What will you do after January 14, 2020?

[MrGenius]

I'd put that thing back on XP, unless you have a specific need for 7.

Always XP. I don't own any machines that aren't still running XP in one way or another. Either dual boot with 7, or on a dedicated disk. I'd run XP, 7 and 10 on all of 'em if I could. Why? Because I can...that's why!

 

[moproblems99]

I run windows 10 as well. For those that runs windows 7, will just have to bite it in them and buy a win 10 licence or keep using windows 7 and live with the sicurity risk that will be when update support ends.

Or they can try out linux or something like it or bay a mac/apple product.

You won't have to buy it. You can still activate Win 10 with 7 - 8.1 keys. If they haven't done anything by now then I doubt they will by 2020.

 

[Solaris17]

Lotus 1-2-3

please no, iv left that life behind.

 

[lexluthermiester]

I'd run XP, 7 and 10 on all of 'em if I could.

Actually there is a couple of good platforms that support all three, X58 and X79. A Dell T3500, T5500 or T7500 would work well if you wanted to triple boot. There are of course other systems that can be used.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

 

[hat]

Actually there is a couple of good platforms that support all three, X58 and X79. A Dell T3500, T5500 or T7500 would work well if you wanted to triple boot. There are of course other systems that can be used.

A bit off topic, but I gotta say I'm eyeballing these used workstations. It appears the T7500 is dual CPU? Dual 6 core Xeons would really kick ass for multithreaded workloads (thinking mainly WCG). And they can be found cheap.

I'm still not sure I'd ever buy a new prebuilt system, but the used prebuilt market seems fantastic these days.

 

[Jetster]

Already moved on

 

[Lightning]

I haven't used Windows Update since I installed SP1. The world didn't end.
Now try disabling the updater on 10 and see how long that lasts.

 

[windwhirl]

Well, at home I've been using Windows 10 almost since it launched.

At work, I guess I'll have to start making an essay about why we should consider updating from Windows 7 to Windows 10. I'll need it to convince my boss to pay the licenses required. And until then, harden everything as much as possible without making it too bothersome for the end-users.

Oh and the servers too (Windows Server 2008)...

Another pain in the neck...

And I can't consider Linux due to requiring full compatibility with certain government-issued software (running in all our desktops) and our accounting software (running in some desktops and on the servers), which can't be changed either. All requiring Windows.

LTSC sounds great, but I'm not sure it makes sense for a small organization like us (licensing costs, mostly)... so we'll probably choose the SAC-B with upgrades delayed until the extended support ends...

 

[E-Bear]

Keep complaining about my arthrosis.

 

[ManGupta]

A bit off topic, but I gotta say I'm eyeballing these used workstations. It appears the T7500 is dual CPU? Dual 6 core Xeons would really kick ass for multithreaded workloads (thinking mainly WCG). And they can be found cheap.

I'm still not sure I'd ever buy a new prebuilt system, but the used prebuilt market seems fantastic these days.

If you want more horsepower for your system, you may also consider T7600.

T7600 supports Dual 8C/16T processor + Quad Channel Memory bandwidth Vs T7500 Dual 6C/12T processor + Tripple Channel Memory bandwidth.

However used T7600 may be priced higher giving lesser Price to Performance ratio as compared to T7500/T5500/T3500.
But if you get any good deal, it may be worth going for.

PS- T7600 also supports PCIE 3 & USB 3 Vs T7500 PCDIE 2 & USB 2 (However PCIE USB3 Adapter can enable support for USB3 in T3500/7500/5500)

 

[moproblems99]

A bit off topic, but I gotta say I'm eyeballing these used workstations. It appears the T7500 is dual CPU? Dual 6 core Xeons would really kick ass for multithreaded workloads (thinking mainly WCG). And they can be found cheap.

I'm still not sure I'd ever buy a new prebuilt system, but the used prebuilt market seems fantastic these days.

I have a T3500 that can do dual socket as well but you need to add an extension to it. never did end up using it for what I bought it for.

 

[Assimilator]

FFS why do people in these threads always say "use Linux"? Can I run most games on Linux, no. Can I run Visual Studio on Linux, no. Can I get assf**ked by Linux, probably - but that's not what I use my computer for and I doubt it's what most TPU members do either. So stop pushing an "alternative" that isn't.

 

[FireFox]

Isn't there any rumors about a new Windows ( 11 ) or will they just continue adding features to windows 10?

 

[Assimilator]

Isn't there any rumors about a new Windows ( 11 ) or will they just continue adding features to windows 10?

Win10 is likely to be the last Windows. After that everything will transition to the cloud.

 

[GoldenX]

At some time the marketing team will have to come with a new name for Vista 5.X, the name "Windows 10" will get old eventually.

 

[Caring1]

They chose my Birthday to end an era.

You think you have it bad, they turned mine in to International Women's Day, and they didn't give even give me one on my birthday.

 

[27MaD]

Already switched from Win 7 to the awesome-shitty Win 10 9 months ago , May the best Windows ever die in peace.

 

[Vayra86]

FFS why do people in these threads always say "use Linux"? Can I run most games on Linux, no. Can I run Visual Studio on Linux, no. Can I get assf**ked by Linux, probably - but that's not what I use my computer for and I doubt it's what most TPU members do either. So stop pushing an "alternative" that isn't.

But... but... Linux! Its better because its linux and we all need to go there, even for gaming. Look at all the Linux support pushed by Steam, the largest PC gaming platform in the business. Look at all the market share its gained over the years. I mean, you just need to be using Linux, life will be so much better if it becomes the biggest OS.

In the meantime, in the real world, people are moving away from anything that is complicated and not plug&play

 

[sepheronx]

I have Windows 10 Pro. It is growing on me now as I use it more. I wouldn't mind trying linux again though but its been a long time (Fedora Core 4)

Any suggestions?

 

[P4-630]

Microsoft plans to introduce Extended Security Updates program for Windows 7. It will provide updates until 2023 for a price.

"Windows 7's free support period ends on January 14, 2020. Microsoft is offering three years of support updates for the operating system on a paid basis with a new program called Extended Security Updates (ESU). Unlike previous after-life support options for Windows, which were offered as part of separately negotiated support contracts, the Windows 7 ESU updates will be available to any volume license customer, regardless of size or sales channel.

Pricing for this support has now leaked to Mary Jo Foley. For organizations already subscribing to Windows Enterprise, the first year of updates will cost an additional $25 per device. This doubles to $50 for the second year and $100 for the third year. Organizations can't skip a year, either; previous years must be paid for to obtain the year two and year three support. For companies sticking with Windows 7 Pro instead of subscribing to Windows Enterprise, the first year will cost $50 per device and will double each subsequent year to $100 and then $200.

There's no minimum purchase for the ESU subscriptions, so companies can buy as few as they need. It's not clear if there will be any volume discounts for larger deployments still stuck with the legacy operating system."

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/201...urity-updates-will-double-in-price-each-year/



"With that in mind, today we are announcing that we will offer paid Windows 7 Extended Security Updates (ESU) through January 2023. The Windows 7 ESU will be sold on a per-device basis and the price will increase each year. Windows 7 ESUs will be available to all Windows 7 Professional and Windows 7 Enterprise customers in Volume Licensing "

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/mic.../helping-customers-shift-to-a-modern-desktop/

 

[phill]

I use Windows 10 but I am not a fan. I use it because of programs I need to run but I'm sure there's a MAC/Linux replacement or alternative for them I just don't want to buy a MAC, but I run Linux for my Crunchers and I'm quite tempted to test out a Linux gaming rig.

I wish I had stuck with Windows 7, for me it was one of the best Window's OS's as far as they go.. Sadly though with newer GPUs and such I went with 10 and to my disappointment it wasn't all that it was really cracked up to be for me. Still running 1803 on my gaming rig, it tried updating itself, crapped itself and then rolled back after an hour of my time went out the window...

If I really would like to run another OS, I will simply install it and run it. I've still got 98, XP Pro (32 and 64) and 7 64 Ultimate, for me, these were the best and with older hardware, I'd use this in a heart beat...

 

[EarthDog]

I'm certain there will be some stragglers hanging on for dear life. If it's anything like XP, there will be some back door POS (Point of Sale) version of the OS where they can get security updates intended for a cash register and think it's still secure and hang on..


....or, they'll pay (pro and ent users..not home)...which..yikes in that if you arent a business. Move on to 8/10 AMD change the look. Plenty of people do it for their special reasons.

 

[R-T-B]

Now try disabling the updater on 10 and see how long that lasts.

I've been doing it since day 1 (for update self management).

Should I be expecting something?

Win10 is likely to be the last Windows. After that everything will transition to the cloud.

And you wonder why we advise linux...

 

[64K]

Microsoft plans to introduce Extended Security Updates program for Windows 7. It will provide updates until 2023 for a price.

Curious to know how much that will be.