• Welcome to TechPowerUp Forums, Guest! Please check out our forum guidelines for info related to our community.

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti to Have Crippled Crypto-Mining Performance

Joined
Jul 30, 2019
Messages
3,338 (1.69/day)
System Name Still not a thread ripper but pretty good.
Processor Ryzen 9 7950x, Thermal Grizzly AM5 Offset Mounting Kit, Thermal Grizzly Extreme Paste
Motherboard ASRock B650 LiveMixer (BIOS/UEFI version P3.08, AGESA 1.2.0.2)
Cooling EK-Quantum Velocity, EK-Quantum Reflection PC-O11, D5 PWM, EK-CoolStream PE 360, XSPC TX360
Memory Micron DDR5-5600 ECC Unbuffered Memory (2 sticks, 64GB, MTC20C2085S1EC56BD1) + JONSBO NF-1
Video Card(s) XFX Radeon RX 5700 & EK-Quantum Vector Radeon RX 5700 +XT & Backplate
Storage Samsung 4TB 980 PRO, 2 x Optane 905p 1.5TB (striped), AMD Radeon RAMDisk
Display(s) 2 x 4K LG 27UL600-W (and HUANUO Dual Monitor Mount)
Case Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic Black (original model)
Audio Device(s) Corsair Commander Pro for Fans, RGB, & Temp Sensors (x4)
Power Supply Corsair RM750x
Mouse Logitech M575
Keyboard Corsair Strafe RGB MK.2
Software Windows 10 Professional (64bit)
Benchmark Scores RIP Ryzen 9 5950x, ASRock X570 Taichi (v1.06), 128GB Micron DDR4-3200 ECC UDIMM (18ASF4G72AZ-3G2F1)
It seems in a way perhaps unseen before graphics card companies have the power to steer crypto currency. What if they start picking winners and losers? What if they then demand crypto kickbacks in order to allow mining on their technology?
 
Joined
Jun 6, 2007
Messages
441 (0.07/day)
Location
Manchester, UK
System Name Colin #2 - the revenge!
Processor Ryzen 7 5800X3D
Motherboard Gigabyte B550 Aorus Elite V2
Cooling 4x Phanteks SK140 PWM & Arctic Freezer II 280 AIO
Memory TeamGroup Dark Pro 8 Pack 2 x16Gb dual rank B-die 3733MHz CL16
Video Card(s) MSI RTX 4080 Suprim X
Storage WD SN850X 1Tb + WD SN770 2Tb
Display(s) MSI MPG321URX
Case Phanteks P500A
Audio Device(s) Realtek ALC1200/1220
Power Supply 750W Corsair RM750
VR HMD PSVR2
I never thought I would spend this much on a graphics card but

1614884903514.jpeg


as long as I can get one for msrp anyway...
 
Joined
Sep 8, 2020
Messages
219 (0.14/day)
System Name Home
Processor 5950x
Motherboard Asrock Taichi x370
Cooling Thermalright True Spirit 140
Memory Patriot 32gb DDR4 3200mhz
Video Card(s) Sapphire Radeon RX 6700 10gb
Storage Too many to count
Display(s) U2518D+u2417h
Case Chieftec
Audio Device(s) onboard
Power Supply seasonic prime 1000W
Mouse Razer Viper
Keyboard Logitech
Software Windows 10
This will bite them in the ass eventually, with no one being able to upgrade, developers will hold back graphics to the level of gtx 1060 for many many years, sure there will be the occasional super sponsored title that needs to sell GPU's but the majority will need to have average graphics.
So if you have something in the range of 1060 you are fine for a long time, no need to upgrade.
 
Joined
Dec 28, 2012
Messages
3,956 (0.90/day)
System Name Skunkworks 3.0
Processor 5800x3d
Motherboard x570 unify
Cooling Noctua NH-U12A
Memory 32GB 3600 mhz
Video Card(s) asrock 6800xt challenger D
Storage Sabarent rocket 4.0 2TB, MX 500 2TB
Display(s) Asus 1440p144 27"
Case Old arse cooler master 932
Power Supply Corsair 1200w platinum
Mouse *squeak*
Keyboard Some old office thing
Software Manjaro
it does tend to suggest that all the hate directed at crypto miners is somewhat misplaced though.. :)

trog
Indeed. It's honestly surprising how many people just....forget there's a major worldwide panic going on, and shipping ANYTHING from china is a massive PITA right now, and has been for months. Gamers NExus has done several videos on the challenges associated with international shipping right now, hell members of TPU that work in the industry have detailed how slow some shipping has become.

Then there's the shortages of substrates, water shortages in thailand, and 7nm production bottlenecks. Everything from AMD is out of stock, and miners are not using them. I've yet to see a picture of a single miner farm using AMD hardware. It isn tjust miners doing this.

But no, it's all the miners fault.

This will bite them in the ass eventually, with no one being able to upgrade, developers will hold back graphics to the level of gtx 1060 for many many years, sure there will be the occasional super sponsored title that needs to sell GPU's but the majority will need to have average graphics.
So if you have something in the range of 1060 you are fine for a long time, no need to upgrade.
You'd be fine anyway. Most of this power is targeted at 4k, and somewhat less 1440p. My vega 64 still runs fine maxed out at 1440p and that's only 1080 level. If you dont need ultra everything and max AA then even the 980 can still hand at 1080p.

Graphics have long hit the point of good enough, and newer hardware is focused on higher framerates at high resolution. IF you are still gaming at 60 FPS then you really dont NEED that newer hardware. It's FOMO at its finest.
 
Joined
Dec 18, 2005
Messages
8,253 (1.19/day)
System Name money pit..
Processor Intel 9900K 4.8 at 1.152 core voltage minus 0.120 offset
Motherboard Asus rog Strix Z370-F Gaming
Cooling Dark Rock TF air cooler.. Stock vga air coolers with case side fans to help cooling..
Memory 32 gb corsair vengeance 3200
Video Card(s) Palit Gaming Pro OC 2080TI
Storage 150 nvme boot drive partition.. 1T Sandisk sata.. 1T Transend sata.. 1T 970 evo nvme m 2..
Display(s) 27" Asus PG279Q ROG Swift 165Hrz Nvidia G-Sync, IPS.. 2560x1440..
Case Gigabyte mid-tower.. cheap and nothing special..
Audio Device(s) onboard sounds with stereo amp..
Power Supply EVGA 850 watt..
Mouse Logitech G700s
Keyboard Logitech K270
Software Win 10 pro..
Benchmark Scores Firestike 29500.. timepsy 14000..
thinking long term supply aint gonna meet demand for a long time.. at least not at the prices expected by the average gamer.. so what happens next..

at present ebay seems to be the only free market price discovery mechanism.. the average gamer does seem somewhat shocked at this even if it is the way the world works..

the ebay price for readily available but mining gimped 3060 in the UK seems to be around £700 quid.. i would guess about the same in the US but in dollars.. UK prices carry 20% tax..

the bottom line for gamer or miner seem to be.. pay the going price or go without..

at present i have a spare 2080 ti card sat on my table.. when i get round to doing it.. it will go on ebay.. i recon it should fetch £1150 quid.. which is about £100 more than the 3080 card i bought about five weeks back.. :)

trog
 

qubit

Overclocked quantum bit
Joined
Dec 6, 2007
Messages
17,865 (2.87/day)
Location
Quantum Well UK
System Name Quantumville™
Processor Intel Core i7-2700K @ 4GHz
Motherboard Asus P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3
Cooling Noctua NH-D14
Memory 16GB (2 x 8GB Corsair Vengeance Black DDR3 PC3-12800 C9 1600MHz)
Video Card(s) MSI RTX 2080 SUPER Gaming X Trio
Storage Samsung 850 Pro 256GB | WD Black 4TB | WD Blue 6TB
Display(s) ASUS ROG Strix XG27UQR (4K, 144Hz, G-SYNC compatible) | Asus MG28UQ (4K, 60Hz, FreeSync compatible)
Case Cooler Master HAF 922
Audio Device(s) Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Fatal1ty PCIe
Power Supply Corsair AX1600i
Mouse Microsoft Intellimouse Pro - Black Shadow
Keyboard Yes
Software Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
I'll bet you the crypto lock will be broken within a day.
 
Joined
Dec 22, 2011
Messages
3,890 (0.82/day)
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
Motherboard MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK
Cooling AMD Wraith Prism
Memory Team Group Dark Pro 8Pack Edition 3600Mhz CL16
Video Card(s) NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 FE
Storage Kingston A2000 1TB + Seagate HDD workhorse
Display(s) Samsung 50" QN94A Neo QLED
Case Antec 1200
Power Supply Seasonic Focus GX-850
Mouse Razer Deathadder Chroma
Keyboard Logitech UltraX
Software Windows 11
Nvidia are just going to have to accept these will sell like hot cakes and make them loads of money.
 
Joined
Oct 25, 2005
Messages
193 (0.03/day)
Location
Long Island, NY
Processor 9700K
Motherboard Asrock Z390 Phantom Gaming-ITX/ac
Cooling Alpenfohn Black Ridge
Memory 32GB Micron VLP 18ADF2G72AZ-3G2E1
Video Card(s) 3090 FE
Display(s) Samsung G9 NEO
Case Formd T1
Power Supply Corsair SF750
I'll bet you the crypto lock will be broken within a day.
If specific crypto are really about giving everyone the opportunity to mine with a GPU, all they'd need to do is adjust their algorithm, or change the name of their binaries, basically counter whatever way nvidia is using to detect specific algorithms. It will just end in another cat and mouse game like copy protection.
 
Joined
Sep 24, 2020
Messages
227 (0.15/day)
Location
Stehekin, Washington
System Name (2008) Dell XPS 730x H2C
Processor Intel Extreme QX9770 @ 3.8GHz (No OC)
Motherboard Dell LGA 775 (Dell Propiatary)
Cooling Dell AIO Ceramic Water Cooling (Dell Propiatary)
Memory Corsair Dominator Platinum 16GB (4 x 4) DDR3
Video Card(s) EVGA GTX 980ti 6GB (2016 ebay-used)
Storage (2) WD 1TB Velociraptor & (1) WD 2TB Black
Display(s) Alienware 34" AW3420DW (Amazon Warehouse)
Case Stock Dell 730x with "X" Side Panel (65 pounds fully decked out)
Audio Device(s) Creative X-FI Titanium & Corsair SP2500 Speakers
Power Supply PSU: 1000 Watt (Dell Propiatary)
Mouse Alienware AW610M (Amazon Warehouse)
Keyboard Corsair K95 XT (Amazon Warehouse)
Software Windows 7 Ultimate & Alienware FX Lighting
Benchmark Scores No Benchmarking & Overclocking
I want my new video card.
Ultimately it will become glaringly clear that the entire 3000 series GPU debacle including the shortages was all about the money and profits. Latest NVIDIA record quarterly revenue $5 billion, up 61% year on year. Company full-year revenue up 53%. And all of this even without having sold about 90% of guaranteed sales inventories (3000 series cards) to people virtually staying in line with cash in their hands begging for such sales. Life continues to be very good for NVIDIA.

Perhaps the people waiting in line now with cash in their hands should buy NVIDIA stock instead and sell later this year around December? With the profits made and those then deducted from the MSRP of GPU's proffered at that time, one may be lucky to landing a 3080ti at the price now being estimated it will then or ultimately be marketed for? One of the Bangladesh boys at our local stripcenter PC shop said: "You have to have patience my friend, it will save you money and aggravation. Besides the cash is better in your pocket then with NVIDIA. Remember though the pricing for GPU's will only go one way and that is up."
 
Joined
Oct 25, 2005
Messages
193 (0.03/day)
Location
Long Island, NY
Processor 9700K
Motherboard Asrock Z390 Phantom Gaming-ITX/ac
Cooling Alpenfohn Black Ridge
Memory 32GB Micron VLP 18ADF2G72AZ-3G2E1
Video Card(s) 3090 FE
Display(s) Samsung G9 NEO
Case Formd T1
Power Supply Corsair SF750
Because nobody has ever flashed their VBIOS before :rolleyes:
Most newer stuff has checks to make sure a bios is valid or unmodified, or they are encrypted. There hasn't been an nvidia bios editor in a while now for that reason. Unless you are gonna hex edit and directly program ICs, and risk ruining your expensive GPU...
 
Joined
Sep 24, 2020
Messages
227 (0.15/day)
Location
Stehekin, Washington
System Name (2008) Dell XPS 730x H2C
Processor Intel Extreme QX9770 @ 3.8GHz (No OC)
Motherboard Dell LGA 775 (Dell Propiatary)
Cooling Dell AIO Ceramic Water Cooling (Dell Propiatary)
Memory Corsair Dominator Platinum 16GB (4 x 4) DDR3
Video Card(s) EVGA GTX 980ti 6GB (2016 ebay-used)
Storage (2) WD 1TB Velociraptor & (1) WD 2TB Black
Display(s) Alienware 34" AW3420DW (Amazon Warehouse)
Case Stock Dell 730x with "X" Side Panel (65 pounds fully decked out)
Audio Device(s) Creative X-FI Titanium & Corsair SP2500 Speakers
Power Supply PSU: 1000 Watt (Dell Propiatary)
Mouse Alienware AW610M (Amazon Warehouse)
Keyboard Corsair K95 XT (Amazon Warehouse)
Software Windows 7 Ultimate & Alienware FX Lighting
Benchmark Scores No Benchmarking & Overclocking
I want my new video card.
Ultimately it will become glaringly clear that the entire 3000 series GPU debacle including the shortages was all about the money and profits. Latest NVIDIA record quarterly revenue $5 billion, up 61% year on year. Company full-year revenue up 53%. And all of this even without having sold about 90% of guaranteed sales inventories (3000 series cards) to people virtually staying in line with cash in their hands begging for such sales. Life continues to be very good for NVIDIA.

Perhaps the people waiting in line now with cash in their hands should buy NVIDIA stock instead and sell later this year around December? With the profits made and those then deducted from the MSRP of GPU's proffered at that time, one may be lucky to landing a 3080ti at the price now being estimated it will then or ultimately be marketed for? One of the Bangladesh boys at our local stripcenter PC shop said: "You have to have patience my friend, it will save you money and aggravation. Besides the cash is better in your pocket then with NVIDIA. Remember though the pricing for GPU's will only go one way and that is up."
 
Joined
Feb 18, 2012
Messages
2,715 (0.58/day)
System Name MSI GP76
Processor intel i7 11800h
Cooling 2 laptop fans
Memory 32gb of 3000mhz DDR4
Video Card(s) Nvidia 3070
Storage x2 PNY 8tb cs2130 m.2 SSD--16tb of space
Display(s) 17.3" IPS 1920x1080 240Hz
Power Supply 280w laptop power supply
Mouse Logitech m705
Keyboard laptop keyboard
Software lots of movies and Windows 10 with win 7 shell
Benchmark Scores Good enough for me
Hashrate limiter is just a gimmick from Nvidia.

AMD now has stated that they have no plans for a hashrate limiter so it is just a matter of time before Nvidia anonymously "leaks" a work around to keep miners buying the cards. This way they will look like the good guy and still make all that juicy money from the miners.

End of the day Nvidia is only interested in their bottom line, do not fall for the PR crap "We care about gamers" they are trying to feed the world. They never did before and will not in the future. Nvidia will trample down anybody to make an extra buck even gamers.
You write like all miners have lots of juiced up juicy money. Nvidia makes lots of other products besides graphics cards for gamers. There is a world wide silicon shortage.
 
Joined
Mar 18, 2015
Messages
2,963 (0.83/day)
Location
Long Island
No matter what way they go there will always be whiners .... Gamers complain about the high price of new cards when gamers are the major cause of the high prices. Every time a new card comes out they are employing shopping bots and staying up late at night trying to snag a new card ... why ? Well 1) miners are snapping up the new cards.... and when a company comes out and says, we going to to gimp the cards to make them less attractive to minters, they are against that. The other reasion 2) is, in the instagram era, ones social status and sense of wealth is tied to having the latest and greatest, phone, GFX card and new gadget. We told our users back year ago ... hold off till sanity re-emerges.

Oh and the profits oriented whiners .... try and understand that company officers are legally required to maximize profits. That's like complaining about a shark that "eats things". Go to fish market .... fish that are commomplace are cheap ... and they gotta sell them before they go bad. Fish that are out of season or just a low harvest week cost more. Don't like the cost for swordfish ? ... don't buy it .... when it sits on the shelves, the prices will drop. Everybody is trying to keep the doors open and in a pandemic thats harder. If you are sellng X number of cards a week, you can live with a Y % markup .... when ya sellong 20% of X to pay the bills, you need to charge 5 times as much. But when they stop selling, the doors close so taking a loss is better than closing the doors.

Since GFX cards became a thing, there have always been workstation cards and gaming cards .... same hardware different firmware and drivers. Making separate cards gamers and other commerical oriented users is the historical norm, not a new thing.
 
Joined
Mar 7, 2010
Messages
993 (0.18/day)
Location
Michigan
System Name Daves
Processor AMD Ryzen 3900x
Motherboard AsRock X570 Taichi
Cooling Enermax LIQMAX III 360
Memory 32 GiG Team Group B Die 3600
Video Card(s) Powercolor 5700 xt Red Devil
Storage Crucial MX 500 SSD and Intel P660 NVME 2TB for games
Display(s) Acer 144htz 27in. 2560x1440
Case Phanteks P600S
Audio Device(s) N/A
Power Supply Corsair RM 750
Mouse EVGA
Keyboard Corsair Strafe
Software Windows 10 Pro
Should AMD follow suit or are AMD cards already crippled for mining?
 

qubit

Overclocked quantum bit
Joined
Dec 6, 2007
Messages
17,865 (2.87/day)
Location
Quantum Well UK
System Name Quantumville™
Processor Intel Core i7-2700K @ 4GHz
Motherboard Asus P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3
Cooling Noctua NH-D14
Memory 16GB (2 x 8GB Corsair Vengeance Black DDR3 PC3-12800 C9 1600MHz)
Video Card(s) MSI RTX 2080 SUPER Gaming X Trio
Storage Samsung 850 Pro 256GB | WD Black 4TB | WD Blue 6TB
Display(s) ASUS ROG Strix XG27UQR (4K, 144Hz, G-SYNC compatible) | Asus MG28UQ (4K, 60Hz, FreeSync compatible)
Case Cooler Master HAF 922
Audio Device(s) Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Fatal1ty PCIe
Power Supply Corsair AX1600i
Mouse Microsoft Intellimouse Pro - Black Shadow
Keyboard Yes
Software Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
If specific crypto are really about giving everyone the opportunity to mine with a GPU, all they'd need to do is adjust their algorithm, or change the name of their binaries, basically counter whatever way nvidia is using to detect specific algorithms. It will just end in another cat and mouse game like copy protection.
Exactly. Couldn’t agree more.

Detecting the algorithm is not like a switch.
 
Joined
Dec 16, 2012
Messages
540 (0.12/day)
Processor AMD Ryzen R7 5800x
Motherboard B550i Aorus Pro AX
Cooling Custom Cooling
Memory 32Gb Patriot Viper 3600 RGB
Video Card(s) MSI RTX 3080 Ventus Trio OC
Storage Samsung 960 EVO
Display(s) Specterpro 34uw100
Case SSUPD Meshlicious
Power Supply Cooler Master V750 Gold SFX
Mouse Glorious Model D Wireless
Keyboard Ducky One 2
VR HMD Quest 2
Software Windows 11 64bit
What is this large gap between the 3080 and 3090 are they talking about?
 

bug

Joined
May 22, 2015
Messages
13,843 (3.95/day)
Processor Intel i5-12600k
Motherboard Asus H670 TUF
Cooling Arctic Freezer 34
Memory 2x16GB DDR4 3600 G.Skill Ripjaws V
Video Card(s) EVGA GTX 1060 SC
Storage 500GB Samsung 970 EVO, 500GB Samsung 850 EVO, 1TB Crucial MX300 and 2TB Crucial MX500
Display(s) Dell U3219Q + HP ZR24w
Case Raijintek Thetis
Audio Device(s) Audioquest Dragonfly Red :D
Power Supply Seasonic 620W M12
Mouse Logitech G502 Proteus Core
Keyboard G.Skill KM780R
Software Arch Linux + Win10
If specific crypto are really about giving everyone the opportunity to mine with a GPU, all they'd need to do is adjust their algorithm, or change the name of their binaries, basically counter whatever way nvidia is using to detect specific algorithms. It will just end in another cat and mouse game like copy protection.
Except that you can't change the algorithm. There aren't many ways to generate a hash, it's a math formula.
 
Joined
Nov 21, 2010
Messages
2,355 (0.46/day)
Location
Right where I want to be
System Name Miami
Processor Ryzen 3800X
Motherboard Asus Crosshair VII Formula
Cooling Ek Velocity/ 2x 280mm Radiators/ Alphacool fullcover
Memory F4-3600C16Q-32GTZNC
Video Card(s) XFX 6900 XT Speedster 0
Storage 1TB WD M.2 SSD/ 2TB WD SN750/ 4TB WD Black HDD
Display(s) DELL AW3420DW / HP ZR24w
Case Lian Li O11 Dynamic XL
Audio Device(s) EVGA Nu Audio
Power Supply Seasonic Prime Gold 1000W+750W
Mouse Corsair Scimitar/Glorious Model O-
Keyboard Corsair K95 Platinum
Software Windows 10 Pro
I wonder how crippled? Even 50% is going to be 50-ish Mh/s, and a price/performance isnt going to make sense, but miners will still buy it I'd bet

Miners have no reason not to buy it, they already cracked the 3060, and even if they can't be bothered to remove the limits, the card only detects ETH, they can mine all the other coins as they please.
 

Mussels

Freshwater Moderator
Joined
Oct 6, 2004
Messages
58,413 (7.91/day)
Location
Oystralia
System Name Rainbow Sparkles (Power efficient, <350W gaming load)
Processor Ryzen R7 5800x3D (Undervolted, 4.45GHz all core)
Motherboard Asus x570-F (BIOS Modded)
Cooling Alphacool Apex UV - Alphacool Eisblock XPX Aurora + EK Quantum ARGB 3090 w/ active backplate
Memory 2x32GB DDR4 3600 Corsair Vengeance RGB @3866 C18-22-22-22-42 TRFC704 (1.4V Hynix MJR - SoC 1.15V)
Video Card(s) Galax RTX 3090 SG 24GB: Underclocked to 1700Mhz 0.750v (375W down to 250W))
Storage 2TB WD SN850 NVME + 1TB Sasmsung 970 Pro NVME + 1TB Intel 6000P NVME USB 3.2
Display(s) Phillips 32 32M1N5800A (4k144), LG 32" (4K60) | Gigabyte G32QC (2k165) | Phillips 328m6fjrmb (2K144)
Case Fractal Design R6
Audio Device(s) Logitech G560 | Corsair Void pro RGB |Blue Yeti mic
Power Supply Fractal Ion+ 2 860W (Platinum) (This thing is God-tier. Silent and TINY)
Mouse Logitech G Pro wireless + Steelseries Prisma XL
Keyboard Razer Huntsman TE ( Sexy white keycaps)
VR HMD Oculus Rift S + Quest 2
Software Windows 11 pro x64 (Yes, it's genuinely a good OS) OpenRGB - ditch the branded bloatware!
Benchmark Scores Nyooom.
I kinda wonder if they are sure impact will be only for mining. Will see.
the driver can override it, if it blocks something they want to work
 
Joined
Feb 18, 2012
Messages
2,715 (0.58/day)
System Name MSI GP76
Processor intel i7 11800h
Cooling 2 laptop fans
Memory 32gb of 3000mhz DDR4
Video Card(s) Nvidia 3070
Storage x2 PNY 8tb cs2130 m.2 SSD--16tb of space
Display(s) 17.3" IPS 1920x1080 240Hz
Power Supply 280w laptop power supply
Mouse Logitech m705
Keyboard laptop keyboard
Software lots of movies and Windows 10 with win 7 shell
Benchmark Scores Good enough for me
What is this large gap between the 3080 and 3090 are they talking about?
It was talking about the large difference in price.

No matter what way they go there will always be whiners .... Gamers complain about the high price of new cards when gamers are the major cause of the high prices. Every time a new card comes out they are employing shopping bots and staying up late at night trying to snag a new card ... why ? Well 1) miners are snapping up the new cards.... and when a company comes out and says, we going to to gimp the cards to make them less attractive to minters, they are against that. The other reasion 2) is, in the instagram era, ones social status and sense of wealth is tied to having the latest and greatest, phone, GFX card and new gadget. We told our users back year ago ... hold off till sanity re-emerges.

Oh and the profits oriented whiners .... try and understand that company officers are legally required to maximize profits. That's like complaining about a shark that "eats things". Go to fish market .... fish that are commomplace are cheap ... and they gotta sell them before they go bad. Fish that are out of season or just a low harvest week cost more. Don't like the cost for swordfish ? ... don't buy it .... when it sits on the shelves, the prices will drop. Everybody is trying to keep the doors open and in a pandemic thats harder. If you are sellng X number of cards a week, you can live with a Y % markup .... when ya sellong 20% of X to pay the bills, you need to charge 5 times as much. But when they stop selling, the doors close so taking a loss is better than closing the doors.

Since GFX cards became a thing, there have always been workstation cards and gaming cards .... same hardware different firmware and drivers. Making separate cards gamers and other commerical oriented users is the historical norm, not a new thing.
People dont know but some time over 90+(-)years ago, lobsters where so abundant in the ocean that is was considered poor people's food and giving freely to prisoners. Today, lobster is considered more of a luxury for higher income folks since its been so over fished in most areas.
 

LjMjollnir

New Member
Joined
Mar 5, 2021
Messages
2 (0.00/day)
If NVIDIA leaks the code intentionally whose gonna buy their CMP line?
Not saying leaks won't happen, just saying if it did happen it would not be in NVIDIA's interest.

CMP is a load of shyt... there is absolutely no resale value on it.. Miners already dont want it since they cant offload it later at a reasonable price.. Nvidia want to sell off CMP because of the no resale value so it doesnt affect future product prices that would be the only reason they dont leak the code ;)

CMP just takes usable chips away from real cards...
 
Joined
Feb 18, 2012
Messages
2,715 (0.58/day)
System Name MSI GP76
Processor intel i7 11800h
Cooling 2 laptop fans
Memory 32gb of 3000mhz DDR4
Video Card(s) Nvidia 3070
Storage x2 PNY 8tb cs2130 m.2 SSD--16tb of space
Display(s) 17.3" IPS 1920x1080 240Hz
Power Supply 280w laptop power supply
Mouse Logitech m705
Keyboard laptop keyboard
Software lots of movies and Windows 10 with win 7 shell
Benchmark Scores Good enough for me
CMP is a load of shyt... there is absolutely no resale value on it.. Miners already dont want it since they cant offload it later at a reasonable price.. Nvidia want to sell off CMP because of the no resale value so it doesnt affect future product prices that would be the only reason they dont leak the code ;)

CMP just takes usable chips away from real cards...
Mining cards are real cards. Nvidia is also trying to cater to the mining market.
 

LjMjollnir

New Member
Joined
Mar 5, 2021
Messages
2 (0.00/day)
Mining cards are real cards. Nvidia is also trying to cater to the mining market.
Exactly they are "real" but have no video output... so the Factories that make chips can only make so many a year right.. you with me here ???....
ANY chip that is being used in a Mining Card is a Chip that is NOT going into a gaming card... Still with me ???

Nvidia is trying to make more money.. they DONT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT where the money comes from ;)... if they can sell a Miner card that has NO resell value and therefore cannot affect Future Card sales they dont care about gamers ;)...

Any miner card is just waste... a Gamer card being used as a mining card will eventually sold and some lucky gamer will get a decent card cheaply secondhand... which also helps to drive down the value of New cards as there is less demand...

CMP that doesnt happen... CMP is REALLY bad for gamers.... and pretty bad for Miners (no resell value)

 
Top