AMD to Slash Radeon RX 5700 "Navi" Series Prices Ahead of Launch: $399 & $349

[Hardware Geek]

AMD just flipped the bird to Nvidia. Zen 2 is far more important to the long term health of the company and they have secured the next generation of consoles plus Mac pro. I really don't think that they care about the PC gamer nearly as much with those revenue streams already secured. If they can pull off a decent mid tier graphics card that's sells halfway well, that's icing.

 

[I No]

It's not "full RDNA " ? What the hell does that even mean. Where's the full RDNA ?

This subject is severely out of your scope of understanding mate.

Just read the damn article mate, ignore my "scope of understating"

 

[medi01]

with all the attention on 2000 vs 5000, thare is one thing that I would like you guys to notice: take a look at 5700XT vs 1080 Ti

In that area, it's more important when to expect 5800 and 5900.

 

[Vya Domus]

Just read the damn article mate, ignore my "scope of understating"

The one that explains in great detail how you are wrong and this isn't GCN ?

I just want to know where's the full RDNA and how that compares to the half RDNA that we have now.

 

[ZoneDymo]

Im sorry but this just goes for both sides:

"the Radeon RX 5700 XT now reportedly launches at just $399, while the Radeon RX 5700 is priced at $349"

400 bucks, just...400 bucks, its still imo too much.

It imo SHOULD be 350 dollars and 250/300 dollars for the non XT.
(same for the Nvidia cards, it all should come down like 100/150 dollars)

 

[unikin]

What is AMD thinking offering us +$350 GPUs with blowers in 2019? If GPU doesn't have semi passive fan mode, I wouldn't get it even if it free.

 

[Valantar]

I never really understood why AMD is always mandated to put a lower price on their cards compared to the equivalent products from Nvidia.

Because they're behind Nvidia in terms of mindshare (read: all the gamers who have no idea what they're talking about "know" that Nvidia "is better"), and have to make some sort of argument to trump that. It's the curse of the underdog: matching the competition (or even beating them outright) is rarely enough to "win".

Consider Vega 64 and Radeon VII.

Exactly. The VII drops average gaming power by about 10% while increasing average real-world clocks by about 15%. While by no means insignificant, that's not exactly a night-and-day difference (even accounting for the 5-10W draw of the two extra stacks of HBM2).

 

[ValenOne]

- 5700 is not faster than 2060 Super
- If they would've kept the current pricing they would be DOA
- There is no reason for Vega owners to upgrade to Navi since they're basically the same performance wise, making Navi already a tough sell.
- Congrats to AMD for these cards tho, they further cannibalized into that abomination that is RVII
- the 5% less power is hardly an advantage seeing that it's 7nm vs nvidia's inferior node, it's still by all means a power-hog, It's still GCN no matter how much lipstick they put on that pig.
- I really hope they let AIB's put custom cooling solutions on NAVI, their reference cards while looking ok-ish are hot and loud


But alas at least there are options for mid-range.... oh wait that's how it was for the past 3 years now... AMD needs to start competing for the high-end asap, they are funneling potential customers to nvidia with each new gen even if they keep saying that the money is in the mid-range that didn't work out so well for RTG since the RX 480 was out, now that Freesync works with nvidia's line-up it's actually even harder for AMD to make a strong selling point. At the end of the day it's RTG's work at it's finest, release a card, the competition is trashing them, price cut.

NAVI has wave32 compute

GCN has wave64 compute

NV CUDA has wave 32 compute.

NAVI is not GCN.

 

[Mr.Mopar392]

What is AMD thinking offering us +$350 GPUs with blowers in 2019? If GPU doesn't have semi passive fan mode, I wouldn't get it even if it free.

nvidia cards are ugly, amd design is better imo, some us watercool our cards so it's not on issue! their is always aftermarket if you don't like reference.

 

[ShurikN]

Also something noteworthy in that leaked review is that the drivers were not launch ones, overclocking for example was not working.

Im sorry but this just goes for both sides:

"the Radeon RX 5700 XT now reportedly launches at just $399, while the Radeon RX 5700 is priced at $349"

400 bucks, just...400 bucks, its still imo too much.

It imo SHOULD be 350 dollars and 250/300 dollars for the non XT.
(same for the Nvidia cards, it all should come down like 100/150 dollars)

Agreed. The 5700 product stack would look much better at $400-$350-$300. Navi 10 is Polaris successor after all.

 

[londiste]

Exactly. The VII drops average gaming power by about 10% while increasing average real-world clocks by about 15%. While by no means insignificant, that's not exactly a night-and-day difference (even accounting for the 5-10W draw of the two extra stacks of HBM2).

That is a 30% perf/W difference.

 

[unikin]

RTX 2060 = GTX 1060 3GB $350 from $200
RTX 2060S = GTX 1060 6GB $400 from $250
RX 5700 = RX570 $350 from $200
RX 5700XT = RX580 $400 from $250
RX 5700XT/SE = RX590 $450 from $290

You see the the price fixing pattern here? A total rip-off.
DO NOT BUY ANY OF THEM or next gen mid range GPUs will cost north of $450.
AMD and NVidia have joint forces to rob us blind!

 

[z1n0x]

The comment section is breathtaking.
The fanboy wars are quite amusing to watch, should be a TV series.

 

[Deleted member 158293]

RTX 2060 = GTX 1060 3GB $350 from $200
RTX 2060S = GTX 1060 6GB $400 from $250
RX 5700 = RX570 $350 from $200
RX 5700XT = RX580 $400 from $250
RX 5700XT/SE = RX590 $450 from $290

You see the the price fixing pattern here? A total rip-off.
DO NOT BUY ANY OF THEM or next gen mid range GPUs will cost north of $450.
AMD and NVidia have joint forces to rob us blind!

That's effectively normal in an oligopoly type situation (or duopoly in this case). Companies can always claim higher development costs to explain disproportionately rising prices to any regulators (whatever regulators mean anymore).

 

[medi01]

What is AMD thinking offering us +$350 GPUs with blowers in 2019? If GPU doesn't have semi passive fan mode, I wouldn't get it even if it free.

Get on with the blowers already. AIB's will soon roll out own models.

 

[gridracedriver]

I was getting bored and then:

 

[unikin]

That's effectively normal in an oligopoly type situation (or duopoly in this case). Companies can always claim higher development costs to explain disproportionately rising prices to any regulators (whatever regulators mean anymore).

It's only normal in the absence of antitrust laws in US. Look what happened to DDR and SSD prices when China intervened. The same should happen in US but it won't because US legislative and executive branch have no cojones to stand against corporate donor class interests.

 

[medi01]

I was getting bored and then:

And then decided to fake the figures. In your benches 5700 is barely faster than 2060 non super, a far cry from what we have seen so far.

 

[catulitechup]

SUPER™ effect

 

[Hardware Geek]

Regulators is a very generous and frankly inaccurate way to describe them.

 

[gridracedriver]

And then decided to fake the figures. In your benches 5700 is barely faster than 2060 non super, a far cry from what we have seen so far.

it's not my fault on TPU the averages are lower than on other sites
if I had done the same fake media on hardware upgrade bench's, for example, it would have been paired with the 2060super

 

[Nkd]

What is AMD thinking offering us +$350 GPUs with blowers in 2019? If GPU doesn't have semi passive fan mode, I wouldn't get it even if it free.

there is a thing called after market cards. You know. lol They can probably be had at 420-450 for decent one.

 

[Deleted member 158293]

It's only normal in the absence of antitrust laws in US. Look what happened to DDR and SSD prices when China intervened. The same should happen in US but it won't because US legislative and executive branch have no cojones to stand against corporate donor class interests.

Yup, a portion of those profits do get distributed, or donated, to other beneficiary parties. Many systems, starting with the U.S. are built to work this way, which is what is meant by "normal".

 

[Eskimonster]

Intel starts with lowering prizes, then Nvidia screws all RTX folks with Super, and now even before launch AMD is lowering prizes.
I feel the 570x mobo is a way overprized product now, i like it less and less.

 

[unikin]

The only decent buy right now are RX570/580 for 1080p and Vega 56 for 1440p gaming (priced at $120/150 and $260).
2-3 years old GPUs still ruling price/performance chart. Current gaming dGPU market is beyond F...ED UP.