RyZen 3000 Boost Issue: What's your take?

[HD64G]

After the video below from Steve over HU, one thing is sure: Some motherboards (the lower than the top-tier MSI mostly) are crap to allow the CPUs to boost properly. Another confirmation of how the board's VRMs affects the CPU boost performance especially for Ryzen 3000.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

Is this weighted, balls laden poll still up, so im either pitch fork in hand at AMD's door or , don't care or a fanboy, great choices.

My 3800X turned up , now im hunting out that pitch fork, the bastard wont do 4.4 never mind 4.5 , im stuck at 4.375, somebody should get fired for this issue jk

 

[xtreemchaos]

at least you wasn't left out like me ive a pitch fork if you want to borrow it but you would have to disengauge it from a few FX chips stuck in the forks.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

at least you wasn't left out like me ive a pitch fork if you want to borrow it but you would have to disengauge it from a few FX chips stuck in the forks.

To be fair , now i have one i do have issues with it's operation, it just ignores pretty much everything I do or set and just does what it wants , day 1 though ,since I did a booboo and had to do a second fresh install late on last night due to a wtaf drive moment ie I unplugged a drive (non Os) it wouldn't boot anymore, I deleted C within a few moments of that due to rage and started from scratch.

 

[xtreemchaos]

I don't really dislike FX chips I love them and there qwirky ways ive one of each for oldtimes sake my fav being the 8350 because in winter it kept me warm.

 

[Deleted member 185158]

I don't really dislike FX chips I love them and there qwirky ways ive one of each for oldtimes sake my fav being the 8350 because in winter it kept me warm.

That's good!! You don't hear many people say that.
My best clock with FX was 7685Mhz on 4+1 VRMs lol.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

I don't really dislike FX chips I love them and there qwirky ways ive one of each for oldtimes sake my fav being the 8350 because in winter it kept me warm.

they were wonderful World community grid crunchers no doubt and definitely warmed my ass a few nights, probably why I'm so defensive of them, people don't see what a gift horse they were /5.5Ghz(a few times early days) ;D

In the process of doing all this updating system BS I hit upon a snag and slight revelation.

obviously even into an existing board, a new arch CPU required a fresh Os install, but upon not getting max boost we got told of the issue, some Are seeing it boost though which is odd and hopeful at least but here's my point

How many did a return to day one from the OS(un optimal) or like me grabbed their trusty win10 usb and just installed nice and easy, but version 1809 not 1903 , while there clearly is an issue , they (AMD)said in some scenarios ,could 1809 be one, it wouldn't have the updated scheduler?

Didn't help me i await bios then:/

 

[londiste]

AMD has pretty consistently said 1903 would be better for Ryzen 3000 series.

 

[Octopuss]

I don't really dislike FX chips I love them and there qwirky ways ive one of each for oldtimes sake my fav being the 8350 because in winter it kept me warm.

Could you rewrite the sentence with proper punctuation and grammar like a man with at least elementary education please? I have no idea what the hell are you trying to say.

 

[xtreemchaos]

Dear Octopuss, I suffer from a brain injury which has left me word blind if you don't believe go on to the stargazer lounge and ask anyone whos been a member for morethan a year or more and thay will back me up. stop being a pompuss ass and get a life .

 

[biffzinker]

Could you rewrite the sentence with proper punctuation and grammar like a man with at least elementary education please? I have no idea what the hell are you trying to say.

He really likes FX and there quirky ways. I've one of each for old times sake. My favorite being the 8350 because in winter, it kept me warm.

 

[xtreemchaos]

7685Mhz on 4+1 VRMs lol.

that's a cracking speed mate, was that lnl ? the best ive had is 5250 on a 360 aio. well done.

gift horse they were /5.5Ghz(a few times early days) ;D

I could not agree with you more. to tell the truth I never really had any complaints about any of the range and it never bother me about how many cores thay had thay gave me good times to remember.
im sure everything will be good with the new zen when the new bios is out.

 

[Octopuss]

He really likes FX and there quirky ways. I've one of each for old times sake. My favorite being the 8350 because in winter, it kept me warm.

I am dying on the inside.

 

[xtreemchaos]

oh mate don't get hung up on words there is so many more important things in life to get miffed about honist. yes im 3rd rate scum but I used to be 4th rate so at least im going forward .

 

[Deleted member 185158]

that's a cracking speed mate, was that lnl ? the best ive had is 5250 on a 360 aio. well done.

Thanks, appreciated!
That was on Ln2...
Highest speed on custom liquid 5.6ghz.
Dice runs getting me in the 6ghz range.
Super fun platform for overclocking.
Even had hyper transport speeds into the 4ghz club actually.

 

[xtreemchaos]

Thanks, appreciated!

your welcome mate. I run my telescope rig in my obsy for 5 years with a 8350 @ 5gzh pre processing images with no problems at all, ive since moved to a 7700k which is a bit faster at processing but dos the job the same, my son in law gave me the 7700k so I couldn't look a gift horse in the mouth. charl. ps I ment Ln2 but it got lost while trying to put it in, darn words thay there my nemesis

 

[Deleted member 185158]

your welcome mate. I run my telescope rig in my obsy for 5 years with a 8350 @ 5gzh pre processing images with no problems at all, ive since moved to a 7700k which is a bit faster at processing but dos the job the same, my son in law gave me the 7700k so I couldn't look a gift horse in the mouth. charl. ps I ment Ln2 but it got lost while trying to put it in, darn words thay there my nemesis

Its ok, I understand you. You do fine.
Ive had a coule Intel chips, but mainly stuck with AMD for the prices. Also theyve always had fsb overclocking which is nice. Now not so much.
My Ryzen at 101 fsb makes errors, wont see HDDs and such. Or if it makes it to windows it wont load.

FX chips Ive had quite a few. The cooler they run, the higher the clocks. The FX chips where only cooling limited.
High leakage chips liked volts and low temps generally overclocked well.

 

[Wavetrex]

How do you guys even change the bus frequency of AM4 chips !?

There is no such option anywhere, either in Bios or in Ryzen Master.
Mine for example shows 99.73 Mhz and it annoys the shit of out me because all the numbers (fclock, uclock, mclock) are all like 78382093.2397 instead of something nice with 000's.

I would very much like to set that to 100.00 ... somehow.

 

[Deleted member 185158]

My Asus ROG B450-I has ALL the options the big boards do.
The chip I have does not like over 100mhz...

I have noticed that if vcore is too low the bus clocks droop compensating for it.
But generally doesnt run the full 100mhz even stock.

Bumping LLC seems to help stabilize it, it does read 100 but usually 99.8mhz.

To compensate, raise multillier up one quarter

 

[TheLostSwede]

How do you guys even change the bus frequency of AM4 chips !?

There is no such option anywhere, either in Bios or in Ryzen Master.
Mine for example shows 99.73 Mhz and it annoys the shit of out me because all the numbers (fclock, uclock, mclock) are all like 78382093.2397 instead of something nice with 000's.

I would very much like to set that to 100.00 ... somehow.

Your board doesn't have it. Some early X370 boards didn't.

 

[Wavetrex]

Your board doesn't have it. Some early X370 boards didn't.

Ah... so it's "optional" and some vendors implemented the setting while others did not.
Well... rats...

Guess I'm slowly but surely on my way to an X570 board.

 

[kapone32]

How do you guys even change the bus frequency of AM4 chips !?

There is no such option anywhere, either in Bios or in Ryzen Master.
Mine for example shows 99.73 Mhz and it annoys the shit of out me because all the numbers (fclock, uclock, mclock) are all like 78382093.2397 instead of something nice with 000's.

I would very much like to set that to 100.00 ... somehow.

You have to get the right board like the Asus Crosshair 7, Gigabyte Gaming 7 or As Rock Taichi (all X470). Your prime board does not have that function built into the BIOS.

 

[Deleted member 185158]

Prime ROG has bus clocks options even on mitx

 

[xrror]

It really is hit or miss which boards have bclk. I used to think it was only the x70 boards but apparently not.

My AsRock AB350M Pro4 gained bclk adjustment after bios 5.00. Granted it's only 100-103 (basically you're just locking the spread spectrum range) but hey, it's something.
Asus ROG Strix B350-F Gaming - nope, NO bclk
Asus ROG Strix B450-F Gaming - yup, has full bclk

I know that's not much a sample size, but it's best to be sure and hopefully there are some other 450 boards out there with confirmed bclk.

That said bclk tended to make my systems get... weird since I run most of my stuff 24/7. Things like USB devices dropping after a few days, or where the machine won't ever restart correctly if you run it more than a day. Windows says "logging off" forever, which is super annoying if say a windows update 3 days ago means you've now lost 3 days of work in distributed computing.

 

[TheLostSwede]

Ah... so it's "optional" and some vendors implemented the setting while others did not.
Well... rats...

Guess I'm slowly but surely on my way to an X570 board.

Not so much optional, as in it was early days and AMD didn't specify it as a requirement, so apart from a few high-end X370, such as the Crosshair VI Hero, not many of them supports adjustable FSB. It doesn't do much, but hey...