TPU's Nostalgic Hardware Club

[buzzi]

Just thought I'd stop by today & wish you guys a happy, fully compliant, non-corrupt & long-term upgradeable...






Brought to you by yours truly,


Seriously though guys, have a good one!

I am terribly more than 11 months late and sorry for the bump, but damn that was really cool! Reminds me of "slayer" font, hope you enjoyed this 2019 my friend

 

[Trekkie4]

I am terribly more than 11 months late and sorry for the bump, but damn that was really cool! Reminds me of "slayer" font, hope you enjoyed this 2019 my friend

Ha-ha, you could have just waited for a month or two longer, as I'll probably re-post something similar

Joke aside, it's been a terrible year for me, but thanks for the kind wishes, nevertheless. Apart from money trouble (and member of my family having a serious surgery), a close friend of mine was diagnosed with breast cancer. Even now, 10 months later it is still on-going fight but things are looking up ... or so I'd like to think anyway. As for the money issues, I'm hoping to sell approx. 1/3 of my retro collection some time soon. Didn't want to talk about it yet (figured I'd wait for a month or two longer), but yes - most of my retro collectibles (featured in this topic) are up for sale. Which is a good thing IMO, because I really need to clean up my room & hopefully start fresh in 2020!

 

[buzzi]

Oh, that's a lot of bad news I'd like to see your collection still in your hands. I hope they will be sold to someone who will take care of them like you did.

 

[Trekkie4]

True. As I recently told my friend, 2019 officially "sucks". So it is pretty reasonable on my behalf to have high(er) expectations for upcoming 2020.

And yes, my collection will be sold to a fellow forumer (and hw collector), from another (and local) forum. Don't worry though, I'm planning to keep at least "one of each" models. I've reached the point where I had more than 40 machines laying around, not to mention separate (read: extra) parts. With all of those together, the entire amount would probably reach 50 or more. So I really do need to clean up, and having some extra cash to spend is always a good thing

 

[candle_86]

Finally started working on this, just need a few cables and software
939 + Nvidia 8800GTX

Your going to need better airflow, I had one in a centurion 5 back in 2010 and it constantly ran at 100c, I'd strongly suggest getting a better casr

 

[Trekkie4]

Here's a random thought that's been bugging me for ages... How come no one, and I really DO mean no one came up with simple (rubber?) pipe, to allow the CPU air intake from the outside? Just a simple, flexible pipe with either 80x80 or 120x120 terminals on each end, so that you can mount it onto the fan and/or fan grill.

 

[candle_86]

Here's a random thought that's been bugging me for ages... How come no one, and I really DO mean no one came up with simple (rubber?) pipe, to allow the CPU air intake from the outside? Just a simple, flexible pipe with either 80x80 or 120x120 terminals on each end, so that you can mount it onto the fan and/or fan grill.

They did, look at server ducting, it's not really needed except by large data clusters but I've seen it a few times.

 

[Trekkie4]

You're right. But I was referring to "consumer use", especially on tower design heatsinks. It would make sense to have the external intake going into the heatsink & then another pipe, exhaust leading outside. That way the heat generated by the CPU would be minimal & wouldn't affect other components as much.

 

[biffzinker]

Here's a random thought that's been bugging me for ages... How come no one, and I really DO mean no one came up with simple (rubber?) pipe, to allow the CPU air intake from the outside? Just a simple, flexible pipe with either 80x80 or 120x120 terminals on each end, so that you can mount it onto the fan and/or fan grill.

Some people have used a dryer duct with the rear exhaust opening on the case for cooler air to the CPU.

 

[The Egg]

Here's a random thought that's been bugging me for ages... How come no one, and I really DO mean no one came up with simple (rubber?) pipe, to allow the CPU air intake from the outside? Just a simple, flexible pipe with either 80x80 or 120x120 terminals on each end, so that you can mount it onto the fan and/or fan grill.

I used several Antec cases in the mid-00's which had an adjustable plastic air duct attached to the side panel. You would then pull the duct down and directly over the CPU cooler (it was bell-shaped at the end). Not a direct connection, but still pretty good. They seemed to fall out of favor as most CPU coolers transitioned from downward-firing to horizontal airflow.

I've also seen the plastic/vinyl dryer ducting used in custom work, as mentioned by biffzinker.

 

[Grog6]

This is not a bad idea; the computer will bring the outside air up to close enough to ambient so as to not be a load on the house's heating system.



A fan in the duct to provide positive pressure, and keep it moving along would make this hella efficient.

Some of you guys have Real Winter; -30C air would make for a hell of an overclock!

I'll see 30F here mostly; IDK if that gives me much at all.

 

[hat]

There's definitely some imaginative cooling solutions one could come up with, given enough time and effort. I'd be afraid of condensation, though, if I were using ductwork to feed in cold winter air to the case.

I feel like a more fun, but definitely more daft idea would be to create a custom water loop featuring a big reservoir that sits outside in the cold. Or, how about a garage with an oldschool radiator heater for your rad?

 

[Jetster]

Here's a random thought that's been bugging me for ages... How come no one, and I really DO mean no one came up with simple (rubber?) pipe, to allow the CPU air intake from the outside? Just a simple, flexible pipe with either 80x80 or 120x120 terminals on each end, so that you can mount it onto the fan and/or fan grill.

Its been done. Dryer duct, rubber hose, pvc

lol

Your going to need better airflow, I had one in a centurion 5 back in 2010 and it constantly ran at 100c, I'd strongly suggest getting a better casr

I'll fix that, the case is staying i think. Its part of the nostalgia. Maybe a fan on the side bigger than 80mm that is there

 

[AsRock]

I received some some cool (and most importantly, vintage) stuff, from a fellow forumer. Think I should probably let the pictures do all the talking...

Soyo SY-6BA+III

At first it didn't want to post, and almost ended up in waste bin. Not really sure what is going on here, but eventually it powered up fine & POSTed as expected. If I'd have to guess, I'd say the board is having cap issue(s), except they all appear to be fine *shrug*


This one was quite a mystery... After loads of Googling (random numbers & codes, from the PCB) it turned out to be a Siemens board. Weird one, but eventually tested OK!


Yet another Socket 7 board ... except this one comes with pretty cool (and I would even dare to say unique) IBM processor - 6x86. So now I got all the "x86" models, except for earliest 2x86 & 3x86



Teac 5.25" floppy drive ... this one will most definitely come in handy at some point!


Followed by this server back-up unit. It has a tape deck, which (to be completely honest) I've never seen before in my life. Unfortunately, the pinch roller (which drives the tape, pulls it across the head) seems to be shot and it even melted into a goo. Which will no doubt require some serious cleaning. Not sure about the replacement, something tells me that spare parts for this thing will be impossible to find!


Also received this S775 Gigabyte board. At first glance it seemed to be OK, but then I found one of the two BIOS chips wedged inside the PCI slot. The other chip was apparently de-soldered at some point & then re-attached. Don't know why, but eventually I'll give it a try to see if it boots up or not.


Speaking of 4x86 gear, this here is an old 4x86 board. I was surprised to see the unusual, even obsolete socket choice for this kind of board (since most of the other boards already had a ZIF one at this point) so I'm not sure how is this going to work out, especially without any cooling, heatsink on top. But either way, it's here & will most likely come in handy. Now I have a perfect excuse to build yet another 4x86 machine!


Unknown ISA controller card. The parallel port controller looks familiar, but there appears to be more than just your average COM port controller. I'd appreciate any insight on this card!

OMG not a IBM 150, geeze even back then it was a piece of crap, built my 1st new pc with that thing. although price was much cheaper and was about the time the AND fun began too

 

[Grog6]

There's definitely some imaginative cooling solutions one could come up with, given enough time and effort. I'd be afraid of condensation, though, if I were using ductwork to feed in cold winter air to the case.

I feel like a more fun, but definitely more daft idea would be to create a custom water loop featuring a big reservoir that sits outside in the cold. Or, how about a garage with an oldschool radiator heater for your rad?

The water loop is a great idea, with proper antifreeze for our northern friends.

Don't dismiss outside air, tho; cold air holds less water vapor than warm air, and condensation happens at the coldest point in the system.
You ARE taking in moisture; but the water in the air will condense where it condenses now; either on a window pane, or the bathroom pipes.

It won't condense on something 30 or 40 degrees hotter than it is.

Some very smart people I worked with were amazed when adding 50F to the ambient made the humidity go down to where your sinuses would crack and bleed; it's obvious when you look at the partial pressure of water vapor over temperature.

I learned partial pressure working with vacuum; as long as there's water in a vacuum system, it will never go below 150millitorr, lol.
That's the pressure side of PV=nRT; the Temperature side it the more common side.

We made a desert in a room full of ovens, basically.
If you left the door into the offices section open, all the office plants would desiccate in an hour or two, lol.
They replaced them with plastic/silk plants, and no one noticed, lol.

 

[buzzi]

True. As I recently told my friend, 2019 officially "sucks". So it is pretty reasonable on my behalf to have high(er) expectations for upcoming 2020.

And yes, my collection will be sold to a fellow forumer (and hw collector), from another (and local) forum. Don't worry though, I'm planning to keep at least "one of each" models. I've reached the point where I had more than 40 machines laying around, not to mention separate (read: extra) parts. With all of those together, the entire amount would probably reach 50 or more. So I really do need to clean up, and having some extra cash to spend is always a good thing

Man with that number you could open a retro-museum

 

[Jetster]

I need a IDE beige DVD ROM. Anyone want to trade something ?

 

[Trekkie4]

Man with that number you could open a retro-museum

Wish I could ... unfortunately, I live in the apt. building, so it would be very difficult to pull it off. Besides, not many people around here seem to show the same interest(s), in retro/vintage hardware as I do. Part of the reason why I managed to grab all those cool & rare components for nothing

Its been done. Dryer duct, rubber hose, pvc

lol

I'll fix that, the case is staying i think. Its part of the nostalgia. Maybe a fan on the side bigger than 80mm that is there

It reminds me of this song here...

OMG not a IBM 150, geeze even back then it was a piece of crap, built my 1st new pc with that thing. although price was much cheaper and was about the time the AND fun began too

That 6x86 reminds me of AMD's 5x86 ... I got two of them. Comparing to a genuine Pentium, it really is a "piece of crap" as you say, as it struggles to keep up with even the basic operations. With that being said, I find it unusual & "cool", it is something that you don't get to see every day. And that's what all this is about, finding rare parts, assembling them together & getting them to work (again!)

 

[TOMCAT]

Here's a random thought that's been bugging me for ages... How come no one, and I really DO mean no one came up with simple (rubber?) pipe, to allow the CPU air intake from the outside? Just a simple, flexible pipe with either 80x80 or 120x120 terminals on each end, so that you can mount it onto the fan and/or fan grill.

Late as always, but do you mean such stuff?



These kits had in my opinion two major issues: First of all it makes the computer often more noisy, second (you can guess it on the thumbs) "How to close the case with installed graphics card?"

I bought one of these tunnel kits (must be ~2003) and try it in several cases, best result was graphic card cooling in a chieftec Dragon case. Just blow fresh air from the front to a passiv HD3870.

Ohhh, found an low profile card under the "Tunnel-Kit" box.

 

[Trekkie4]

Late as always, but do you mean such stuff?

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These kits had in my opinion two major issues: First of all it makes the computer often more noisy, second (you can guess it on the thumbs) "How to close the case with installed graphics card?"

I bought one of these tunnel kits (must be ~2003) and try it in several cases, best result was graphic card cooling in a chieftec Dragon case. Just blow fresh air from the front to a passiv HD3870.

Ohhh, found an low profile card under the "Tunnel-Kit" box.

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EXACTLY, yeah! Wow, didn't know these things existed... But why bother extending the pipe all the way to the front panel? It would be so much easier to route it sideways, or down below.

 

[candle_86]

That old kit is kinda funny though, back in 2003 front fans didn't do much with a solid price of plastic in the way

 

[erek]

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VIPERMAX (IAX-VIPER10). The last of the famous Ultrasound series of which not many have been produced, this very hard to find card features an. The card has been tested in DOS and Windows 98 and is in.

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[candle_86]

Today is a sad day, the fan on my axp 3200 died, it over heated playing cnc generals, I had to put in my axp 2800 so at least the board survived, I guess I need to invest in some new 40mm fans

 

[Ruru]

I used several Antec cases in the mid-00's which had an adjustable plastic air duct attached to the side panel. You would then pull the duct down and directly over the CPU cooler (it was bell-shaped at the end). Not a direct connection, but still pretty good. They seemed to fall out of favor as most CPU coolers transitioned from downward-firing to horizontal airflow.

I've also seen the plastic/vinyl dryer ducting used in custom work, as mentioned by biffzinker.

I had one back in the day (Antec SLK3000B) which had such a duct. In fact I put a 80mm fan between the side panel and the duct, for a better intake to the CPU cooler. I had several builds (S478, LGA 775 both Pentium D and C2D, Socket A, S754 and S939) in it and most of those did benefit from the better intake. When I had it (IIRC I got it in late 2006) it was a pretty damn fine case for its price (50 euros).

Today is a sad day, the fan on my axp 3200 died, it over heated playing cnc generals, I had to put in my axp 2800 so at least the board survived, I guess I need to invest in some new 40mm fans

Wait, it didn't have over temperature protection?

 

[Jism]

The socket A chips had some issues related to heatsinks failing, lol.