AMD Agesa ABBA with Boost Clock Fix Tested on Ryzen 3900X

[Turmania]

Is this new bios also available for x470/b450 chipsets as well?

 

[TheLostSwede]

Is this new bios also available for x470/b450 chipsets as well?

It's a BETA update from Gigabyte, but it doesn't look like they've gotten to those boards. Not sure what it's like from other manufacturers. Asus hasn't even released it for their X570 boards yet...

 

[Dragonsmonk]

Good for you, in Ireland we are basically sol, not to mention with Brexit we will practically only be able purchase from Caseking.

Mindfactory also ships
Was my go-to shop when living there.

 

[KRGraphics]

As I'm in the running to purchase a 3950X, this is great newsto read and the results are promising... I'm building a system that will be primarily used for 3d content creation and rendering, and now I hope to see this 4.6GHz boost hit on all cores for programs like Substance Painter, ZBrush, and 3D apps like Modo and Maya

 

[notb]

So the 9900K's power draw was measured at 3.6Ghz?

Why would it be?
Power draw is measured under certain load. Clocks aren't limited.

Kudos to AMD for solving this problem that the board vendors' implementations in the UEFI migtht have created and to our @W1zzard for testing and rectifying that the solution implemented is working perfectly. I wonder what other topic some will find to oppose Zen2 CPUs market conquering. Especially with TR3 incoming with full force...

That's fairly easy: sales and market share
You don't have to be anti-AMD or Intel fanboy to notice that this launch looks pretty much like Zen and Zen+. Still a niche product.

 

[TheLostSwede]

As I'm in the running to purchase a 3950X, this is great newsto read and the results are promising... I'm building a system that will be primarily used for 3d content creation and rendering, and now I hope to see this 4.6GHz boost hit on all cores for programs like Substance Painter, ZBrush, and 3D apps like Modo and Maya

Sorry, but that won't happen. Expect 4-4.2GHz all core boost at the most. The base clock is 3.5GHz, which is 300MHz slower than the 3900X.

https://www.amd.com/en/products/cpu/amd-ryzen-9-3950x

My 3800X boosts to 4.2GHz on all cores and that's about it.

 

[bug]

Is this new bios also available for x470/b450 chipsets as well?

Again, this is not a BIOS. This not UEFI. This is firmware.
Modern OSes can load a newer version on their own if the one on your mobo is stale.

 

[mat9v]

Again, this is not a BIOS. This not UEFI. This is firmware.
Modern OSes can load a newer version on their own if the one on your mobo is stale.

Microcode is something that OS can load and use in place of the one in CPU. AGESA is not microcode, not is SM code that governs boost behavior.

 

[bug]

Microcode is something that OS can load and use in place of the one in CPU. AGESA is not microcode, not is SM code that governs boost behavior.

Ah, my bad. Though now reading more carefully about AGESA, I can only wonder what is has to do with turbo at all (it's supposed to handle just the init). Oh well, more reading is in order...

 

[Gasaraki]

Yeah, a "bug". Amazing how complaints come in and then there's a fix. And part of the fix is raising the temp limit.

 

[HD64G]

Well, if a new AGESA was required, the problem was in firmware. Nothing to do with UEFI and its implementations.

If so, why some had the boost clocks from the start in some boards if the "bug" is related to the firmware only? Me thinks that the new code standardise some things that will work better with the default UEFI settings ingoring what the board vendors do with it. Or anyone thinks that for the ones who boosted as supposed to previously they will also have 100Hz over the previous boost as the ones that were below the advertised clocks?

 

[erocker]

They crying will finally be over..

any news on the 3950x?

September 30th. Probably.... Maybe.

 

[KRGraphics]

Sorry, but that won't happen. Expect 4-4.2GHz all core boost at the most. The base clock is 3.5GHz, which is 300MHz slower than the 3900X.

https://www.amd.com/en/products/cpu/amd-ryzen-9-3950x

My 3800X boosts to 4.2GHz on all cores and that's about it.

I probably won't notice or care as long as my system works as intended and I can do my work. Won't be over clocking unless needed.

 

[MKRonin]

I didn't see the case, fans, and cpu cooler that was used in your test setup table. Could you please list these items?

 

[mahoney]

lol whats up with Power Consumption?

 

[MKRonin]

Microcode is something that OS can load and use in place of the one in CPU. AGESA is not microcode, not is SM code that governs boost behavior.

What do you mean by "not is SM code" ?

 

[turbogear]

It's a BETA update from Gigabyte, but it doesn't look like they've gotten to those boards. Not sure what it's like from other manufacturers. Asus hasn't even released it for their X570 boards yet...

ASUS has also made available the Beta 1.0.0.3ABBA Bios, it is available over here:

[Übersicht] - Ultimative AM4 UEFI/BIOS/AGESA Übersicht

Inhaltsverzeichnis: UEFI Collection | Hersteller Support Links | UEFI Mods | Weiterführende Links Keine weiteren Updates mehr geplant! AM5 UEFI/BIOS/AGESA Übersicht ASRock ASUS Biostar Gigabyte MSI EVGA NZXT B350 B450 B550 X370 X470 X570 B350 B450 B550 X370 X470 X570 B350 B450...

www.hardwareluxx.de

There is a beta version 1001 for my ASUS Crosshair VIII WIFI there.
I have Ryzen 3700x and memory is 16GB G.Skill Trident Z RGB DDR4-3200 CL14.

Everything in bios is at default except for memory set to use D.O.C.P profile.
I have a custom water cooled set. Maximum CPU temperature was in range of 62°C and average in 50°C range during benchmark.

With old bios maximum boost for me was 4317.5MHz. Now with new bios maximum reaches 4392.5MHz.
But as in the previous bios these maximum boost frequencies are for very short time.

I suppose I am not the luckiest with regards to my 3700x sample as I never saw until now boost as high as 4400MHz.


Here are the screenshot during run of CPU Mark:

Here are from run of Cinebench 20 Multi Thread:

 

[Imsochobo]

Yeah, a "bug". Amazing how complaints come in and then there's a fix. And part of the fix is raising the temp limit.

Please check a few tests, no higher temps measured, minor power increase, 25-50mhz more.
no higher voltage either, check out Ie gamers nexus, so far I don't see any evidence of any higher voltage or temperature.

 

[Xuper]

ASUS has also made available the Beta 1.0.0.3ABBA Bios, it is available over here:

[Übersicht] - Ultimative AM4 UEFI/BIOS/AGESA Übersicht

Inhaltsverzeichnis: UEFI Collection | Hersteller Support Links | UEFI Mods | Weiterführende Links Keine weiteren Updates mehr geplant! AM5 UEFI/BIOS/AGESA Übersicht ASRock ASUS Biostar Gigabyte MSI EVGA NZXT B350 B450 B550 X370 X470 X570 B350 B450 B550 X370 X470 X570 B350 B450...

www.hardwareluxx.de

There is a beta version 1001 for my ASUS Crosshair VIII WIFI there.
I have Ryzen 3700x and memory is 16GB G.Skill Trident Z RGB DDR4-3200 CL14.

Everything in bios is at default except for memory set to use D.O.C.P profile.
I have a custom water cooled set. Maximum CPU temperature was in range of 62°C and average in 50°C range during benchmark.

With old bios maximum boost for me was 4317.5MHz. Now with new bios maximum reaches 4392.5MHz.
But as in the previous bios these maximum boost frequencies are for very short time.

I suppose I am not the luckiest with regards to my 3700x sample as I never saw until now boost as high as 4400MHz.


Here are the screenshot during run of CPU Mark:


Here are from run of Cinebench 20 Multi Thread:

If you tweak Your memory timing , CPU will stay on 4400Mhz ?

 

[Anymal]

Are power consumption numbers peaks?

 

[Space Lynx]

Good for you, in Ireland we are basically sol, not to mention with Brexit we will practically only be able purchase from Caseking.

huh? Amazon USA ships globally, direct shipped and sold by USA. you just have to wait awhile for delivery and pay whatever VAT taxes your country has.

 

[Super XP]

Kudos to AMD for solving this problem that the board vendors' implementations in the UEFI migtht have created and to our @W1zzard for testing and rectifying that the solution implemented is working perfectly. I wonder what other topic some will find to oppose Zen2 CPUs market conquering. Especially with TR3 incoming with full force...

Yet Intel wants everybody to hush up on there own malware infestation issues with all there security flawed CPUs.
Meltdown
Secret - Splitting Flaw
Spectre
ZombieLoad
Fallout
RIDL
MDS Attack
etc.,

 

[Athlonite]

It's a BETA update from Gigabyte, but it doesn't look like they've gotten to those boards. Not sure what it's like from other manufacturers. Asus hasn't even released it for their X570 boards yet...

It's available for the Asus Tuf x470 Plus - Gaming ..... Old BIOS ver: 5204 New BIOS ver: 5216 + AGESA 1003abba

 

[notb]

Yet Intel wants everybody to hush up on there own malware infestation issues with all there security flawed CPUs.

Man, you're like those people who read something unfavourable about politicians and then keep repeating it for years.
You still don't know how these vulnerabilities work, you don't care if they concern brands other than Intel.
You just like to mention this. Right?

There are many threads about this matter and many threads about Intel. Why here...?

 

[Athlonite]

Man, you're like those people who read something unfavourable about politicians and then keep repeating it for years.
You still don't know how these vulnerabilities work, you don't care if they concern brands other than Intel.
You just like to mention this. Right?

There are many threads about this matter and many threads about Intel. Why here...?

you were a lot politer than I was going to be