Crucial Ballistix Gaming Memory DDR4-3200 MHz CL16 4x16 GB

[SirKronan]

On the contrary, Ryzen 9 should be getting the better yields of IO die, simply because the twin-chiplet Ryzen 9 processors require the better yields of IO die for two reasons:

1. to meet TDP requirements at stock speeds - the Ryzen 9 TDP is harder to meet with two chiplets, so they need to waste as little of the power budget on the IO die as possible.
2. All of the IF logic to communicate with the chiplets needs to be functional. One assumes that Ryzen 7 and Ryzen 5 models may be making use of IO dies where defects in one of the IF chiplet interconnects is defective, but just deactivated.

In production terms, that means it's far more likely to be the purer silicon towards the middle of the wafer - so whilst it's still a lottery - you are getting better odds than you would if you were using a single-chiplet model like a Ryzen7 or Ryzen 5.

I'm speculating, obviously - but this is the exact sort of thing both AMD and Intel have done before to maximise their profits - and that is their #1 priority, after all!

All you can do is try. Even if it won't run all 64GB at 3600MHz, you have the ability to tweak the timings around a bit.

It's worth noting that 1usmus just updated the Ryzen DRAM Calculator today.

HOORAY!!!!

I am totally sold on these Micron E die DDR4 sticks. Been running Prime95 memory stress test for about an hour with no issues yet. 4x16 at 3600MHz and 16 CAS latency and 1T command rate. All according to XMP specs. This kit seems to be a great match for the 3900x on x570.

Not bad at all for $185 MSRP per 2x16GB kit!

 

[dandaman622]

I have Crucial RGB gaming 3200 c16 and right now I have it overclocked easily to 3400 c16 on a ryzen 2600x. It is also stable at 3466, but I just haven't tested it thoroughly to see if it's 100% stable. It ran through basic stability tests though. I'm sure you could squeeze a little more out of it. I just honestly haven't spent much time on it. I'm pretty new to overclocking ram, had to learn because originally I bought a Corsair Vengeance LPX kit and it wouldn't stay stable at 3200mhz. I finally did get it stable at 3200 after trying everything, but I had to use higher voltage than I was comfortable with. The Crucial ram is great though.

 

[SirKronan]

I have Crucial RGB gaming 3200 c16 and right now I have it overclocked easily to 3400 c16 on a ryzen 2600x. It is also stable at 3466, but I just haven't tested it thoroughly to see if it's 100% stable. It ran through basic stability tests though. I'm sure you could squeeze a little more out of it. I just honestly haven't spent much time on it. I'm pretty new to overclocking ram, had to learn because originally I bought a Corsair Vengeance LPX kit and it wouldn't stay stable at 3200mhz. I finally did get it stable at 3200 after trying everything, but I had to use higher voltage than I was comfortable with. The Crucial ram is great though.

Agreed! As a follow-up, I was able to overclock it above 3600MHz on my 3900X with all four sticks. Even with timings tighter than rated stock timings I was able to squeeze more than 3600MHz out of this RAM and slightly higher than 1800MHz out of my infinity fabric. Hooray! I was pretty happy with the whole setup, mobo, CPU and RAM...

....then, I upgraded to a 5900X. I can no longer run the XMP profiles. There seems to be a new, artificial hard limit on frequency at 3200MHz, regardless of timings, voltages, and other settings. I've tried everything I can think of and even just tried to push a hair past 3200MHz. Won't even try to boot. Can't even get back into BIOS without hitting the CMOS reset button!

Apparently MSI and AMD are aware, and a BIOS update is in the works. This is strange because the 5000 series is supposed to be able to handle even more aggressive memory settings and handle four sticks better, too! Hopefully this is the case eventually.

RAM XMP issues aside, the 5900X is a staggeringly good CPU.

 

[Caring1]

I have Crucial RGB gaming 3200 c16 and right now I have it overclocked easily to 3400 c16 on a ryzen 2600x. It is also stable at 3466, but I just haven't tested it thoroughly to see if it's 100% stable. It ran through basic stability tests though. I'm sure you could squeeze a little more out of it. I just honestly haven't spent much time on it. I'm pretty new to overclocking ram, had to learn because originally I bought a Corsair Vengeance LPX kit and it wouldn't stay stable at 3200mhz. I finally did get it stable at 3200 after trying everything, but I had to use higher voltage than I was comfortable with. The Crucial ram is great though.

More research and you would have found Corsair LPX with timings suitable for AMD systems, it's all in the part number as shown in the following thread.

PSA: Corsair LPX and AMD

I learnt something the other day from someone I know at Corsairs that's involved in their memory products. Apparently some LPX kits are suitable for AMD use, but Corsair doesn't really mark them specifically as such on the packaging. There is some information on their website, but the key thing...

www.techpowerup.com

Unfortunately Corsair don't let you in on which is suitable for Intel, or which is suitable for AMD.

 

[dandaman622]

More research and you would have found Corsair LPX with timings suitable for AMD systems, it's all in the part number as shown in the following thread.

PSA: Corsair LPX and AMD

I learnt something the other day from someone I know at Corsairs that's involved in their memory products. Apparently some LPX kits are suitable for AMD use, but Corsair doesn't really mark them specifically as such on the packaging. There is some information on their website, but the key thing...

www.techpowerup.com

Unfortunately Corsair don't let you in on which is suitable for Intel, or which is suitable for AMD.

yeah im aware, mine still had trouble. I had CMK16GX4M2B3200C16, which is Hynix MFR dual rank. 4gbit . They don't get along very well on ryzen. On amazon there is actually a drag down list where you select style, and it says which ones are for Ryzen. Someone else ordered them for me and I didn't specify so they just ordered whichever one was on the page originally..

 

[Footman]

Be careful, I just purchased this ddr, thinking I would receive dual rank Micron E. What I received was Micron B single rank, that would not overclock past pc 3200 at all on my 570 motherboard.

 

[Chrispy_]

Be careful, I just purchased this ddr, thinking I would receive dual rank Micron E. What I received was Micron B single rank, that would not overclock past pc 3200 at all on my 570 motherboard.

This is the problem with the entire memory industry. They can bait and switch product around as much as they want as long as they meet the advertised spec.

Who cares if its dogshit-tier Vengeance LPX as long as it runs at 3200 C16 when used specifically as a dual-channel kit. Got four sticks? tough luck. Want to overclock? Tough luck again. Got a cheaper motherboard with T-Topology for compatibility rather than performance? Tough luck. You can't tell what you're going to get in the lottery until you plug it in and use software like Taiphoon, and your only course of action if you got shafted is to return for a refund.

I wish Samsung, Hynix, Micron just sold the memory with a description of what it was, rather than dumping whatever modules they feel like under the disguise of a "brand" name like Vengance, Trident, Viper, Ballistic etc.

It's as bad as the panel lottery used to be with 24" monitors with minimal chance that the reviewer's panel was even the same brand as the one you bought despite being the exact same model and revision as the reviewed model. I tend not to buy it (premium price, happy to play the memory lottery) but G.Skill Trident is generally good quality with headroom to ensure fantastic compatibility. It always works at the rated speed, usually because the rated speed is conservative and other manufacturers would label the exact same memory modules as a higher speed grade product knowing that it'll just about run at those speeds on a decent board.

 

[SirKronan]

Be careful, I just purchased this ddr, thinking I would receive dual rank Micron E. What I received was Micron B single rank, that would not overclock past pc 3200 at all on my 570 motherboard.

What CPU do you have?

 

[Footman]

Tested with both Ryzen 3600 and Ryzen 5600X.

Regardless, the memory is still Single Rank Micron B Die....