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Right... so it wont work as a primary GPU (code 43) but if its the SECONDARY (IGP set as primary) it works fine?

how odd
 

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You're still getting the code 43 error?

When the GPU is installed but i'm booting off the IGP as the primary, i can switch to the 780 and it works fine.

However if the 780 is the primary GPU in any system, its code 43. It's rather strange.
 
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When the GPU is installed but i'm booting off the IGP as the primary, i can switch to the 780 and it works fine.

However if the 780 is the primary GPU in any system, its code 43. It's rather strange.
Interesting. That was the original error you were having wasn't it?
 

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Interesting. That was the original error you were having wasn't it?

at first it would seem working and black screen on 3D, then i got errors loading games, then i got code 43.
I'm trying a BIOS flash, but i get subsystem ID mismatch on all the ones i've found (windforce 780OC) - and the giga utility to flash the BIOSes doesnt load
 
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at first it would seem working and black screen on 3D, then i got errors loading games, then i got code 43.
I'm trying a BIOS flash, but i get subsystem ID mismatch on all the ones i've found (windforce 780OC) - and the giga utility to flash the BIOSes doesnt load
Damn, I thought reflowing it would help.
 
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The flux probably didn’t make it all the way into middle BGA contacts of the GPU.
 
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The flux probably didn’t make it all the way into middle BGA contacts of the GPU.
I was thinking that after looking at the pictures of it being applied. I looks like there might have been air pocket trapped under the die.

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Feel like one more go in the oven? If so, clean the board off completely with 90%+ IPA and then apply the flux, generously, on just two ajoining sides of the GPU die. This will allow the flux to "soak" in under the die as the heat melts it. It's important to keep the board perfectly flat though. What do you have to loose really...
 

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i'll give it another shot when i'm bored, sure
 
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We'll be all looking forwards to the results of such silliness @Mussels
 
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We'll be all looking forwards to the results of such silliness @Mussels
Not silliness. Reflowing does work. It's a service I provide to clients and it works much more often than it doesn't. I've permemanantly revived XB360's, PS3's and the infamous NVidia laptop GPU's. The key is understanding the problem, using the proper tools & supplies, using the right methods and having patience.
 
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the silliness is my total lack of concern for doing the job properly the first time.
 
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the silliness is my total lack of concern for doing the job properly the first time.
Would I be mistaken expecting the same lack of concern on the second and third attempts?
 

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Would I be mistaken expecting the same lack of concern on the second and third attempts?

the less i care, the more entertaining it gets.
 
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Not silliness. Reflowing does work. It's a service I provide to clients and it works much more often than it doesn't. I've permemanantly revived XB360's, PS3's and the infamous NVidia laptop GPU's. The key is understanding the problem, using the proper tools & supplies, using the right methods and having patience.
I wasn't casting aspersions about reflowing in general, just Mussel's efforts with it, as I know reflowing stuff is a great way to fix it if you can.
 

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Okay i have a really bad idea for this, what temp would a GPU need to be for the reflow?
 
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Okay i have a really bad idea for this, what temp would a GPU need to be for the reflow?
It's over 200c I believe so I don't think it's going to work sadly
 
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Okay i have a really bad idea for this, what temp would a GPU need to be for the reflow?
Don’t know if this helps:
The temperature of reflow zone will pass melting temperature during this zone with solder paste melted to liquid. During this phase, the temperature of 183℃ above should be maintained for 60 to 90 seconds. Either too short time or too long time possibly causes quality issues of soldering. Thus, it’s extremely essential to control the time span at the temperature of 220±10℃. Normally, the time should be controlled within the range from 10 to 20 seconds.
 

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Oh, i just have a really bad idea i'll try before the rain hits. dont mind me.


This idea is VERY likely to kill the card, should be fun
 
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So long as there's an amazing video, we'll be happy
 

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How about a nice GIF? i lacked enough hands

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Video Card(s) Powercolor RX 6800XT Red Dragon | PNY a2000 6GB
Storage SX8200 Pro 1TB, 1TB KC3000, 850EVO 500GB, 2+8TB Seagate, LG Blu-ray | 120GB Sandisk SSD, 4TB WD red
Display(s) Samsung UJ590UDE 32" UHD monitor | LG CS 55" OLED
Case Silverstone TJ08B-E | Custom built wooden case (Aus native timbers)
Audio Device(s) Onboard, Sennheiser HD 599 cans / Logitech z163's | Edifier S2000 MKIII via toslink
Power Supply Corsair HX 750 | Corsair SF 450
Mouse Microsoft Pro Intellimouse| Some logitech one
Keyboard GMMK w/ Zelio V2 62g (78g for spacebar) tactile switches & Glorious black keycaps| Some logitech one
VR HMD HTC Vive
Software Win 10 Edu | Ubuntu 22.04
Benchmark Scores Look in the various benchmark threads
That's definitely good enough for me
 
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Processor Core i7-13700
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Cooling Cooler Master RGB something
Memory Corsair DDR5-6000 small OC to 6200
Video Card(s) XFX Speedster SWFT309 AMD Radeon RX 6700 XT CORE Gaming
Storage 970 EVO NVMe M.2 500GB,,WD850N 2TB
Display(s) Samsung 28” 4K monitor
Case Phantek Eclipse P400S
Audio Device(s) EVGA NU Audio
Power Supply EVGA 850 BQ
Mouse Logitech G502 Hero
Keyboard Logitech G G413 Silver
Software Windows 11 Professional v23H2

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System Name Rainbow Sparkles (Power efficient, <350W gaming load)
Processor Ryzen R7 5800x3D (Undervolted, 4.45GHz all core)
Motherboard Asus x570-F (BIOS Modded)
Cooling Alphacool Apex UV - Alphacool Eisblock XPX Aurora + EK Quantum ARGB 3090 w/ active backplate
Memory 2x32GB DDR4 3600 Corsair Vengeance RGB @3866 C18-22-22-22-42 TRFC704 (1.4V Hynix MJR - SoC 1.15V)
Video Card(s) Galax RTX 3090 SG 24GB: Underclocked to 1700Mhz 0.750v (375W down to 250W))
Storage 2TB WD SN850 NVME + 1TB Sasmsung 970 Pro NVME + 1TB Intel 6000P NVME USB 3.2
Display(s) Phillips 32 32M1N5800A (4k144), LG 32" (4K60) | Gigabyte G32QC (2k165) | Phillips 328m6fjrmb (2K144)
Case Fractal Design R6
Audio Device(s) Logitech G560 | Corsair Void pro RGB |Blue Yeti mic
Power Supply Fractal Ion+ 2 860W (Platinum) (This thing is God-tier. Silent and TINY)
Mouse Logitech G Pro wireless + Steelseries Prisma XL
Keyboard Razer Huntsman TE ( Sexy white keycaps)
VR HMD Oculus Rift S + Quest 2
Software Windows 11 pro x64 (Yes, it's genuinely a good OS) OpenRGB - ditch the branded bloatware!
Benchmark Scores Nyooom.
Is the fire for effect? SO what about the card?

oh no it genuinely caught on fire

i washed it for a bit with some dishes, and now its drying off.
 
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