Intel Launches 11th Gen Core "Rocket Lake": Unmatched Overclocking and Gaming Performance

[Mussels]

Yeah... i'm giving up. Why_me is either trolling, or just deluded.

Peace and out.

 

[Gmr_Chick]

Back in the day .. 12 - 15 years ago if I had to guess, I used to post builds on a site called Tomshardware. I didn't become prejudiced until I started to get fed up with the AMD fanbois on there .. and it wasn't only there but another site called Guru3d. Ever since AMD got the drop on Intel they've become only worse.

I suggest you take a good long look in the mirror, then. Because if your delusional posts have stated anything, it's that you're an Intel fanboy. Worse than that, you're a DELUSIONAL Intel fanboy. Like, you can't even accept the facts that numerous people here have blatantly stated -- multiple times -- and see the writing on the damn wall! I mean shit, there are people here who prefer Intel over AMD, sure, but they actually have a lick of sense and admit that Intel has been releasing crap lately. You don't see them living in a fantasy world like you clearly are.

Meanwhile there's a reason Intel puts out locked and unlocked cpu's. Unlocked ones are for the small minority who don't mind paying more for cooling along with a board with heftier VRM's for that small gain it brings. The rest of us look at the benchmarks along with the savings and thank ourselves for going with the locked cpu.

Or, ya know, rather than this locked/unlocked BS, if Intel really gave two shits about the "poor" PC gamer, they'd be more like Ryzen (or hell, going even further back, the FX series) and have fully unlocked chips up and down the stack, thereby giving the end user the freedom to OC the chip or simply leave it stock - say the user is wanting to learn about OCing and wants to try overclocking -- they can do that on the Ryzen, without the need for a K series SKU from Intel or a Z series board (within reason of course. Don't want to be OCing an R9 level CPU on a B450 or gods forbid an A520, lol).

Let's cut the crap shall we. Anyone who thinks the 5600X is a better option for the money vs the i7 10700F in regards to gaming needs to get a reality check.

Yes, let's cut the crap. It's YOU that needs the reality check.

 

[Why_Me]

I suggest you take a good long look in the mirror, then. Because if your delusional posts have stated anything, it's that you're an Intel fanboy. Worse than that, you're a DELUSIONAL Intel fanboy. Like, you can't even accept the facts that numerous people here have blatantly stated -- multiple times -- and see the writing on the damn wall! I mean shit, there are people here who prefer Intel over AMD, sure, but they actually have a lick of sense and admit that Intel has been releasing crap lately. You don't see them living in a fantasy world like you clearly are.



Or, ya know, rather than this locked/unlocked BS, if Intel really gave two shits about the "poor" PC gamer, they'd be more like Ryzen (or hell, going even further back, the FX series) and have fully unlocked chips up and down the stack, thereby giving the end user the freedom to OC the chip or simply leave it stock - say the user is wanting to learn about OCing and wants to try overclocking -- they can do that on the Ryzen, without the need for a K series SKU from Intel or a Z series board (within reason of course. Don't want to be OCing an R9 level CPU on a B450 or gods forbid an A520, lol).



Yes, let's cut the crap. It's YOU that needs the reality check.

I posted links along with benchmarks and prices. I realize it might be difficult for some to swallow but the fact of the matter is Intel is the better deal atm in regards to gaming builds. As far as locked cpu's vs unlocked .. nobody has a gun held to their head forcing them to choose one over the other. Like I've posted before, OC as far as Intel builds are concerned is going the way of the manual transmission. It's more of a hobbyist thing anymore.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

Not sure if anyone's posted this

 

[Caring1]

Not sure if anyone's posted this

Twice now, that I have seen

 

[Super XP]

Should I mention this again? Intel is in Big Trouble? This is an opportunity for AMD once again to plough into the market place and gain lots more market share as they deserve.
Reward those that step up with real tech innovations and organic improvements.

And to all the So Called Intel Fanboys, AMD went through this long phase with its Bulldozer Design, all while building ZEN in the backend quietly. Competition is a good thing and its great to see a much smaller AMD company pounding in the flesh of a much larger Intel company, that hasn't played very nice for 25+ years now.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

Twice now, that I have seen

Working so didn't have time to check.... watched it on my lunch found it interesting/disappointing

Mildly impressed by what intel is getting out of 14nm but beyond that hopefully alderlake is good.

 

[mouacyk]

4th iteration of 14nm producing 8-cores/16-threads that overclocks to 5.2GHz/5.3GHz on Coffee Lake was awesome. That was a worthwhile ROI on the node. But 5th and 6th iterations without any significant returns -- 19% IPC uplift in specific scenarios and more like 1-5% IPC in general use? That's just stale business -- it's a thing. If only they would have poured their billions into going beyond 14nm, the IPC ROI would have been closer to 75-100% at 7nm.

 

[INSTG8R]

Sorry for the Tom’s but good chart.

 

[Deleted member 205776]

Sorry for the Tom’s but good chart.
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*pats 3900X* it's okay, you're good enough

 

[INSTG8R]

*pats 3900X* it's okay, you're good enough

Liked seeing my 5600X punching hard near the top

 

[Deleted member 205776]

I'll be holding onto my baby until DDR5 matures lol

 

[INSTG8R]

I'll be holding onto my baby until DDR5 matures lol

Well I built this rig with Zen 3 as my "endgame" and had a 3700X as a "placeholder" actually I was only gonna grab a 3600X but they weren't in stock. My rig is just missing my RNDA2 card and it's finished and I will join you waiting for AM5/DDR5 or whatever ends up being the next "leap"
I mean my previous rig was a 4790K I ran from shortly after it was released until I to start building this one late last summer. I will be satisfied with it for at least a few years if need be.

 

[Why_Me]

Should I mention this again? Intel is in Big Trouble? This is an opportunity for AMD once again to plough into the market place and gain lots more market share as they deserve.
Reward those that step up with real tech innovations and organic improvements.

And to all the So Called Intel Fanboys, AMD went through this long phase with its Bulldozer Design, all while building ZEN in the backend quietly. Competition is a good thing and its great to see a much smaller AMD company pounding in the flesh of a much larger Intel company, that hasn't played very nice for 25+ years now.

As far as gaming builds go ...

Budget build: i5 10400F ($150 @ Amazon) w/3200Mhz RAM + B560 board
Mid range build: i7 10700F ($269 @ Amazon) w/3200Mhz RAM + B560 board
High end build: Ryzen 7 5800X ($450 @ Amazon) w/3600Mhz RAM + 570 board

and officially out of the running ...

https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Ryzen-3600-12-Thread-Processor/dp/B07STGGQ18
AMD Ryzen 5 3600 $226.99

 

[oxrufiioxo]

As far as gaming builds go ...

Budget build: i5 10400F ($150 @ Amazon) w/3200Mhz RAM + B560 board
Mid range build: i7 10700F ($269 @ Amazon) w/3200Mhz RAM + B560 board
High end build: Ryzen 7 5800X ($450 @ Amazon) w/3600Mhz RAM + 570 board

and officially out of the running ...

https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Ryzen-3600-12-Thread-Processor/dp/B07STGGQ18
AMD Ryzen 5 3600 $226.99

Neither of the intel cpus are even in the top 20 on amazon so the majority of buyers disagree

Amazon Best Sellers: Best Computer CPU Processors

Discover the best Computer CPU Processors in Best Sellers. Find the top 100 most popular items in Amazon Computers & Accessories Best Sellers.

www.amazon.com

On newegg 18th is a little better I guess

Best Selling Processors - Desktops | Newegg.com

Find the best-selling Processors - Desktops on Newegg.com. Browse through the top 100 items on our website.

www.newegg.com

 

[Why_Me]

Neither if the intel cpus are even in the top 20 on amazon so the majority of buyers disagree

Amazon Best Sellers: Best Computer CPU Processors

Discover the best Computer CPU Processors in Best Sellers. Find the top 100 most popular items in Amazon Computers & Accessories Best Sellers.

www.amazon.com

On newegg 18th is a little better I guess

Best Selling Processors - Desktops | Newegg.com

Find the best-selling Processors - Desktops on Newegg.com. Browse through the top 100 items on our website.

www.newegg.com

So what would be your choice(s) for budget build, mid range build and high end build RE gaming builds?

 

[oxrufiioxo]

So what would be your choice(s) for budget build, mid range build and high end build RE gaming builds?

The best CPU you can afford is what's best.... Without sacrificing your gpu's budget. I buy cpu just for fun to test them out so I'm not the best person to ask lol.. Although I have plenty of experience with 10th gen intel and Ryzen 3000/5000 I personally wouldn't use anything less than my 5800X for myself and plan on swapping it for a 5950X

one person might go with the R5 3600 at $199 over a 10400F $150 for the superior upgrade path.... Another might need to budget that 50 for an SSD/better PSU etc

Personally the best CPU right now to buy is the 10600k once tweaked it offers 10900k gaming performance in most games and can offer much better productivity performance than the 10400 anyone that needs anything better than that can easily figure out what cpu is best for them. Translates to up to 20% better gaming performance and up to 30% better productivity performance vs the 10400 once tweaked.

Although being real the best value for a gaming system right now is either prebuilt or consoles anyone looking to game in 2021 should ignore the diy market unless you already have a gpu. At a min people should be waiting for lower tier rocket lake reviews for any final judgment although after seeing the 11700k review I'm not overly optimistic a 4-4.4ghz all core rocket lake chip is going to be worth it over a 5ghz 10600k which isn't that hard to cool for gaming.

 

[Why_Me]

The best CPU you can afford is what's best.... Without sacrificing your gpu's budget. I buy cpu just for fun to test them out so I'm not the best person to ask lol.. Although I have plenty of experience with 10th gen intel and Ryzen 3000/5000 I personally wouldn't use anything less than my 5800X for myself and plan on swapping it for a 5950X

one person might go with the R5 3600 at $199 over a 10400F $150 for the superior upgrade path.... Another might need to budget that 50 for an SSD/better PSU etc

Personally the best CPU right now to buy is the 10600k once tweaked it offers 10900k gaming performance in most games and can offer much better productivity performance than the 10400 anyone that needs anything better than that can easily figure out what cpu is best for them. Translates to up to 20% better gaming performance and up to 30% better productivity performance vs the 10400 once tweaked.

Although being real the best value for a gaming system right now is either prebuilt or consoles anyone looking to game in 2021 should ignore the diy market unless you already have a gpu. At a min people should be waiting for lower tier rocket lake reviews for any final judgment although after seeing the 11700k review I'm not overly optimistic a 4-4.4ghz all core rocket lake chip is going to be worth it over a 5ghz 10600k which isn't that hard to cool for gaming.

It's been almost a month since I've seen the 3600 go for as low as $200. It's sitting at $219 on Newegg atm.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

It's been almost a month since I've seen the 3600 go for as low as $200. It's sitting at $219 on Newegg atm.

Yes, but me and many others can stills get them at our local microcenters for 199..... people should be looking at the 10600k anyway.

 

[mouacyk]

Yes, but me and many others can stills get them at our local microcenters for 199..... people should be looking at the 10600k anyway.

PCI-E 3.0 and dead platform?

 

[Why_Me]

PCI-E 3.0 and dead platform?

DDR5 is right around the corner which means new boards, cpu's and RAM. With that said it's going to be a few years imo before the prices of DDR5 are reasonable. Seeing how a lot of gamers rebuild every 4 - 5 years on average if I had to guess, no reason not to go with comet lake or rocket lake for the time being if someone is needing a new build.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

PCI-E 3.0 and dead platform?

Gen 3 is fine for both storage and gpu at the mid to low end for at least another generation of gpu....... Anyone struggling to fit a 200-300 CPU in their budget doesn't really care about 500+ gpus and 200+ SSD. It's not like anyone building a system is going to be able to get a decent gpu for another year anyway and if you don't currently have one the Ryzen chips and F Class intel chips are just paperweights.

 

[INSTG8R]

PCI-E 3.0 and dead platform?

There’s still almost no scenario where it’s fully saturated...but carry on...

 

[Gmr_Chick]

The best CPU you can afford is what's best.... Without sacrificing your gpu's budget. I buy cpu just for fun to test them out so I'm not the best person to ask lol.. Although I have plenty of experience with 10th gen intel and Ryzen 3000/5000 I personally wouldn't use anything less than my 5800X for myself and plan on swapping it for a 5950X

one person might go with the R5 3600 at $199 over a 10400F $150 for the superior upgrade path.... Another might need to budget that 50 for an SSD/better PSU etc

Me to a T lol

Also, @Why_Me, I got my R5 3600 from Newegg for $200. They frequently offer $5 off promo codes for them.

 

[Tom Sunday]

You can also get a 11700k for $400...Another 8/16 core unlocked chip...Won't miss anything, but a couple more GHz boost...

Yes you are correct and it will be a better buy. Let's see what Intel has to say in their next earnings call onThursday, April 22, 2021 in front of their institutional investors. With the Alder Lake product just ahead many see little or no headwinds for Intel. Maybe I will put my 2020 AMD stock 'windfall' into Intel this time and wait for their fourth quarter? Amazing how the world turns. But we all know that Wall Street has no memory of its former darlings and cash is king.