NVIDIA RTX 3080 Release Availability Could be a Novel

[phanbuey]

I mean if you think about it, it's kind of a low risk investment for a scalper. The cards don't drop in price so even if you can't offload all of them you will get your money back eventually, and that is a group of people that will drop an extra $400 to get it right now. It's not like tickets where they are worthless after the event.

Grab em, slap a new shipping label on them for $400 is a quick way to make a buck. Worst case scenario is they take up some space until you sell it for what you bought it at.

Why nvidia doesnt put a 10 second time limit on each screen of the checkout process or error to stop bots is beyond me (well maybe not, they like it when people fight over their stuff).

 

[Assimilator]

Meh, Tom always qualifies the level of trust he has in his different sources so that the auditors can have an idea of the solidity of the material.

Anyways, he reiterated this in newer videos and there's others saying the same thing.

But you are free to believe that the shortage of 3080 we are witnessing is due to thousands of miners and bots. And the thousands of bot owners aren't reselling their cards, because...? As other YouTubers have noticed, there must have been more 3080 available to reviewers than there were for sale.

He and you are free to claim whatever you want as many times as you want. Until or unless he or you can provide hard evidence of your claims, Occam's razor applies: the most likely reason for this shortage is because NVIDIA has a low supply, because a lot of people want these cards, and because a lot of scalpers are trying to profit.

Yeah i dont think the title radeon fanboy is adequate. After all he also "predicted" the better performance of the 3080 vs 2080Ti so he's not really on any side here.
And guess why he justifies his legitimacy. Because there will still be people calling him a radeon fanboy...

Observing that a trend from literally the past god knows how many generations of GPU launches will likely continue, is an incredible prediction that absolutely nobody else in the world could've made. It also doesn't make him any less of a fanboy.

 

[efikkan]

It's sad to see how many desperately try to ruin Nvidia's reputation by spreading misinformation and outright lies.

There is no way Nvidia artificially limit the supply, claiming so is either crazy or completely clueless. Nvidia don't earn anything extra from inflated prices by retailers, and they have every intention to move as many cards as they can, especially if they face uncertain competition from AMD soon.

This launch is simply another case of higher demand than supplies. The demand seems to be even higher this time. There is no conspiracy, just tens of thousands of eager buyers.

We knew it's a paper launch, there(s no miners guys.

This nonsense is already debunked, just look at AiBs like Asus, MSI, Zotac and Gigabyte offering cards at the same MSRP as Nvidia.
It's sad to see that this garbage gets this kind of attention. He is trolling you, and you and the author here fell for it.

 

[BoboOOZ]

He and you are free to claim whatever you want as many times as you want. Until or unless he or you can provide hard evidence of your claims, Occam's razor applies: the most likely reason for this shortage is because NVIDIA has a low supply, because a lot of people want these cards, and because a lot of scalpers are trying to profit.

FTFY, here's where Occam razor's ends

 

[Assimilator]

FTFY, here's where Occam razor's ends

Low stock is not the same as a paper launch.
Low stock is not the same as artificially limiting stock.

Think.

 

[BoboOOZ]

This nonsense is already debunked, just look at AiBs like Asus, MSI, Zotac and Gigabyte offering cards at the same MSRP as Nvidia.
It's sad to see that this garbage gets this kind of attention. He is trolling you, and you and the author here fell for it.

FWIW, I live in France, MSRP has never made any sense for me, I've never been able to find Nvidia video cards at MSRP in France. That's why I ended up with a 5700XT. it just seems that MSRP is about to become purely theoretical for the US, too.
We'll see in the coming weeks if those AIB cards are available at MSRP or not.

Low stock is not the same as a paper launch.

That is very open to interpretation, we'll see how this goes the next days.

 

[silkstone]

There's still a little availability, it seems, where I live, but they are generally overpriced.

On a side note, some shops are also selling the 3090, or at least they say they are, but at $2k a card.

 

[Space Lynx]

"unprecedented demand" gtfo. they knew it was a paper launch to beat big navi imo.

yeah the history of your gpu's selling out every month for 3 years straight (FE official store variant) wasn't forewarning enough. lulz w.e

I can't wait for my Big Navi and Ryzen 4800x. Take care Intel and Nvidia, it was a fun ride.

 

[Raevenlord]

Loved some of the art references.

Potentially off-topic, but I like to see news pieces written like this one every once in a while

Thank you

This nonsense is already debunked, just look at AiBs like Asus, MSI, Zotac and Gigabyte offering cards at the same MSRP as Nvidia.
It's sad to see that this garbage gets this kind of attention. He is trolling you, and you and the author here fell for it.

I fail to see where exactly in the article is there anything ever resembling a "the author fell for it". That there are stories and rumors is a fact; however, never in the article are these rumors presented as facts in themselves.

 

[EarthDog]

I fail to see where exactly in the article is there anything ever resembling a "the author fell for it". That there are stories and rumors is a fact; however, never in the article are these rumors presented as facts in themselves.

An editorial based on fud/rumors.

knew it was a paper launch to beat big navi imo.

a paper launch explicitly implies no cards available at launch. There were cards available, but the sold out nearly immediately.

That said, I fully believe they rushed this out without enough product... but let's be clear on what a paper launch actually means.

 

[BlackWater]

Honestly, this was expected. The more there is hype, the more there will be scalpers with bots, trying to buy out supply and exploit gullible people and sell them these cards for 2x-10x or more. But honestly, who cares? There will be supply, eventually. Might take a month or two, might even take 3+ months, but unless you literally don't have a GPU (if you sold your 2080/Ti, it's your own fault) and you need a GPU right now, I don't see it as a problem. As excited as I am to replace my GTX 1080, the plan right from the start was to do it late November-mid December. This keeps happening over and over and over, and somehow people are still shocked at early supply issues with any launch... As if their memory lasts only 5 minutes...

 

[Raevenlord]

An edititorial based on fud/rumors.

Are you referring to the immediate non-availability, bots acquiring graphics cards, or scalpers selling them for above-MSRP prices?

Because those are all facts.

 

[Animalpak]

To me it is all because of the 2000 series that was way overpriced and not very high on performance.

Many people didnt upgrade to 2000 series they keep their GTX 1000's till now....

There's tons of 1080 Ti ( priced under 400$) on sale as the 2080 Ti's . Someone here in my local craiglist site selling his 2080 Ti MSI Seahawk EK !!! For 550$ !!! That dude is crazy !

All because of the 2000 series disappointment the real failure is the first RTX series not this launch !

People seeing now the 3000 series priced correctly for the performance jump they will get of course they all want to upgrade asap !

Plus games like Cyberpunk 2077, Crysis Remastered and many others are pushiing PC players to upgrade.

 

[EarthDog]

Are you referring to the immediate non-availability, bots acquiring graphics cards, or scalpers selling them for above-MSRP prices?

Because those are all facts.

I guess it went over your head.

 

[Xaled]

An editorial based on fud/rumors.

These fud/rumors are more believable and reliable than the 999$ announced price of 2080ti

 

[Agent_D]

There'll always be GPU miners as there'll always be GPU-centered coins. But it's not profitable like it once was, and hopefully never will be.

The whole crypto thing was a good idea perverted into something ugly by greed #differenttopic.

The whole *everything* was a good idea perverted into something ugly by greed #differenttopic.

ftfy

This has been the trend for quite some time now; I was hoping to grab one, but knew it was a far fetched dream. They can say what they want, but they could care less about the GPU's ending up in the hands of anyone as long as they get sold.

 

[EarthDog]

These fud/rumors are more believable and reliable than the 999$ announced price of 2080ti

FuckinA, this place....lol

Reading some posts feels like strapping on lead boots and trying to jump.

 

[Searing]

Don't make excuses for nVidia. Last time they launched two SKUs this time only one. Last time they had a card that was $100 more with no performance increases and 3GB less VRAM, and another that was $500 more for marginal improvements (20 percent). This time they have a new card for the same price, with 2GB more VRAM, and 40 percent faster. Only one SKU.

Basic accounting you should have 2x2 at least 4 times as much stock as last launch. Add to it the current shortages for computer parts leading to a build up, maybe nVidia should do the reasonable thing and wait until they have 10x more in stock before launching.

The bots are an excuse. Bots exist where lack of supply exists. It is not a demand issue. If you have enough product it isn't worth a bot's "time". I'm not "too mad" but shame on nVidia.

 

[windwhirl]

"unprecedented demand" gtfo. they knew it was a paper launch to beat big navi imo.

I'm not gonna say they did a paper launch, but it does look like one.

yeah the history of your gpu's selling out every month for 3 years straight (FE official store variant) wasn't forewarning enough. lulz w.e

maybe nVidia should do the reasonable thing and wait until they have 10x more in stock before launching.

Well, they can't be building up stock for a year only to make sure that they don't sell out in the first 15 minutes of launch day. Although I do wonder how expensive keeping those cards collecting dust in warehouses could be.

I'd like to add that, although COVID has done quite the economic impact worldwide, there could be a lot of people with money burning holes in their pockets. Add to that that a lot of people held onto their GTX 1000 series cards (or even earlier ones) because they didn't see much appeal in Turing (with or without first-gen RTX) and now feel the itch to upgrade, and it's not impossible that demand for the new cards could be above what Nvidia and partners prepared for.

Thank you

You're most welcome.

This has been the trend for quite some time now; I was hoping to grab one, but knew it was a far fetched dream. They can say what they want, but they could care less about the GPU's ending up in the hands of anyone as long as they get sold.

I wonder what happened with that lawsuit (?) about Nvidia not telling investors that their cards sold really well because crypto boom and all that.

 

[Space Lynx]

Don't make excuses for nVidia. Last time they launched two SKUs this time only one. Last time they had a card that was $100 more with no performance increases and 3GB less VRAM, and another that was $500 more for marginal improvements (20 percent). This time they have a new card for the same price, with 2GB more VRAM, and 40 percent faster. Only one SKU.

Basic accounting you should have 2x2 at least 4 times as much stock as last launch. Add to it the current shortages for computer parts leading to a build up, maybe nVidia should do the reasonable thing and wait until they have 10x more in stock before launching.

The bots are an excuse. Bots exist where lack of supply exists. It is not a demand issue. If you have enough product it isn't worth a bot's "time". I'm not "too mad" but shame on nVidia.

my signature will bring you comfort, my padawan.

 

[QUANTUMPHYSICS]

They make it out to sound like these websites got hit with a cyberattack.

Bots coulda been stopped with one of those captchas or a phone number verification method.

For these companies to tell us the exact day and time preorders would be available was basically them telling the bot handlers to attack at a specific date and time.

I am just so happy I got mine!!!

 

[Assimilator]

They make it out to sound like these websites got hit with a cyberattack.

Bots coulda been stopped with one of those captchas or a phone number verification method.

For these companies to tell us the exact day and time preorders would be available was basically them telling the bot handlers to attack at a specific date and time.

I am just so happy I got mine!!!

Nooooo, haven't you been reading this thread, 3080 is a paper launch, anyone saying they got one is obviously a lying paid Ngreedia shill! /s

The depths to which AMD fanboys will sink is getting lower every day.

 

[R0H1T]

You know what's even more hilarious

RTX 3080 (DONT BUY FROM SCALPERS) DO NOT BUY THIS (Read Description)

NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3080 RENDER - DO NOT BUY (Read Description).

Would be more fun if scalpers bought this

 

[efikkan]

Are you referring to the immediate non-availability, bots acquiring graphics cards, or scalpers selling them for above-MSRP prices?
Because those are all facts.

Respectfully, the fact that there exists some "scalpers" doesn't prove there is a problem, nor how many were grabbed by scalpers vs. "legitimate" buyers. The theory about "bots" better have some serious evidence to be considered as facts.

The "immediate non-availability" is not a "fact" either. While I don't know the global distribution between wholesalers, a single scandinavian shop got hundreds of these, so there were likely many thousands globally. All the facts points to it not being a paper launch, just extreme demand.

 

[laszlo]