Intel Launches 11th Gen Core "Rocket Lake": Unmatched Overclocking and Gaming Performance

[Hachi_Roku256563]

I admire value and the fact Intel allows us poors to build a solid gaming rig for cheaper than what AMD allows. That and I'm all for plug & play builds these days. If you look at the System Builders Advice forum on here there's a couple of threads that are two and three pages deep on what RAM to get for an AMD build. I see that and all I can think is 'wtf'.

Yeah thats why their apus are rubbish forcing you to get a dgpu
Vega DUNKS on any intel gpu

 

[lightning70]

The i9 is very expensive. The foremost processors I've seen in this series are the 11400F and 11700F.

 

[hat]

Didn't see the last post .. I'll check it out in a bit. Meanwhile there's a reason Intel puts out locked and unlocked cpu's. Unlocked ones are for the small minority who don't mind paying more for cooling along with a board with heftier VRM's for that small gain it brings. The rest of us look at the benchmarks along with the savings and thank ourselves for going with the locked cpu. That's where the math comes in or didn't you figure that out yet.

I remember a time when neither CPU, nor RAM settings were locked by either company. Sure we didn't have sensibly priced chips with unlocked multipliers, but nobody cared because we could just adjust FSB. Not anymore... and locking users out of setting whatever memory speeds they want unless you buy such and such special kit is a bit of a low blow. Even now Intel is only beginning to graciously allow us to do so with midrange equipment.

 

[Melvis]

Unlike AMD, Intel obviously cares about the poor people who want a decent gaming cpu at an affordable price.

This has to be sarcasm right? there is no way this isnt? or your brand new to computers?

The money saved by going with the cheaper yet faster intel build can be put towards other components such as a larger SSD or even a non existent gpu (damn you miners).

This sounds exactly what us would say about AMD for the past oh I dont know 20yrs? lol

 

[Deleted member 205776]

This has to be sarcasm right? there is no way this isnt? or your brand new to computers?

We tried explaining it to him, it's a lost cause

 

[Why_Me]

This has to be sarcasm right? there is no way this isnt? or your brand new to computers?


This sounds exactly what us would say about AMD for the past oh I dont know 20yrs? lol

Yet I doubt you can post an AMD build as cheap as an Intel build that will match its performance.

 

[Deleted member 205776]

Yet I doubt you can post an AMD build as cheap as an Intel build that will match its performance.

While it's true that Intel builds can be cheaper nowadays, you fail to understand that they've never been the budget option until Zen 3 appeared. AMD will once again be the budget option when Intel releases something good. And if you do understand, why are you still going on with this idea? If anything, throughout both companies' lifetime, AMD has been the cheaper option. Nobody bats an eye until they suddenly increase prices on something, then that's a problem.

 

[Why_Me]

While it's true that Intel builds can be cheaper nowadays, you fail to understand that they've never been the budget option until Zen 3 appeared. AMD will once again be the budget option when Intel releases something good. And if you do understand, why are you still going on with this idea? If anything, throughout both companies' lifetime, AMD has been the cheaper option. Nobody bats an eye until they suddenly increase prices on something, then that's a problem.

I can post an Intel build for cheaper that will run circles around a similar AMD build. Intel cares

 

[Hachi_Roku256563]

I can post an Intel build for cheaper that will run circles around a similar AMD build. Intel cares

ok do that without a gpu
ill wait

 

[Why_Me]

https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Ryzen-3-6GHz-Cache-Desktop/dp/B081TL8XTM/
AMD Ryzen 5 3600 $229.99

https://www.amazon.com/Intel-i5-10400F-Desktop-Processor-Graphics/dp/B086MHSTWN/
Intel Core i5-10400F $152.00

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Intel Core i7-10700F $268.23

 

[Mussels]

Aight, at this point it's just trolling

 

[Super XP]

Nothing interesting about this launch. Its the same old CPUs trying to keep up with new ZEN3 tech.
I welcome the competition of course. But its not always rosy with how Intel conducts its business practices unfortunately.

Did those clock speeds regress?

And yes people PC Hardware is Well Over Priced. Lets all thank Crypto Mining for all these Ripoff prices we are witnessing. When is the Crypto Bubble going to burst? I don't see an end to this. You?

 

[coozie78]

I can post an Intel build for cheaper that will run circles around a similar AMD build. Intel cares

Post one that can match my 3900X for CPU rendering, pal.
We don't all just play games!

And, amazingly, ON TOPIC: Not impressed, not at all, and that Anandtech review others have mentioned isn't getting me excited either.
The way things are going my current 3900X/1080Ti is going to have to keep going for MUCH longer.

 

[Deleted member 205776]

Would rather not repeat myself trying to explain common sense to Why_Me (curious how a certain person is liking all his posts), because as Mussels said at this point it's just trolling.

The way things are going my current 3900X/1080Ti is going to have to keep going for MUCH longer.

I am underestimating my 3070 way too much due to that 8 GB of VRAM, probably. Otherwise, same CPU. Hope it lasts.

 

[Chrispy_]

Yeah thats why their apus are rubbish forcing you to get a dgpu
Vega DUNKS on any intel gpu

Gotta admit, I'm tempted to pick up a TigerLake i5. The i5-1135G7 appears to be in the same ballpark as a 4700U's Vega7; never more than 15% slower and sometimes more than 15% faster.

Vega integrated graphics DUNKED on any Intel IGP when it was launched four years ago but Vega has stagnated whilst Intel have been making huge gains with their IGPs every generation since then.

I mean, the guy who designed Vega and learnt all the lessons of Vega has been working for Intel for those same four years.

 

[Deleted member 205776]

Gotta admit, I'm tempted to pick up a TigerLake i5. The i5-1135G7 appears to be in the same ballpark as a 4700U's Vega7; never more than 15% slower and sometimes more than 15% faster.

Vega integrated graphics DUNKED on any Intel IGP when it was launched four years ago but Vega has stagnated whilst Intel have been making huge gains with their IGPs every generation since then.

I mean, the guy who designed Vega and learnt all the lessons of Vega has been working for Intel for those same four years.

Can't argue with that, Intel has been progressing nicely in the iGPU department lately.

 

[Hachi_Roku256563]

Gotta admit, I'm tempted to pick up a TigerLake i5. The i5-1135G7 appears to be in the same ballpark as a 4700U's Vega7; never more than 15% slower and sometimes more than 15% faster.

Vega integrated graphics DUNKED on any Intel IGP when it was launched four years ago but Vega has stagnated whilst Intel have been making huge gains with their IGPs every generation since then.

I mean, the guy who designed Vega and learnt all the lessons of Vega has been working for Intel for those same four years.

but the latest gen of vega is still ahead

 

[Why_Me]

Post one that can match my 3900X for CPU rendering, pal.
We don't all just play games!

And, amazingly, ON TOPIC: Not impressed, not at all, and that Anandtech review others have mentioned isn't getting me excited either.
The way things are going my current 3900X/1080Ti is going to have to keep going for MUCH longer.

I didn't realize the 3900X was such a beast until I looked at the benchmarks (yes I'm eating crow atm).

Intel Core i9-10900 Review - Fail at Stock, Impressive when Unlocked

In our Core i9-10900 review we're taking a close look at what can be gained from unlocking the power limit of this 65 W processor. Results are impressive: up to 40% faster apps and performance that rivals the Core i9-10900K at much lower pricing, but heat output is increased, too.

www.techpowerup.com

 

[Chrispy_]

but the latest gen of vega is still ahead

Yeah, barely.
Vega's lead is debatable over 96EU Xe in the i7. It varies from game to game and doesn't win them all, just a majority.
I'm looking at Vega7 vs the 80EU Xe in the i5, and that's equally not a clear-cut win for Vega.

Back when Vega IGPs launched, AMD were 60-100% faster. Now the latest generation of Vega's average lead is maybe 5-10% and the supply/availability of decent 4700U/4800U laptops is terrible compared to the huge number of design wins for Tiger Lake. I can find a good quality, all-metal chassis, dual-channel, 16GB, 300+ nits display i5 laptops far more easily and for a better price than I can find a similar thing in 4700U or higher. I really like my 2700U laptop but I've been waiting to replace it for a year now and the choices in that time have been unappealing - either bad laptops or hideously overpriced. There are multiple good Tiger Lake options and it's only been on the market for a couple of months, unlike Renoir which supposedly launched in February 2020.

I didn't realize the 3900X was such a beast until I looked at the benchmarks (yes I'm eating crow atm).

Intel Core i9-10900 Review - Fail at Stock, Impressive when Unlocked

In our Core i9-10900 review we're taking a close look at what can be gained from unlocking the power limit of this 65 W processor. Results are impressive: up to 40% faster apps and performance that rivals the Core i9-10900K at much lower pricing, but heat output is increased, too.

www.techpowerup.com

I bought a 5800X for myself but I'm still using the 3900X I pinched from work because it's a beast, even at stock. I guess 64MB L3 Cache is still incredible even if it's split into four chunks

 

[Deleted member 205776]

Can confirm, my 3900X is a good boy

 

[Mussels]

I didn't realize the 3900X was such a beast until I looked at the benchmarks (yes I'm eating crow atm).

Intel Core i9-10900 Review - Fail at Stock, Impressive when Unlocked

In our Core i9-10900 review we're taking a close look at what can be gained from unlocking the power limit of this 65 W processor. Results are impressive: up to 40% faster apps and performance that rivals the Core i9-10900K at much lower pricing, but heat output is increased, too.

www.techpowerup.com

Many reviews want the unit to look good, so they only show the times it wins (intel CPU's that means gaming results, specifically DX9/DX11 titles)


When you find unbiased reviews oh boy, AMD has some areas they just absolutely dominate (the 12 and 16 core parts are absurd for rendering and workloads)

 

[Melvis]

Yet I doubt you can post an AMD build as cheap as an Intel build that will match its performance.

Ok Sure

Intel Build:
11700K $649
MSI Z490-A Pro $239
2x8GB DDR4 3600Mhz $129
Powercolor 6700XT Red Devil $999
Case $62
Silverstone PSU Gold 750W $149
SSD 500GB $89

Total $2316

AMD Build
5800X $650 (Amazon Australia)
Gigabyte X570 UD $189
2x8GB DDR4 3600Mhz $129
Powercolor 6700XT Red Devil $999
Case $62
Silverstone PSU Gold 750W $149
SSD 500GB $89

Total $2267

There ya go son, two exact same builds, one AMD, one Intel with prices directly from the best online computer store in Australia (ill include screen shots for you) and as you can see and already know the AMD system is already proven to be faster look at the review online and also using the cheapest Z490 and X570 Motherboards BUT note that the AMD build can be even cheaper as you can use a B450 Motherboard that will allow Memory and CPU overclocking so thats considered a mid price for the AMD build not the cheapest Amazon did not have the 11700k listed at all in AUS.

So you was saying?

 

[Why_Me]

Ok Sure

Intel Build:
11700K $649
MSI Z490-A Pro $239
2x8GB DDR4 3600Mhz $129
Powercolor 6700XT Red Devil $999
Case $62
Silverstone PSU Gold 750W $149
SSD 500GB $89

Total $2316

AMD Build
5800X $650 (Amazon Australia)
Gigabyte X570 UD $189
2x8GB DDR4 3600Mhz $129
Powercolor 6700XT Red Devil $999
Case $62
Silverstone PSU Gold 750W $149
SSD 500GB $89

Total $2267

There ya go son, two exact same builds, one AMD, one Intel with prices directly from the best online computer store in Australia (ill include screen shots for you) and as you can see and already know the AMD system is already proven to be faster look at the review online and also using the cheapest Z490 and X570 Motherboards BUT note that the AMD build can be even cheaper as you can use a B450 Motherboard that will allow Memory and CPU overclocking so thats considered a mid price for the AMD build not the cheapest Amazon did not have the 11700k listed at all in AUS.

So you was saying?

In USD ... feel free to add a case, psu, gpu & SSD to this build.

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813157976
ASRock B560 Steel Legend $129.99

Expect this cpu to show up on Newegg any day now.

https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=100007671 601361546
Intel Core i7-11700F Rocket Lake ($350 if I had to guess)

https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-RR-212S-20PK-R1-Contact-Silencio/dp/B07H25DYM3/
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black Edition CPU Air Cooler $39.99

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G.SKILL Aegis 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4 3200 CL16 Intel XMP 2.0 $79.99

Total: $600

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https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Ryzen-5800X-16-Thread-Processor/dp/B0815XFSGK/

AMD Ryzen 7 5800X $449

btw what cpu cooler would you recommend for that 5800X?

 

[Mussels]

5800x runs fine on a 120mm air cooler.

It's the densest CPU ever made, so it puts out a low amount of heat to a tiny area, making it hard to read low temps from.

That chip can run 90C at 100W, where an intel can run 50C at 300W just because the heat is spread out more on the intel - and it means NOTHING because the chips is designed to run at that heat, long term.

 

[Melvis]

In USD ... feel free to add a case, psu, gpu & SSD to this build.

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813157976
ASRock B560 Steel Legend $129.99

Expect this cpu to show up on Newegg any day now.

https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=100007671 601361546
Intel Core i7-11700F Rocket Lake ($350 if I had to guess)

https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-RR-212S-20PK-R1-Contact-Silencio/dp/B07H25DYM3/
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black Edition CPU Air Cooler $39.99

G.SKILL Aegis 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) Memory Kit Model F4-3200C16D-16GIS - Newegg.com

Buy G.SKILL Aegis 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) Memory Kit Model F4-3200C16D-16GIS with fast shipping and top-rated customer service. Once you know, you Newegg!

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G.SKILL Aegis 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4 3200 CL16 Intel XMP 2.0 $79.99

Total: $600

Intel Core i7-10700 vs Core i7-10700K Review: Is 65W Comet Lake an Option?

www.anandtech.com

https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Ryzen-5800X-16-Thread-Processor/dp/B0815XFSGK/

AMD Ryzen 7 5800X $449

btw what cpu cooler would you recommend for that 5800X?

Naaa im good I proved ya wrong and thats that, and the cooler means nothing as they apparently both run hot so get the same cooler for both, in the end its the same result AND I didnt even mention that you can upgrade your CPU even more on the AMD platform where you cant on the intel, its just a better socket period. Move along