Intel 10th Generation Core "Comet Lake" Lineup Detailed

[Franzen4Real]

what's next ?

dummy lake
cococolo lake
margarita lake
vodka lake
astalavista lake

14nm++++++ ?

Careful, that could end up getting quoted and on the news feed tomorrow.

Who knows, maybe the 10th gen also has an i9 10900BTA... This version disengages your brain, and hardware locks your PC to only allow the functions Ctrl-C and Ctrl-V to work.

 

[Wavetrex]

How come nobody mentioned so far the actual code-name for these CPUs?




Fake Lake.

 

[StrayKAT]

I'm actually surprised. I figured Intel would actually reserve 10th gen for 10nm and throw parades and have a big ceremony sacrificing goats. Instead we get another i7.

 

[ppn]

IF this was real. I would have considered a 10/20 10900KF had Intel retained the 1151 (300) socket. Eff Intel forcing motherboard upgrades.... I'm going to put a 3950X into a B350, and it'll work great. No reason Intel has to do this to consumers.

Comet Lake is a SOC with iPCH. With intel you are going to put this 10900KF on a PCB with no chipset at all. So it will be cheaper as hell, The cost is reduce to a few VRMs DRAM slots and PCB. So why bother with AMD with their fake 7nm that has the real density of 14nm intel.

 

[BoiseTech]

Comet Lake is a SOC with iPCH. With intel you are going to put this 10900KF on a PCB with no chipset at all. So it will be cheaper as hell, The cost is reduce to a few VRMs DRAM slots and PCB. So why bother with AMD with their fake 7nm that has the real density of 14nm intel.

LOL @ thinking an Intel board will be cheap. It just means more margins for mobo OEMs.

 

[ppn]

Nah we will get the Z390 mobo $109 minus $47 for the Z390 and simplified production line. Asuming intel moves the PCH for desktop which I doubt also. But I would like to see this MITX chipseltess niceness. No more margins, the market won't allow it.

 

[trparky]

the market won't allow it.

What? You've got to be kidding here man. There are fools out there that are more than willing to pay upwards of $700 for just a motherboard and you tell me the market won't accept that. Uh-huh, keep telling yourself that.

Case in point...
EVGA Z390 Dark, LGA 1151, Intel Z390, SATA 6GB/s, USB 3.1, M.2, U.2, EATX, Intel Motherboard 131-CS-E399-KR $850
That's just the cost of the motherboard, nothing else. No processor, no RAM, no video card... Just the motherboard and it costs $850!

 

[Aerpoweron]

I am a little confused here. Doesn't SOC (System on a chip) mean that some kind of PCH is already included?

For AM4 on Wikipedia it says:

While the processors for this socket have been designed as systems on a chip (SoC), with the traditional northbridge and southbridge on board the processor, the motherboard chipset will increase the number of PCI Express lanes and other connectivity options. These connectivity options include: NVMe, SATA, and USB 3.1 Gen 2.

from

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socket_AM4#Chipsets

And you could still add more chipsets to the Intel Processor, if you have some kind of link to the outside of the cpu. Assuming this intel update is real, does it finally have more pci-e lanes? AMD now as 24, when you include the ones for the chipset. Intel has 20 since 2008. They just upgraded from PCI-E gen 1 to 3 since then.

 

[TesterAnon]

And they are still selling locked CPUs, real or not its a bad idea.

 

[Kapone33]

What? You've got to be kidding here man. There are fools out there that are more than willing to pay upwards of $700 for just a motherboard and you tell me the market won't accept that. Uh-huh, keep telling yourself that.

Case in point...
EVGA Z390 Dark, LGA 1151, Intel Z390, SATA 6GB/s, USB 3.1, M.2, U.2, EATX, Intel Motherboard 131-CS-E399-KR

Yep some of them are heavily influenced by the tech media so they go and buy a $1800 2080TI to play games at 1080P on a 120hz panel.

 

[trparky]

Proof that a fool and his/her money are soon parted.

Intel can put as much as they possibly could onboard the PCB of the processor and the motherboard makers will still find a way to sell fools $600 motherboards just because they can.

 

[Aerpoweron]

Has anybody noticed on the intel schematics, that the PCI-E lanes are on the PCH not the CPU-Die?

Did some reading and calculating. The OPI is a 4x DMI 3.0 connection. So 4 x 4 PCI-E 3.0 lanes. Which makes it 16 lanes.
Will be interesting to see if you could bottleneck it more easy than a traditional chipset design. Which had 16 lanes from the cpu and 4 lanes from cpu to the chipset.

 

[dirtyferret]

Finally CPUs that can handle Crysis...

 

[Aerpoweron]

Finally CPUs that can handle Crysis...

What do you mean by that? More MHz?

 

[dirtyferret]

I'm actually surprised. I figured Intel would actually reserve 10th gen for 10nm and throw parades and have a big ceremony sacrificing goats. Instead we get another i7.

They will be released on the 10th hour of the 10th day on the 10th month. The goats only come with the limited edition of the CPUs.

What do you mean by that? More MHz?

That after years of suffering PC Gamers will finally have a CPU to game with after Intel releases these 10th series CPU.

 

[ppn]

The cheap MB option will exist for us. 65$ and it just works with any I9. It is Multi chip package, not System on chip yet, but one step away. under the heatspreader MCP is indistinguishable from SOC. But we won't see that for desktop, just mobile, PCH remains on the MB for the time being and every 2nd generation new socket.

 

[trparky]

and every 2nd generation new socket.

The dumb part is that they don't have to do that! It's nothing more than a damn money grab on behalf of both Intel and the motherboard makers. They could easily support a socket and chipset for four years like AMD is doing with the AM4 socket but no, we can't have that in the Intel camp. Why? Because... reasons.

 

[15th Warlock]

what's next ?

dummy lake
cococolo lake
margarita lake
vodka lake
astalavista lake

14nm++++++ ?

Titicaca lake

Also, I hope they come up with a new numeric nomenclature, because those model numbers will be quite the mouthful: "core I nine, ten thousand, nine hundred, kay ef"?

 

[efikkan]

The dumb part is that they don't have to do that! It's nothing more than a damn money grab on behalf of both Intel and the motherboard makers. They could easily support a socket and chipset for four years like AMD is doing with the AM4 socket but no, we can't have that in the Intel camp. Why? Because... reasons.

We know the reasons why Intel have to change the chipset for Comet Lake; higher maximum TDP.
And no, it's not a money grab for Intel, they actually loose money on developing a new short-lived chipset.
But this isn't really a problem for buyers, almost nobody upgrade year after year, those few who do waste their money anyway.

I wish they planned ahead better and had a platform that spanned all revisions of a CPU architecture, but anything beyond that will risk compromising the support and stability. AM4's wide CPU support is no sunshine story, many early adopters already have lost support they were promised, and can we really trust that older hardware combinations get the same level of support going forward? I think there is a better balance somewhere between these two extremes from AMD and Intel.

 

[BoiseTech]

We know the reasons why Intel have to change the chipset for Comet Lake; higher maximum TDP.
And no, it's not a money grab for Intel, they actually loose money on developing a new short-lived chipset.
But this isn't really a problem for buyers, almost nobody upgrade year after year, those few who do waste their money anyway.

I wish they planned ahead better and had a platform that spanned all revisions of a CPU architecture, but anything beyond that will risk compromising the support and stability. AM4's wide CPU support is no sunshine story, many early adopters already have lost support they were promised, and can we really trust that older hardware combinations get the same level of support going forward? I think there is a better balance somewhere between these two extremes from AMD and Intel.

If you process shrink, power savings should follow. They don't need a new socket, and yes it costs them money, but only so they can help out their partner mobo oems. Without OEM's making boards, you aren't going to sell CPUs. Intel does it to make their partners happy regardless of a small "loss" to develop a new socket standard.

 

[AsRock]

Well if fake and would not be surprised that some one or intel have leaked this shit them self's to slow down AMD sales, shit wouldn't be the 1st time now.

 

[Vayra86]

Because when they decided to bump i3's from dual core to quad core (4c/4t) was bullshit too right? What makes this seem out of reach?

Spectre/Meltdown, for one

HT is really not worth a whole lot when Intel itself recommends to turn it off on lots of CPUs. That tech really got a big dent, especially compared to SMT...

In terms of power its not out of reach, the parts aren't new in that sense, really. But don't fool yourself thinking 'the process gets better again'... it just gets rebalanced to fool us one more time. Better get your water chiller ready... Pretty questionable releases, these, and I already had that impression when they did 9th gen... Intel taking things too far, and of course its entirely luck of the draw if you have a half decent chip or a hot one that can barely sustain rated boost without burning a hole in your board. But hey, call yourself lucky that 600+ dollar CPU with a K can at least sustain base clocks! Completely retarded... They had the gall to tell us its better not to OC after all, even Now we know why - except Intel's Turbo is not AMD"s XFR. Its GPU boost all over again, except now Intel's boost is grossly inefficient.

NVM the fact that the source is fake, but when 10th is there, this applies nonetheless

 

[trparky]

they actually loose money on developing a new short-lived chipset.

So this then begs the question... If they lose money on creating new chipsets every time the traffic light at the end of the road turns red, why do it? Build a chipset for at least four years, that should cut down on the R&D and production costs.

Better get your water chiller ready

THIS!!! If you thought that the 9900K ran hot, imagine what it will be with two more cores for a total of ten. I don't even want to think about it.

 

[PanicLake]

Panic Lake is utterly hilarious!

 

[phanbuey]

Panic Lake is utterly hilarious!

Coffin Lake.