

 

[lyra]

TDP doesn't really mean anything anyway. Its supposed to be the amount of heat itll chuck out hence the T for thermal. Also there is no standard way of measuring it and so a 95w intel part will be different, in terms of heat and power, from a 95w amd part.

Its more like a guideline and cooler manufacturers hardly ever say how many watts a cooler can dissipate anyway so its nearly pointless