AMD Ryzen 9 5900X

[KarymidoN]

Wizzard are u using a 2080Ti for this review?



You should use a 3090 to eliminate any GPU bottleneck if it does exists. Perhaps that's why yr scores are different.

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[X71200]

Well well... what can we sum up here? Crushing, absolutely demolishing for Windows usage. Gaming reaching there of Intel too. Price might not be as much to write home about.

5/5 sick CPU. LOL.

 

[Steevo]

Perhaps 3600 memory or faster would improve the last few percent of gaming scores. Plus another feature has yet to be tried, where the CPU can use the Vmem....


But I know 3 of these will be used in builds I have ready to be ordered today.

 

[Selaya]

Memory/FCLK scaling bottleneck.
At a modest 1,600 FCLK these results are to be expected. AMD benched at 1,800 for their previews, and rumors suggest Vermeers can run FCLK up to 2,000 - with 4000 Memory and FCLK at 2,000 on 1:1 mode the Vermeer's dominance at gaming should probably be ... comprehensive.

 

[ViperXTR]

 

[W1zzard]

CS-GO and valorant 130/180 more fps for ryzen at 1080p and so on...

you have choosen the right games to keep intel on top. Nice try. you are in total control damage

I used the same games I have used for years in CPU reviews. I'm not cherry picking any games

Memory/FCLK scaling bottleneck.
At a modest 1,600 FCLK these results are to be expected. AMD benched at 1,800 for their previews, and rumors suggest Vermeers can run FCLK up to 2,000 - with 4000 Memory and FCLK at 2,000 on 1:1 mode the Vermeer's dominance at gaming should probably be ... comprehensive.

Will test memory scaling and IF scaling next week, then we'll know more

 

[okbuddy]

why you guys skipped the 5950x like skipped the 3950x, no enough cooler?

 

[dirtyferret]

he's not the only one using the 2080ti, I see it on a number of sites including toms, anandtech, pcgamer, and techspot "Finally, please note for all the productivity testing we’re using the GeForce RTX 2080 Ti, but for the gaming benchmarks we’ve gone back and updated all our numbers with the RTX 3090 and added some new games in the process"

@W1zzard did you get these Ryzen CPUs prior to the RTX 3090 or was there driver issues AMD wanted to avoid?

 

[sergionography]

With AMD highly recommending using higher end memory I suggest testing higher clocked dimms and see what that does to performance, especially gaming. Zen in general is very memory sensitive so low latency high speed ram will go a long way

 

[天下无糖]

All review place,but only techpowerup is showing Zen3 weaker than INTEL. HOW MUCH INTEL PAID YOU TO GET THIS RESULT??

 

[W1zzard]

why you guys skipped the 5950x like skipped the 3950x, no enough cooler?

AMD sent the 5950X so that it arrived today

did you get these Ryzen CPUs prior to the RTX 3090 or was there driver issues AMD wanted to avoid?

After 3090, but not enough time to retest all comparison CPUs

With AMD highly recommending using higher end memory I suggest

Don't really care about what AMD recommends. I feel like 3200 CL14 is a great compromise between cost, performance and what's realistic for actual people who go out and buy hardware. I don't bench Intel with Power Limit removed, just because Intel wants it. Working on a memory scaling article for next week already

 

[dicktracy]

On some sites it is slightly faster than Skylake, and how did AMD celebrate this? By charging $450 for 8 cores and $300 for 6 cores in 2020. The irony is very real.

 

[erek]

That 4K gaming vs Intel isn't very promising. First thing i noticed!

 

[cueman]

well well
i cant really.. see anything update zen2.

still behind 10900 gaming..and i dont even check cinbench or so theory score.

alot hype and ,but must say, results is level zero.

lets wait now intel rocket lake-s,intel answer,coming march 2021...few month.

but, big bang is intel 1st 10nm cpu,also 1st of kind and,its hybrid cpu, adler lake, june/2021

new age cpu performance!

 

[EarthDog]

Wow, this CPU is a beast. I am quite disappointed in the gaming performance. If IPC is that much better and clocks are in the ball park... I figured it would be faster than Intel not trading punches.

BTW, can we please get a single thread for these releases?

That wouldn't draw as many hits. Hits > organization.

Please stop testing 720p for CPUs and magnifying the performance difference that doesn't scale past that resolution. If you're rocking a 720p monitor, you aren't buying the latest gen CPU either.

 

[Krzych]

Nothing surprising for anyone with realistic expectations, but this is another release that brings nothing significant to gaming. It is really getting annoying, for how many years can performance be stagnant... Hopefully Alder Lake is significantly ahead of Rocket Lake, it is the only thing left that looks promising.

 

[X71200]

On some sites it is slightly faster than Skylake, and how did AMD celebrate this? By charging $450 for 8 cores and $300 for 6 cores in 2020. The irony is very real.

While higher memory and running Infinity Fabric to at least 1800+ does help significantly, there is also an irony here with people thinking 2 more or less FPS changes their whole gaming experience compared to a much inferior CPU in every other way. This was already for the most part true with Matisse, and has become better with Vermeer.

AMD are already celebrating because they completely realize people do not want 350W 10 core space heaters. The stocks are being scalped and AMD Robert is, well... probably soloing his harmonica. Let's go Robert..!

 

[RandallFlagg]

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The problem of course is going to be comparable performance vs already benched chips like the Intel 10th Gen and Zen 2, so it would be a lot of work. Basically have to re-bench most of what was released in the last 18 months, so like 5x more work than just benching the Zen 3 using the standard test bed. I do agree it would be more relevant.

Having said that, the 720P benchmarks with a 2080Ti are probably representative of max performance with little or no GPU limiting factors.

Compared to the 10700K - the results aren't much different with only 1% fps gain from a 5800X or 5900X and essentially a tie with a 5600X in games. The 10700K actually beats the 5600X on CPU tests (moar cores, higher freq).
I thought the 5600X would be a winner here, but IMO the 10700K is a much better deal as it generally outperforms it and has much more OC headroom (you can easily get another 5% out of the 10700K, widening that gap). It can also benefit from higher speed memory, as most Intel chips can.

That said, the 5800X / 5900X are clear winners in overall performance at the high end. If one is looking for a $500ish CPU right now for a new build, these two seem to be the clear front runners. The 10850K and 10900K just can't compete at their current prices.

Final statement: Rocket Lake is probably going to destroy this, Zen 3 is too close to Gen 10 performance.

 

[RMX]

Awesome showing from AMD!
Wasn't AGESA 1.1.0.0 released for optimal performance on Ryzen 5000 Series? Noticed other sites, which are showing higher scores, that they are using different BIOS versions for the boards they tested with.

 

[medi01]

TPU results contrast with conclusions by computerbase.de (ran on 3080 not 2080Ti... cause why not use the fastest GPU you have to test your CPU, cough):

 

[EarthDog]

TPU results contrast with conclusions by computerbase.de :

You don't say? Do you realize that it is a different set of games between the two?

Also, a link would be helpful... the image without any context and in a different language doesn't do much for most people.

 

[okbuddy]

red beats blue

but in real life blue beats red, the guy lost

 

[medi01]

On some sites it is slightly faster than Skylake

Yeah.

 

[dicktracy]

While higher memory and running Infinity Fabric to at least 1800+ does help significantly, there is also an irony here with people thinking 2 more or less FPS changes their whole gaming experience compared to a much inferior CPU in every other way. This was already for the most part true with Matisse, and has become better with Vermeer.

AMD are already celebrating because they completely realize people do not want 350W 10 core space heaters. The stocks are being scalped and AMD Robert is, well... probably soloing his harmonica. Let's go Robert..!

Thing is, AMD is practically acting like Intel and Nvidia with their new prices. $450 for 8 cores, $300 for 6 cores, $4000 for HEDT, $1000 for flagship GPU, all of which their loyal foot soldiers were rioting about. The tables have turned. RIP AMD fans.

 

[B-Real]

To everyone saying "Gaming king?" or "Intel is still better", check the Zen 3 launch video. Stephen Burke (and others who analyzed the launch stream) said that it was tested across all platforms with 3600 MHz memories.

It's not an upgrade to Intel users lol.

why you guys skipped the 5950x like skipped the 3950x, no enough cooler?

Maybe Wizzard is doing it later.