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Intel Sourgrapes AMD's Creator Performance Leadership with Laughably Dubious Data

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Hey you're forgetting the laptop, 2-in-1 surveys which I didn't agree to! Pretty sure Intel never bothered reporting they'd collect spy on my application usage :mad:

Next thing you know they'd be selling my personal data ala FB :nutkick:
 
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not surprised at all. :roll:
 
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Get educated, that's not even remotely true.
Intel have had a brand new architecture ready for two years now, just waiting for a suitable node to produce it, and they are also preparing the next one for 2021.

Intel have not been "pissing their pants", been relaxing or whatever. Their fault is in building a strategy where everything relies on a single node being on time, and not having any kind of real "backup plan".
They could have a million architectures ready, it doesn't mean anything when they can't produce them.
 
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The fact Enhanced Sync/Freesync does not work with 144hz freesync monitors on navi gpu's 2 months after launch has put me off to AMD in general. I'm considering Intel 10nm and rtx 3xxx series next summer/fall as my ultimate build that will last me 5-7+ years. I really wanted an all AMD setup, but I just want it to work, I don't want to have to fight software... :/

How elitist. AMD is David and Intel is Goliath; you should expect AMD is improve with increasing speed over time. AMD is giving their all and little shits like you could be starving on the streets or in the slums and intead you're making petty complaints. Be thankful that there is competition again that will grow AMD to be able to appease your petty "demands".
 
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How elitist. AMD is David and Intel is Goliath; you should expect AMD is improve with increasing speed over time. AMD is giving their all and little shits like you could be starving on the streets or in the slums and intead you're making petty complaints. Be thankful that there is competition again that will grow AMD to be able to appease your petty "demands".
I'm still waiting for any proof of his claim. I've read so many reviews and browsed forums for hours and this is the first I've heard of it.

It's an absolute front page news show stopper, yet I've never heard of this bug?
 

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How elitist. AMD is David and Intel is Goliath; you should expect AMD is improve with increasing speed over time. AMD is giving their all and little shits like you could be starving on the streets or in the slums and intead you're making petty complaints. Be thankful that there is competition again that will grow AMD to be able to appease your petty "demands".

sorry for wanting freesync to work??? lol mmk bud welcome to my ignore list
 
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Intel has never HAD to market there products, ever! Intel doesn't advertise, least not like AMD does. Intel has a HELLA a lot of money, I did get a good laugh with these slides!!!!! (I am taking an AMD side here) as Intel Advertising is woe fully hurting, this seems like some guy was forced to make up stuff in a hurry and present slides for it's support.

I must say, the hump is past and the true value of AMD is being shown(4.75)FAILURE! I love that this has garnered 4 pages of venting but it is really only restating what Dino said originally........
 
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on a serious note, Intel don't even need advertisement in the first place when they are still holding the bigger portion of the PC market while the remaining takes up by AMD. For Intel to make this kind of slides shows how low they have stoop just because AMD has managed to get a little bit more of the cake.
 
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Intel's marketing dept is building a nasty rep for themselves. This aligns with the dubious "third-party" benchmarks they took some heat for about a year or so ago as well. AMD has always pushed the limits with their marketing too, and have played games with shady anonymous "leaks" showing overly positive benchmarks prior to releases. But Intel has definitely succumbed to the same temptations. I'd look at any marketing or benchmarks from either of them with a grain of salt. It just increases the importance of info from valid unbiased reviews and benchmarks from proper tech sites.
 

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Intel just need to answer the simple question: Why using its most advanced 10nm process node for the lowest integration 2 or 4-core chips?
 
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Intel's marketing dept is building a nasty rep for themselves. This aligns with the dubious "third-party" benchmarks they took some heat for about a year or so ago as well. AMD has always pushed the limits with their marketing too, and have played games with shady anonymous "leaks" showing overly positive benchmarks prior to releases. But Intel has definitely succumbed to the same temptations. I'd look at any marketing or benchmarks from either of them with a grain of salt. It just increases the importance of info from valid unbiased reviews and benchmarks from proper tech sites.

Principled Technologies

Intel update the Benchmark disclosures again. Last time they updated was Computex 2018. Looks more organized now.

Intel said:
Principled Technologies Benchmark Disclosure: Intel is a sponsor and member of the BenchmarkXPRT* Development Community, and was the major developer of the XPRT* family of benchmarks. Principled Technologies is the publisher of the XPRT* family of benchmarks. You should consult other information and performance tests to assist you in fully evaluating your contemplated purchases.
 
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Maybe the next campaign Intel can do is to start boasting just how much they are faster than AMD at 720p on a 2080 Ti because that is totally what the 2080 Ti userbase would do.
 
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Intel manipulated with test data to discredit Qualcomm! Period! According to Intel's "Configuration Disclosure" slide

On a "Windows without compromise data" slide
Intel compared HP Folio 2-in-1 notebook with Intel Core i7-8500Y CPU vs.
unspecified OEM system with Qualcomm Snapdragon 850 SoC
and
On a "Windows without compromise data part 2" slide
Intel compared unspecified Preproduction Intel system with Intel Core i7-10510Y CPU vs.
unspecified OEM system with Qualcomm Snapdragon 850 SoC

Intel did not provide any details on an OEM system with Qualcomm Snapdragon 8cx SoC at all!

Please take a look at:
Qualcomm Snapdragon 8xx series SoCs vs. Intel CPUs ( VTR-014 )
Published on 10.09.2019
 
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