Will a 11 game average convince you?yeah keep posting that graph into every thread, maybe you will convince someone that the 5000 series lineup is indeed a geyming king
However, given your very unbiased avatar, it won't.
Will a 11 game average convince you?yeah keep posting that graph into every thread, maybe you will convince someone that the 5000 series lineup is indeed a geyming king
System Name | Legion |
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Processor | i7-12700KF |
Motherboard | Asus Z690-Plus TUF Gaming WiFi D5 |
Cooling | Arctic Liquid Freezer 2 240mm AIO |
Memory | PNY MAKO DDR5-6000 C36-36-36-76 |
Video Card(s) | PowerColor Hellhound 6700 XT 12GB |
Storage | WD SN770 512GB m.2, Samsung 980 Pro m.2 2TB |
Display(s) | Acer K272HUL 1440p / 34" MSI MAG341CQ 3440x1440 |
Case | Montech Air X |
Power Supply | Corsair CX750M |
Mouse | Logitech MX Anywhere 25 |
Keyboard | Logitech MX Keys |
Software | Lots |
Will a 11 game average convince you?
However, given your very unbiased avatar, it won't.
In almost all competitives games, zen 3 destroy the 10900k. If i am not wrong the biggest advantage of intel was competive games, right ?For the asking price, it's easier to get 10700 (non-K), which has 8 cores and apparently is still better at games if you look at those charts.
System Name | PCGR |
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Processor | 12400f |
Motherboard | Asus ROG STRIX B660-I |
Cooling | Stock Intel Cooler |
Memory | 2x16GB DDR5 5600 Corsair |
Video Card(s) | Dell RTX 3080 |
Storage | 1x 512GB Mmoment PCIe 3 NVME 1x 2TB Corsair S70 |
Display(s) | LG 32" 1440p |
Case | Phanteks Evolve itx |
Audio Device(s) | Onboard |
Power Supply | 750W Cooler Master sfx |
Software | Windows 11 |
System Name | Cypher-C4 |
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Processor | Ryzen 9 5900X |
Motherboard | MSI B450 Tomahawk Max |
Cooling | Deepcool AK620 |
Memory | 32GB Crucial Ballistix Elite 3200MHz |
Video Card(s) | Palit RTX 3060 Ti Dual |
Storage | 250GB Crucial MX500 + 2TB Crucial MX500 + 2TB WD Black + 4TB Toshiba + 1TB Samsung F3 |
Display(s) | Acer XV272UP |
Case | Corsair Obsidian 750D |
Audio Device(s) | Behringher UMC202HD Audio Interface + Mackie HM-4 + Sennheiser HD 280 Pro + Shure SM58 |
Power Supply | Corsair HX750i |
Mouse | Steelseries Rival 310 |
Keyboard | Keychron K8 + Kailh BOX Crystal Jade switches + Ducky Good in Blue keycaps |
Software | Windows 10 Pro 64-bit |
Nice review as always. It is a nice CPU but still not a generational leap. At 1440p it is only 2% faster than my 3 year 8700k and they both cost about the same. Would be nice to see how it runs on a 3080 or 3090 to see backing the bottleneck back some would show a difference in fps with the CPU.
But at this rate, I will be holding on to my 8700k until I can get some actual tangible improvements by upgrading my platform.
System Name | main/SFFHTPCARGH!(tm)/Xiaomi Mi TV Stick/Samsung Galaxy S23/Ally |
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Processor | Ryzen 7 5800X3D/i7-3770/S905X/Snapdragon 8 Gen 2/Ryzen Z1 Extreme |
Motherboard | MSI MAG B550 Tomahawk/HP SFF Q77 Express/uh?/uh?/Asus |
Cooling | Enermax ETS-T50 Axe aRGB /basic HP HSF /errr.../oh! liqui..wait, no:sizable vapor chamber/a nice one |
Memory | 64gb Corsair Vengeance Pro 3600mhz DDR4/8gb DDR3 1600/2gb LPDDR3/8gb LPDDR5x 4200/16gb LPDDR5 |
Video Card(s) | Hellhound Spectral White RX 7900 XTX 24gb/GT 730/Mali 450MP5/Adreno 740/RDNA3 768 core |
Storage | 250gb870EVO/500gb860EVO/2tbSandisk/NVMe2tb+1tb/4tbextreme V2/1TB Arion/500gb/8gb/256gb/2tb SN770M |
Display(s) | X58222 32" 2880x1620/32"FHDTV/273E3LHSB 27" 1920x1080/6.67"/AMOLED 2X panel FHD+120hz/FHD 120hz |
Case | Cougar Panzer Max/Elite 8300 SFF/None/back/back-front Gorilla Glass Victus 2+ UAG Monarch Carbon |
Audio Device(s) | Logi Z333/SB Audigy RX/HDMI/HDMI/Dolby Atmos/KZ x HBB PR2/Moondrop Chu II + TRN BT20S |
Power Supply | Chieftec Proton BDF-1000C /HP 240w/12v 1.5A/4Smart Voltplug PD 30W/Asus USB-C 65W |
Mouse | Speedlink Sovos Vertical-Asus ROG Spatha-Logi Ergo M575/Xiaomi XMRM-006/touch/touch |
Keyboard | Endorfy Thock 75% <3/none/touch/virtual |
VR HMD | Medion Erazer |
Software | Win10 64/Win8.1 64/Android TV 8.1/Android 13/Win11 64 |
Benchmark Scores | bench...mark? i do leave mark on bench sometime, to remember which one is the most comfortable. :o |
yeah, but no ... 100chf more =/= same price ... but you are right if it is a 10600K comparison in my country (for other EU country alright ... too) .... although if i had the same price for a 5600X and a 10700 ... i'd still take the 5600X performance wise it's close enough and keep the OC possibility ... (or in the case of a 6600K fail like mine ... "rental OC" ) direct comparison for my country invalidate yours, right?Because 5600x = 10700 msrp in US and most EU countries. So it draws direct comparison.
1440p is not much CPU bound indeed ...At 1440p it is only 2% faster than my 3 year 8700k and they both cost about the same.
exactly!If your PC primary purpose is gaming, you should know by now you're not gonna get much benefit by upgrading from a Core i7-8700K.
System Name | ❶ Oooh (2024) ❷ Aaaah (2021) ❸ Ahemm (2017) |
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Processor | ❶ 5800X3D ❷ i7-9700K ❸ i7-7700K |
Motherboard | ❶ X570-F ❷ Z390-E ❸ Z270-E |
Cooling | ❶ ALFIII 360 ❷ X62 + X72 (GPU mod) ❸ X62 |
Memory | ❶ 32-3600/16 ❷ 32-3200/16 ❸ 16-3200/16 |
Video Card(s) | ❶ 3080 X Trio ❷ 2080TI (AIOmod) ❸ 1080TI |
Storage | ❶ NVME/SSD/HDD ❷ <SAME ❸ SSD/HDD |
Display(s) | ❶ 1440/165/IPS ❷ 1440/144/IPS ❸ 1080/144/IPS |
Case | ❶ BQ Silent 601 ❷ Cors 465X ❸ Frac Mesh C |
Audio Device(s) | ❶ HyperX C2 ❷ HyperX C2 ❸ Logi G432 |
Power Supply | ❶ HX1200 Plat ❷ RM750X ❸ EVGA 650W G2 |
Mouse | ❶ Logi G Pro ❷ Razer Bas V3 ❸ Logi G502 |
Keyboard | ❶ Logi G915 TKL ❷ Anne P2 ❸ Logi G610 |
Software | ❶ Win 11 ❷ 10 ❸ 10 |
Benchmark Scores | I have wrestled bandwidths, Tussled with voltages, Handcuffed Overclocks, Thrown Gigahertz in Jail |
Processor | AMD Ryzen 9 5900X |
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Motherboard | ASUS ROG STRIX B550-F GAMING (WI-FI) |
Cooling | Corsair iCUE H115i Elite Capellix 280mm |
Memory | 32GB G.Skill DDR4 3600Mhz CL18 |
Video Card(s) | ASUS GTX 1650 TUF |
Storage | Sabrent Rocket 1TB M.2 |
Display(s) | Dell S3220DGF |
Case | Corsair iCUE 4000X |
Audio Device(s) | ASUS Xonar D2X |
Power Supply | Corsair AX760 Platinum |
Mouse | Razer DeathAdder V2 - Wireless |
Keyboard | Redragon K618 RGB PRO |
Software | Microsoft Windows 11 Pro (64-bit) |
Would have loved to get one to replace my 1600AE, but that 299USD MSRP makes it 333EUR over at my end.
70% price bump over the regular 3600 I ordered. Yeah no...
Processor | 9700K |
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Motherboard | Asrock Z390 Phantom Gaming-ITX/ac |
Cooling | Alpenfohn Black Ridge |
Memory | 32GB Micron VLP 18ADF2G72AZ-3G2E1 |
Video Card(s) | 3090 FE |
Display(s) | Samsung G9 NEO |
Case | Formd T1 |
Power Supply | Corsair SF750 |
If your PC primary purpose is gaming, you should know by now you're not gonna get much benefit by upgrading from a Core i7-8700K.
System Name | The Poor Man Build |
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Processor | Core i9 10850K @5,1Ghz |
Motherboard | ASUS Z490i STRIX |
Cooling | Scythe Mugen 5 Black Edition |
Memory | Gskill TridentZ 16GB Kit @3600 CL16 |
Video Card(s) | PNY GeForce RTX 3080Ti |
Storage | Samsung 970 EVO Plus 500GB |
Display(s) | ASUS VG27AQ |
Case | CM NR200 |
Power Supply | CM V750 SFX |
Will a 11 game average convince you?
However, given your very unbiased avatar, it won't.
System Name | TheReactor / HTPC |
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Processor | AMD 7800x3d 5050Mhz / Intel 10700kf (5.1ghz All Core) |
Motherboard | ASrock x670e Taichi / ROG Strix z490-e gaming |
Cooling | HeatKiller VI CPU/GPU Block -2xBlackIce GTX 360 Radiators - Swiftech MCP655 Pump |
Memory | 32GB G.Skill 6000Mhz DDR5 / 32GB G.Skill 3400Mhz DDR4 |
Video Card(s) | Nvidia 3090ti / Nvidia 2080ti |
Storage | Crucial T700 2TB Gen 5 / Samsung Evo 2Tb |
Display(s) | Acer Predator xb271hu - 2560x1440 @144hz |
Case | Corsiar 550 |
Audio Device(s) | on board |
Power Supply | Antec Quattro 1000W |
Mouse | Logitech G502 |
Keyboard | Corsair Gaming k70 |
Software | Windows 10 Pro 64bit |
Not to mention the OC headroom on the 10700 and 10700k. 5ghz easy on the K, and a simple unlock of power in bios pushes the 10700 up a good chunk.My old eyes may be messing with me, but I only see the 5950X on that chart. I think it's clear that the 5900X/5800X are top dog performers now, but at the more normal price points the 10700K and 10700 seem to be the best bang for buck by a wide margin at the 5600X price point. And this particular thread is about the 5600X.
Processor | Intel Core i7 11700 |
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Motherboard | Asus b560-i ROG |
Cooling | Thermalright Assassin King Mini |
Memory | G.Skill Trident Z 3600 |
Video Card(s) | RTX 3080 FE |
Display(s) | Dell S2721DGF |
Case | Ncase M1 |
Power Supply | Corsair SF750 |
Mouse | HyperX |
Keyboard | HyperX |
In almost all competitives games, zen 3 destroy the 10900k. If i am not wrong the biggest advantage of intel was competive games, right ?
So you should read or watch others reviews, because some results are insanely impressive.
For instance at 1080p CSGO +180fps with zen3 - valorant +130fps. Pugb, rocket league and so on ..zen 3 is also way faster
Bingo! And perhaps even more ironically, Intel now has a better upgrade path with 11th gen almost certainly completely blowing Zen 3 out of the water as far as gaming is concerned. My, how the tables have turned!For the asking price, it's easier to get 10700 (non-K), which has 8 cores and apparently is still better at games if you look at those charts.
If your PC primary purpose is gaming, you should know by now you're not gonna get much benefit by upgrading from a Core i7-8700K.
System Name | Legion |
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Processor | i7-12700KF |
Motherboard | Asus Z690-Plus TUF Gaming WiFi D5 |
Cooling | Arctic Liquid Freezer 2 240mm AIO |
Memory | PNY MAKO DDR5-6000 C36-36-36-76 |
Video Card(s) | PowerColor Hellhound 6700 XT 12GB |
Storage | WD SN770 512GB m.2, Samsung 980 Pro m.2 2TB |
Display(s) | Acer K272HUL 1440p / 34" MSI MAG341CQ 3440x1440 |
Case | Montech Air X |
Power Supply | Corsair CX750M |
Mouse | Logitech MX Anywhere 25 |
Keyboard | Logitech MX Keys |
Software | Lots |
System Name | PCGR |
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Processor | 12400f |
Motherboard | Asus ROG STRIX B660-I |
Cooling | Stock Intel Cooler |
Memory | 2x16GB DDR5 5600 Corsair |
Video Card(s) | Dell RTX 3080 |
Storage | 1x 512GB Mmoment PCIe 3 NVME 1x 2TB Corsair S70 |
Display(s) | LG 32" 1440p |
Case | Phanteks Evolve itx |
Audio Device(s) | Onboard |
Power Supply | 750W Cooler Master sfx |
Software | Windows 11 |
Processor | Intel Core i7 11700 |
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Motherboard | Asus b560-i ROG |
Cooling | Thermalright Assassin King Mini |
Memory | G.Skill Trident Z 3600 |
Video Card(s) | RTX 3080 FE |
Display(s) | Dell S2721DGF |
Case | Ncase M1 |
Power Supply | Corsair SF750 |
Mouse | HyperX |
Keyboard | HyperX |
Then it loses it right off the bat being $50+ more expensive without a huge performance increase.I think the direct competition for the 5600X is the 10600 cause its a 6c/12t cpu. 10700 is 8c/16t cpu.
Then it loses it right off the bat being $50+ more expensive without a huge performance increase.
System Name | PC on since Aug 2019, 1st CPU R5 3600 + ASUS ROG RX580 8GB >> MSI Gaming X RX5700XT (Jan 2020) |
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Processor | Ryzen 9 5900X (July 2022), 220W PPT limit, 80C temp limit, CO -6-14, +50MHz (up to 5.0GHz) |
Motherboard | Gigabyte X570 Aorus Pro (Rev1.0), BIOS F39b, AGESA V2 1.2.0.C |
Cooling | Arctic Liquid Freezer II 420mm Rev7 (Jan 2024) with off-center mount for Ryzen, TIM: Kryonaut |
Memory | 2x16GB G.Skill Trident Z Neo GTZN (July 2022) 3667MT/s 1.42V CL16-16-16-16-32-48 1T, tRFC:280, B-die |
Video Card(s) | Sapphire Nitro+ RX 7900XTX (Dec 2023) 314~467W (375W current) PowerLimit, 1060mV, Adrenalin v24.10.1 |
Storage | Samsung NVMe: 980Pro 1TB(OS 2022), 970Pro 512GB(2019) / SATA-III: 850Pro 1TB(2015) 860Evo 1TB(2020) |
Display(s) | Dell Alienware AW3423DW 34" QD-OLED curved (1800R), 3440x1440 144Hz (max 175Hz) HDR400/1000, VRR on |
Case | None... naked on desk |
Audio Device(s) | Astro A50 headset |
Power Supply | Corsair HX750i, ATX v2.4, 80+ Platinum, 93% (250~700W), modular, single/dual rail (switch) |
Mouse | Logitech MX Master (Gen1) |
Keyboard | Logitech G15 (Gen2) w/ LCDSirReal applet |
Software | Windows 11 Home 64bit (v24H2, OSBuild 26100.2161), upgraded from Win10 to Win11 on Jan 2024 |
You want to say: “...how well SmartAccessMemory will work with the RX6000 series...”Thank you TPU for these reviews. I am very impressed with these processors. I am looking forward to see how well Infinity Fabric will work with the RX 6000 series GPU's and these CPU's.
Processor | Intel Core i7 11700 |
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Motherboard | Asus b560-i ROG |
Cooling | Thermalright Assassin King Mini |
Memory | G.Skill Trident Z 3600 |
Video Card(s) | RTX 3080 FE |
Display(s) | Dell S2721DGF |
Case | Ncase M1 |
Power Supply | Corsair SF750 |
Mouse | HyperX |
Keyboard | HyperX |
Interesting. In EU 5600x costs like 10700 and €100 more than 10600k. And if you compare it to 10400f going for mere €150, it’s a terrible value proposition.Um, the 10600k is the same price as the Ryzen 5600X in Canada, and you'd be absolutely silly to pick the 10600K over the Ryzen. I'm disappointed at the high prices, but the CPU is rock solid. The 10600k uses 40W more for the same game frame rates, and much much slower productivity results. The 10600 is just bad, expensive and locked.
For sure a lot of people are holding out hope for the 5600 non X. The 5600x is weak compared to the incredible value of the 5900x.