TPU's F@H Team

phill · May 8, 2019

Sounds like win win right there!!

phill · May 21, 2019

Just wondering guys, is anyone else having some low scoring projects with FAH at all? I'm normally upwards of 2m a day but at the moment, I'm getting less than 800k a day projected.. I just wondered if anyone else could advise or was having the same issues?

mstenholm · May 21, 2019

phill said:
Just wondering guys, is anyone else having some low scoring projects with FAH at all? I'm normally upwards of 2m a day but at the moment, I'm getting less than 800k a day projected.. I just wondered if anyone else could advise or was having the same issues?

Time for HFM.net if you don't have that installed yet. If you run Windows and a mid-high end Nvidia and get a string of 14163-165 you will drop 40%. Interesting Linux like them.

phill · May 21, 2019

I'll get it installed when I get home my good sir

I'm just running two 1080 Ti's for the moment, using the same driver version as I did before, 399.24 I believe it is. I'll take a look when I get home and report back

Thank you @mstenholm

mstenholm · May 21, 2019

phill said:
I'll get it installed when I get home my good sir I'm just running two 1080 Ti's for the moment, using the same driver version as I did before, 399.24 I believe it is. I'll take a look when I get home and report back

Thank you @mstenholm

Could you give me some numbers (WU number and actual PPD)?
I don't have or ever had a 1080 Ti but @thebluebumblebee did run one some times ago. He could tell you what to expect.
I updated my current GPUs PPD in this link.

phill · May 21, 2019

The numbers I have currently for the PC are - 14153, 14177, 14163. The PPD a day is at the moment 724920 from the screen grab I have taken (TeamViewer helps when away from home...) but normally running my PPD is northwards of 2m.. I was just curious

It's at stock clocks as I've not overclocked it at the moment

I can just see one card idling along at 37C (1550 mhz core) and the other is 60c (1949 mhz core) so it's only really using half the second card so I wondered if it was setup correctly... Umm....

thebluebumblebee · May 21, 2019

What are you running on the CPU?

mstenholm · May 21, 2019

phill said:
The numbers I have currently for the PC are - 14153, 14177, 14163. The PPD a day is at the moment 724920 from the screen grab I have taken (TeamViewer helps when away from home...) but normally running my PPD is northwards of 2m.. I was just curious

It's at stock clocks as I've not overclocked it at the moment I can just see one card idling along at 37C (1550 mhz core) and the other is 60c (1949 mhz core) so it's only really using half the second card so I wondered if it was setup correctly... Umm....

We can discuss in PM later when you are back at your desk. Something is not right for sure.

phill · May 21, 2019

thebluebumblebee said:
What are you running on the CPU?

I've got WCG and FAH running at both which has never had the same effect, weirdly.. I'll take a look when I get home if I can and see what I'm getting

thebluebumblebee · May 21, 2019

Are you running F@H on the CPU? We don't recommend that.

mstenholm said:
We can discuss in PM later when you are back at your desk. Something is not right for sure.

~~Do you know there's a discord for that?~~ Well, we did have one.

phill · May 21, 2019

I think it just does that as a matter of course, so I just let it carry on.. If I can delete it, I'll get rid of it as it lowers my average points I get I'm sure :laugh:

mstenholm · May 21, 2019

phill said:
I think it just does that as a matter of course, so I just let it carry on.. If I can delete it, I'll get rid of it as it lowers my average points I get I'm sure

If FahControl set it up for you it would make a CPU instance and a GPU instance regardless if you are running WCG as well. As @thebluebumblebee wrote CPU folding is wasted when you could do WCG. Just leave 1-2 treads for folding on Windows. Config, Slots. delete CPU entry. Have a look in the log for errors.

thebluebumblebee · May 21, 2019

If the GPU's don't have a free thread (or 2 with the high end cards), the PPD will suffer. With my 6700K/GTX 980 Ti, I give WCG 75% of the CPUs and leave the other 2 threads for F@H on the GPU. Some experimentation is often required to see what works best. I watch 2 things, CPU & GPU utilization. I don't want to see 100% on the CPU. I want to see close to 100% on the GPU's.

phill · May 21, 2019

I did think it might have been down to my stock clocked CPU but I can't see it being that much of an issue and thought it was definitely something to do with the setup. It's taken one unit of work 7 to 8 hours to complete which is completely abnormal as I don't remember any taking that long before...

One of the cards are showing - 1556Mhz on the core - 38C 22.x% TDP
The first card is showing - 1961Mhz on the core - 61C 86% TDP

So I'm guessing it's just not being utilitised as much as it should which for me explains the temps... I'm unsure why it's so low because I've only installed the software as I did previously... Same drivers as before as well...
WCG is always clocked at 100% on this system, even with FAH running as well, it never before given me any issues. If this has become an issue, then I'll take another look

thebluebumblebee · May 21, 2019

My first reaction was "It needs a reboot", but the configuration needs addressing too.

mstenholm · May 21, 2019

phill said:
I did think it might have been down to my stock clocked CPU but I can't see it being that much of an issue and thought it was definitely something to do with the setup. It's taken one unit of work 7 to 8 hours to complete which is completely abnormal as I don't remember any taking that long before...

The platform (CPU/PCIe) have a minor influence. I run 11733 on my 4790k@4.4 (PCIe-16 3.0) with a TPF of 45-46 seconds. My similar clocked identical GPU combined with my i7-970@3.7 MHz (PCIe-16 2.0) does it 47-48 seconds. Both have two threads free.

phill · May 21, 2019

thebluebumblebee said:
My first reaction was "It needs a reboot", but the configuration needs addressing too.

That was done this morning when I setup the second card (bit late to work but.... lol) I'll take a look when I get home

Oh the system is an X99 5960X with 2 1080 Ti's, nout very special compared to the folders we have here in the team

Update -

The second GPU has finished his work unit and the PPD shot up to over a 1m but then when a new unit had been downloaded and was ready to start, it never carried on. I'm a little confused as it normally did that automatically. So I've performed a restart and I'm going to see whether or not it's going to sort its life out or not

I'll report back in a mo

Thanks guys for the help

Well that's surprising, it's come up GPU 2 is Unsupported and now will take 5 days to complete a unit lol I'll have a look when I get home after a cycle

Right guys, home at last and with a few restarts in between, here we go

So screen grab of it at the moment...

So one card working and the other just sat idle for some reason... Not sure why as there's a work unit there ready to go but won't start, so off to the log...

Ok, next on to the config of the Client...

Now here's the old config

Now with more luck than judgement, I've changed a few things in the config setup (I thought I'd screen grabbed it before if I'm honest, but.... Now I have for sure!!) and I think we are on the right way forward as we are nearly pushing to 1.5m a day... I think there might have been a bit of a delay and this is why the points have dropped down a little?? I'm new to this so just guessing!!

I've set GPU 1 to GPU 1 as above with number 2...

I'll wait and see....

Oh I've also removed the CPU as well

Just a dumb thought, this works in Linux at all?? I've some RX 480's that might be able to be used a little should this be the case....??

NastyHabits · May 21, 2019

I'm going to be missing in action for a while. My motherboard died. I need to pay the normal freight on my life, then purchase another MB.

thebluebumblebee · May 21, 2019

Which motherboard?

NastyHabits · May 21, 2019

thebluebumblebee said:
Which motherboard?

ASUS B350M-E (Ryzen). My dedicated folding and crunching PC.

mstenholm · May 21, 2019

phill said:
That was done this morning when I setup the second card (bit late to work but.... lol) I'll take a look when I get home Oh the system is an X99 5960X with 2 1080 Ti's, nout very special compared to the folders we have here in the team

Update -

The second GPU has finished his work unit and the PPD shot up to over a 1m but then when a new unit had been downloaded and was ready to start, it never carried on. I'm a little confused as it normally did that automatically. So I've performed a restart and I'm going to see whether or not it's going to sort its life out or not I'll report back in a mo

Thanks guys for the help

Well that's surprising, it's come up GPU 2 is Unsupported and now will take 5 days to complete a unit lol I'll have a look when I get home after a cycle

Right guys, home at last and with a few restarts in between, here we go

I'll wait and see.... Oh I've also removed the CPU as well
Just a dumb thought, this works in Linux at all?? I've some RX 480's that might be able to be used a little should this be the case....??

Last thing fist - yes it works in Linux. Setting it up can be a pain but you gain 10 % in general, for some WU 50 %, 14163 spring to mind for the latter. I wouldn't mix AMD and NVidia in the same rig but it can be done.

So you played with the indexes and got it to work. Normally it shouldn't be necessary in Windows but it clearly was in your case. Be prepared to do the same if you decide to set up a Linux folder.

There are big differences between WUs. When I was folding with a 2060 in my daily rig which have HFM.net installed I saw between 525k to 980k PPD.

The points you are getting now look OK. 13816 is also on the low side for my 2060&2070, 1070&1070ti in Windows (roughly 10% lower than average) . I assume that it was the first 13186 you did and it picked up in points after the 3%.

thebluebumblebee · May 21, 2019

NastyHabits said:
ASUS B350M-E (Ryzen). My dedicated folding and crunching PC.

Fortunately, should still be under warranty.

mstenholm · May 21, 2019

NastyHabits said:
I'm going to be missing in action for a while. My motherboard died. I need to pay the normal freight on my life, then purchase another MB.

Look at the bright side - summer is coming and you don't need the heat plus your next MB will support Ryzen 3000 for sure. Did you OC that CPU sky high or did a friend spill beer into your PC :rolleyes:

. It can't be that old but out of warranty I would guess with the normal 1 year you have in US or am I wrong?

NastyHabits · May 21, 2019

mstenholm said:
Look at the bright side - summer is coming and you don't need the heat plus your next MB will support Ryzen 3000 for sure. Did you OC that CPU sky high or did a friend spill beer into your PC . It can't be that old but out of warranty I would guess with the normal 1 year you have in US or am I wrong?

Nope. Very mild overclock, that it somehow did itself. (From 3 GHz to 3.2 GHz). Of course it's out of warranty.

Besides the expense of a new MB, it's the hassle of wrestling everything back in the case. It did, however, work very well while it lasted.

thebluebumblebee · May 21, 2019

NastyHabits said:
Of course it's out of warranty.

It has a three year warranty, unless you bought it refurbished. Ryzen was introduced in Feb 2017, so it can't be much more than 2 years old.

Edit: I could grab this for you: https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/sop/d/portland-asus-prime-x370-pro/6878770146.html

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Processor	Ryzen Threadripper 3970X
Motherboard	Asus Zenith 2 Extreme Alpha
Cooling	Lots!! Dual GTX 560 rads with D5 pumps for each rad. One rad for each component
Memory	Viper Steel 4 x 16GB DDR4 3600MHz not sure on the timings... Probably still at 2667!! :(
Video Card(s)	Asus Strix 3090 with front and rear active full cover water blocks
Storage	I'm bound to forget something here - 250GB OS, 2 x 1TB NVME, 2 x 1TB SSD, 4TB SSD, 2 x 8TB HD etc...
Display(s)	3 x Dell 27" S2721DGFA @ 7680 x 1440P @ 144Hz or 165Hz - working on it!!
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Power Supply	EVGA 1600W T2
Mouse	Corsair thingy
Keyboard	Razer something or other....
VR HMD	No headset yet
Software	Windows 11 OS... Not a fan!!
Benchmark Scores	I've actually never benched it!! Too busy with WCG and FAH and not gaming! :( :( Not OC'd it!! :(

System Name	Not so complete or overkill - There are others!! Just no room to put! :D
Processor	Ryzen Threadripper 3970X
Motherboard	Asus Zenith 2 Extreme Alpha
Cooling	Lots!! Dual GTX 560 rads with D5 pumps for each rad. One rad for each component
Memory	Viper Steel 4 x 16GB DDR4 3600MHz not sure on the timings... Probably still at 2667!! :(
Video Card(s)	Asus Strix 3090 with front and rear active full cover water blocks
Storage	I'm bound to forget something here - 250GB OS, 2 x 1TB NVME, 2 x 1TB SSD, 4TB SSD, 2 x 8TB HD etc...
Display(s)	3 x Dell 27" S2721DGFA @ 7680 x 1440P @ 144Hz or 165Hz - working on it!!
Case	The big Thermaltake that looks like a Case Mods
Audio Device(s)	Onboard
Power Supply	EVGA 1600W T2
Mouse	Corsair thingy
Keyboard	Razer something or other....
VR HMD	No headset yet
Software	Windows 11 OS... Not a fan!!
Benchmark Scores	I've actually never benched it!! Too busy with WCG and FAH and not gaming! :( :( Not OC'd it!! :(

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System Name	Not so complete or overkill - There are others!! Just no room to put! :D
Processor	Ryzen Threadripper 3970X
Motherboard	Asus Zenith 2 Extreme Alpha
Cooling	Lots!! Dual GTX 560 rads with D5 pumps for each rad. One rad for each component
Memory	Viper Steel 4 x 16GB DDR4 3600MHz not sure on the timings... Probably still at 2667!! :(
Video Card(s)	Asus Strix 3090 with front and rear active full cover water blocks
Storage	I'm bound to forget something here - 250GB OS, 2 x 1TB NVME, 2 x 1TB SSD, 4TB SSD, 2 x 8TB HD etc...
Display(s)	3 x Dell 27" S2721DGFA @ 7680 x 1440P @ 144Hz or 165Hz - working on it!!
Case	The big Thermaltake that looks like a Case Mods
Audio Device(s)	Onboard
Power Supply	EVGA 1600W T2
Mouse	Corsair thingy
Keyboard	Razer something or other....
VR HMD	No headset yet
Software	Windows 11 OS... Not a fan!!
Benchmark Scores	I've actually never benched it!! Too busy with WCG and FAH and not gaming! :( :( Not OC'd it!! :(

System Name	The work PC /2700x/5950x
Processor	3900X stock/ 2700x stock/ 5950x 4200 MHz fixed @ 1,056-1,08V
Motherboard	Gigabyte AORUS Master X570/2xMSI X470 M7 AC
Cooling	Custom WC XSPC RX480, Laing DDC, XSPC Laing DDC Top V3 and EK Velocity/NH15/NH-U12S SE
Memory	32 GB Viper 3600/14 /16 GB Trident Z F4-4000C18D-16GTZSW 3600 /32 GB G Skill Flare CL14 3400
Video Card(s)	2070 Super X MSI/GTX 970 MSI/ GTX 970 MSI
Storage	1 TB SSD+500 GB NVMe / 500 GB SSD/ 2 TB 990 Pro
Display(s)	Dell UltraSharp U2518D/2408WFP
Case	Corsair 800D / Lian test bench/NZXT 500
Power Supply	AX 850 Titanium/AX 860i/AX 760
Software	Dual boot/Win 10 / Linux / Win 10+Linux

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