TPU's Nostalgic Hardware Club

[Ruru]

Have fun tesing; that looks like a cool project.

To be honest, I want to fullfill my dream which is to benchmark a HD 4890 CF 1GHz

My nostalgia goes back to 10 years ago, I had a reference HD 4890 which clocked 1040MHz

 

[biffzinker]

Bonus tuesday video from Phil.

 

[Trekkie4]

PCIe... Is THAT what people refer to as "Retro Gaming", nowdays?! What happened to Socket 5, 7, 370, 462 & Slot-1?

 

[lexluthermiester]

PCIe... Is THAT what people refer to as "Retro Gaming", nowdays?! What happened to Socket 5, 7, 370, 472 & Slot-1?

To be fair, PCIe has been around for almost 15years now. In that time we have gone from 1600x1200 to 3840x2160 in upper range display resolutions, dual core to 64 core CPU's, and 512MB ram standard to 16GB ram standard. PCIe has seen the industry through a great deal of monumental changes.

 

[Trekkie4]

Meh... Whatever. I'm still using two of my Q6600 builds (with nVidia 8800GT & GTX 760) for every-day purposes, and didn't have a single reason to upgrade ... I still don't. I'm not saying S775 platform isn't old, but it feels wrong to use something as modern & current for retro-gaming purposes. You'd be much better with S754 or S478 build instead. Which are still not my idea of retro gaming, at least IMHO.

 

[Apocalypsee]

Meh... Whatever. I'm still using two of my Q6600 builds (with nVidia 8800GT & GTX 760) for every-day purposes, and didn't have a single reason to upgrade ... I still don't. I'm not saying S775 platform isn't old, but it feels wrong to use something as modern & current for retro-gaming purposes. You'd be much better with S754 or S478 build instead. Which are still not my idea of retro gaming, at least IMHO.

Agreed. It feels better using period correct hardware when playing the games of its time.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Meh... Whatever. I'm still using two of my Q6600 builds (with nVidia 8800GT & GTX 760) for every-day purposes, and didn't have a single reason to upgrade ... I still don't.

I meant no offense. Useful is useful. Still, that hardware is very dated and such fit very well into this thread.

 

[Trekkie4]

I meant no offense. Useful is useful. Still, that hardware is very dated and such fit very well into this thread.

It's all good, I never saw your statement as offensive. I just don't share the same opinion, that's all.

I miss the old(er) days, when people talked about obsolete stuff, and not necessarily old hardware. After all, Core i7 series is now getting seriously old, but it is still very much in production & represents the "flagship" of what Intel has to offer. Some of you will point out how Intel released several new versions, production series but to me Core i7 is i7 ... whenever we talk about current gen or the one from 10 years ago. Performance-wise, things hadn't changed much since then. Which is mainly the reason why I'm still running Q6600 in 2019, when you pair it with 8GB of DDR2 and serious video card, you get a modern (and very much capable) unit, that's capable of running just about every single app or game you throw at it. BeamNG Drive for example, I've been playing the heck out of this game & it never gave me any problems or serious lags on Q6600

 

[biffzinker]

PCIe... Is THAT what people refer to as "Retro Gaming", nowdays?!

I only posted the video for the earlier version of Crossfire, and Nvidia's SLI in the context of retro gaming. No one is bothering with Crossfire/SLI on modern hardware. I didn't think anyone would mind what the adapter interface was, and the Chinese made motherboad is using repurposed X79 chipsets. Intel's Sandy Bridge/Ivy Bridge are way back there in retro hardware as well.

 

[Trekkie4]

I only posted the video for the earlier version of Crossfire, and Nvidia's SLI in the context of retro gaming. No one is bothering with Crossfire/SLI on modern hardware. I didn't think anyone would mind what the adapter interface was, and the Chinese made motherboad is using repurposed X79 chipsets. Intel's Sandy Bridge/Ivy Bridge are way back there in retro hardware as well.

Right, I understand. It wasn't aimed at you directly, I was just shocked (and disappointed) to see someone making a video where PCIe is being used (and described) as "retro gaming".

 

[Dinnercore]

Found some more DDR2 for my growing collection of Crucial Ballistix Tracer RAM:

I really like them, not just for the unique LED feature but they tend to OC well too.
6€ incl. shipping.

 

[Jetster]

Anyone interested? Make an offer

 

[lexluthermiester]

Anyone interested? Make an offer

I had that card once! Good card for it's time!

 

[Apocalypsee]

If you read my review on 'tech related purchase' you should know I bought new laptop, choosing between Alienware M17X R4 or Dell Precision M4700, I bought the latter. There is an interesting story at when I met the guy who sold the Alienware.

We chat quite some time at his house and later he reveal that he have some old hardware that was unneeded, he put a sale thread but no takers for quite some time. So I say I take it, for free! These are what I got; two LGA775 CPU Pentium E5400 and Core2Duo E6750, dead socket AM2 motherboard with Athlon 64 5000, a couple of DDR2 667 1GB, single 512MB DDR400 and three 128MB PC133 SDRAM.

And today he text me saying there is a few more hardware that I can have from his office. From the picture he gave me, the card could be HP AGP TNT2 either the Pro version or highly likely TNT2 M64, and an unknown Socket 478 system.

 

[lexluthermiester]

If you read my review on 'tech related purchase' you should know I bought new laptop, choosing between Alienware M17X R4 or Dell Precision M4700, I bought the latter. There is an interesting story at when I met the guy who sold the Alienware.

We chat quite some time at his house and later he reveal that he have some old hardware that was unneeded, he put a sale thread but no takers for quite some time. So I say I take it, for free! These are what I got; two LGA775 CPU Pentium E5400 and Core2Duo E6750, dead socket AM2 motherboard with Athlon 64 5000, a couple of DDR2 667 1GB, single 512MB DDR400 and three 128MB PC133 SDRAM.

And today he text me saying there is a few more hardware that I can have from his office. From the picture he gave me, the card could be HP AGP TNT2 either the Pro version or highly likely TNT2 M64, and an unknown Socket 478 system.

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Nice. Did he tell you what you'll get?

 

[Robert B]

Got me some of these from my last flea market visit.

The flea market P35 is coming along nicely. I also found a 1kg CPU cooler who needed a lot of nursing back to health.

 

[MaxiPro800]

Got a Epox EP-8RDA3I w/ Evercool HSF (a shame it's loud, as it looks cool) and a AXP 1700+ (T-Bred). POSTs fine, although the J.D caps near the CPU bother me greatly, albeit being m-f'd in 2011, so it's gonna be fully recapped anyways.

I'm pretty sure this is one of the best OC-ers, up there with the Soltek SL-75FRN2, ASUS A7N8X-E Deluxe, and the Gigabyte GA-7NNXP.

I still wait for the day I'll get a SL-75FRN2 (the golden variant) for cheap (I have PLENTY of Bartons, so that'd be the least of my problems) and recap it. Paired with a 3D Prophet 9700 Pro 128M, this would make a killer Skt.A machine.

 

[Apocalypsee]

Nice. Did he tell you what you'll get?

He isn't really tech savvy to know the parts so the only way of knowing is for me to be there and get it

 

[lexluthermiester]

Got me some of these from my last flea market visit.

The flea market P35 is coming along nicely. I also found a 1kg CPU cooler who needed a lot of nursing back to health.

Nice! 4-4-4-12 DDR2-800. AFAIK, the best timings you can get for the type of RAM.

although the J.D caps near the CPU bother me greatly

Those caps "look" alright. Are they leaking? Far be it for me to discourage you doing a recap job, but then there is the old saying, "if it's not broken don't fix it".

He isn't really tech savvy to know the parts so the only way of knowing is for me to be there and get it

Still, let us know what you get.

 

[MaxiPro800]

Those caps "look" alright. Are they leaking? Far be it for me to discourage you doing a recap job, but then there is the old saying, "if it's not broken don't fix it".

As alright as they might look, they're of crap quality. I'd rather have it recapped with Rubycon/Panasonic/Sanyo/UCC by myself and OC it up to the sky rather than roll with low-quality chinese caps.

 

[lexluthermiester]

As alright as they might look, they're of crap quality. I'd rather have it recapped with Rubycon/Panasonic/Sanyo/UCC by myself and OC it up to the sky rather than roll with low-quality chinese caps.

Good point.

 

[MaxiPro800]

Good point.

Yeah, especially since I have some good PSUs (Modecom, Allied [all recapped too, and even upgraded where possible]) and a pretty good GPU to pair it up with.

I guess these would make for a good Skt 462 machine:
-400W Modecom (recapped with Rubycon caps)
-3D Prophet Radeon 9700 PRO 128MB (just need to find a good copper heatsink)
-80GB Seagate IDE HDD (board doesn't have SATA)
-JNC FQ-70 case w/ plexiglass and RGBY (Y = yellow) fan

 

[lexluthermiester]

Yeah, especially since I have some good PSUs (Modecom, Allied [all recapped too, and even upgraded where possible]) and a pretty good GPU to pair it up with.

I guess these would make for a good Skt 462 machine:
-400W Modecom (recapped with Rubycon caps)
-3D Prophet Radeon 9700 PRO 128MB (just need to find a good copper heatsink)
-80GB Seagate IDE HDD (board doesn't have SATA)
-JNC FQ-70 case w/ plexiglass and RGBY (Y = yellow) fan

Very nice! I would add a SoundBlaster Live or X-Fi to that system, but that's just personal preference.. Additionally, you may want to look into a CompactFlash to IDE adaptor and get a 64GB CompactFlash card to use as a HDD. Access times will be faster and more consistent, and you will not have to worry about the HDD failing anytime soon.

 

[MaxiPro800]

Very nice! I would add a SoundBlaster Live or X-Fi to that system, but that's just personal preference.. Additionally, you may want to look into a CompactFlash to IDE adaptor and get a 64GB CompactFlash card to use as a HDD. Access times will be faster and more consistent, and you will not have to worry about the HDD failing anytime soon.

The 80GB drives I use were very rarely used, so I would the least worry about failing soon. That Seagate came from another AXP machine I dismantled (GA-7N400-L) and the last access date was somewhere in 2007-8. Still checks fine in HD Sentinel.

As for the X-Fi, I feel like that would be too new, and the only one I have is in use on my main PC (GB EP45T-DS3R/Q9400/8GB DDR3/1TB/Win10Enterprise LTSC) so I only have the Audigy SE left.

My 2 builds that I will look into making are this Socket 462, and another one which will likely be a AM3 Athlon (or Phenom, depending on which I can find) with a 8400GS (G98 core, much cooler)

 

[lexluthermiester]

As for the X-Fi, I feel like that would be too new

Fair enough. The X-fi was released in 2005. So you're right, an Audigy or Audigy2 would be more period correct. Your Audigy SE would be a perfect fit.