NVIDIA RTX 3080 Ti, 3060 LHR Tested in Cryptomining Workloads

[Raevenlord]

Expreview have tested one of the latest RTX 3060 graphics cards of the LHR (Lite Hash Rate) nature, so as to discern exactly how cryptomining limited these LHR cards are in practice - and whether or not there are performance differences for non-mining related workloads such as gaming. The results are satisfying: the new RTX 3060 Lite Hash Rate puts out around 21 MH/s at 119 W - and it does so from the beginning of the workload, which didn't happen prior, when NVIDIA's solution was a poorly implemented driver check instead of a new device ID (it started at 40 MH/s and then decreased until it hit the LHR ceiling). The RTX 3060 also didn't show any performance difference compared to previous, non-LHR cards in gaming benchmarks, which might put some prospective buyers at ease.

Also leaked was the said RTX 3080 Ti mining score. Since this card is only coming out now, a way to differentiate it from existing stock is unneeded. But even if the RTX 3080 Ti doesn't carry the LHR suffix as does the RTX 3060 and eventually the 3070 and 3080 upon their re-release to the wild, it does pack in the same mining performance limiter. And the card was tested to deliver some 58 MH/s at a 199 W board power. One should be cautious about expecting swift prices back on the market, as miners shift their focus towards the RTX cards already in the second-hand market or the new CMP cards; one can only be hopeful that the actual gaming market is already well-furnished with cards enough that scalpers aren't able to contend with the (ideal?) overflow of stock on LHR cards.



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[Chomiq]

And the car was tested to deliver some 58 MH/s at a 199 W board power.

What car?

 

[Legacy-ZA]

Looks promising, but I still say it should have been limited 100%, not just 50%

 

[Raevenlord]

What car?

Neddle in a haystack, you wouldn't find the car.

 

[ZoneDymo]

Looks promising, but I still say it should have been limited 100%, not just 50%

screw that, limit it 1000%, let it actually de-mine !

 

[bug]

What car?

Any car. They all have chips now

 

[TheDeeGee]

 

[bug]

Assuming availability (yeah, I know) what's the MSRP on these?

 

[Vya Domus]

58 MH/s at a 199 W is till enough for profitability. Just so but it works.

 

[Altair]

What do you think about this guys?
https://www.reddit.com/r/3080ti/comments/nmu38p

 

[ozzyozzy]

I am just hoping this is not for new 3060LHR gpus...

 

[bug]

58 MH/s at a 199 W is till enough for profitability. Just so but it works.

Well, the point is not to make these completely unattractive to miners. Just less attractive than CMP cards.
As long as CMP is more profitable, that's what miners will buy. If there's enough of them be be had.

 

[nguyen]

58 MH/s at a 199 W is till enough for profitability. Just so but it works.

60MH/s just get you 4usd/day now, meanwhile 3070 can get 60MH/s at just ~100W. These LHR version will not be attractive to miners because old Ampere, RX6000, RX5000 and Turing are better mining GPUs.

 

[Ubersonic]

60MH/s just get you 4usd/day now, meanwhile 3070 can get 60MH/s at just ~100W. These LHR version will not be attractive to miners because old Ampere, RX6000, RX5000 and Turing are better mining GPUs.

This is of course assuming that the 3080ti will have the same unlimited mining performance as a 3080, because if it's higher that 4.7 USD a day becomes 5-6 USD a day.

 

[Deleted member 185088]

I assume this was done without Overclocking, probably it will be as good as the 3070/3060ti if underclocked. This card could be very attractive for Gamers, if it's priced similarly to the 3070 (around 1500$) it could be winner, way faster than the 3070 while having a similar hashrate for mining aside.

 

[mharbinger]

Even if 3080 Ti has the same hash rate as a 3070 or 3060 Ti, remember that the street price miners will pay for those is $1,300+. So a 3080 Ti at $999 or whatever is still attractive to miners.

Same goes for the 3060 LHR. 21 MH/s is comparable to a GTX 1660, which sells for $500+.

 

[ymbaja]

58 MH/s at a 199 W is till enough for profitability. Just so but it works.

If I’m not mistaken that’s roughly the same hash rate as a 6800xt? I don’t think it’s a coincidence

 

[TheinsanegamerN]

60MH/s just get you 4usd/day now, meanwhile 3070 can get 60MH/s at just ~100W. These LHR version will not be attractive to miners because old Ampere, RX6000, RX5000 and Turing are better mining GPUs.

Miners will still buy up anything that can mine. The value of the coins will rise again, it's a cycel that has repeated 3-4 times now. That 4usd/day could easily become 8-10 if coin prices rebound.

 

[saki630]

"One should be cautious about expecting swift prices back on the market, as miners shift their focus towards the RTX cards already in the second-hand market or the new CMP cards; one can only be hopeful that the actual gaming market is already well-furnished with cards enough that scalpers aren't able to contend with the (ideal?) overflow of stock on LHR cards."

Translated: "These paper launched cards will be out of stock, meaning prices will not recover towards MSRP any time this year. The Miners have been buying and the scalpers have been reselling for two years straight and own the 2nd hand market. We know this paper launch is a marketing ploy to prop up nVidia stock and push AMD publicity down while attracting miners to future Nvidia Asic boards. We will not speculate on the availability at launch for these 'gamer' LHR cards."

I had a seizure reading this post full of hot air

 

[renz496]

"One should be cautious about expecting swift prices back on the market, as miners shift their focus towards the RTX cards already in the second-hand market or the new CMP cards; one can only be hopeful that the actual gaming market is already well-furnished with cards enough that scalpers aren't able to contend with the (ideal?) overflow of stock on LHR cards."

Translated: "These paper launched cards will be out of stock, meaning prices will not recover towards MSRP any time this year. The Miners have been buying and the scalpers have been reselling for two years straight and own the 2nd hand market. We know this paper launch is a marketing ploy to prop up nVidia stock and push AMD publicity down while attracting miners to future Nvidia Asic boards. We will not speculate on the availability at launch for these 'gamer' LHR cards."

I had a seizure reading this post full of hot air

this will not be a paper launch.

 

[MentalAcetylide]

"One should be cautious about expecting swift prices back on the market, as miners shift their focus towards the RTX cards already in the second-hand market or the new CMP cards; one can only be hopeful that the actual gaming market is already well-furnished with cards enough that scalpers aren't able to contend with the (ideal?) overflow of stock on LHR cards."

Translated: "These paper launched cards will be out of stock, meaning prices will not recover towards MSRP any time this year. The Miners have been buying and the scalpers have been reselling for two years straight and own the 2nd hand market. We know this paper launch is a marketing ploy to prop up nVidia stock and push AMD publicity down while attracting miners to future Nvidia Asic boards. We will not speculate on the availability at launch for these 'gamer' LHR cards."

I had a seizure reading this post full of hot air

I suspect that there will be a small window of opportunity for gamers to buy them if there's a way for them to be modified in such a way as to make them just as profitable as the other cards. Once a modification(bios, drivers, etc.) is found, they'll be buying up the cards again.

 

[Ja.KooLit]

well im sure the 3080ti hashrate is not yet bios modded.. give it few days.... or before launch and the hashrate will be unlocked

 

[MentalAcetylide]

well im sure the 3080ti hashrate is not yet bios modded.. give it few days.... or before launch and the hashrate will be unlocked

Which raises the question as to why they would even bother with hashrate limiters in such a half-assed way. For something like this to actually stick without castrating the card, you would need some kind of AI implemented into the hardware itself to both detect & react accordingly to mining use.

Being that NVidia does not want to become tangled up in the cryptocurrency market by ramping up production, it becomes a supply chain problem near the end that can only be addressed by NVidia & its partners(i.e. EVGA, ASUS, etc.) eliminating the use of resellers & only allowing customers to purchase a very limited number of the cards directly. There's just no other feasible way to do it.

 

[Caring1]

Neddle in a haystack, you wouldn't find the car.

Found it.

 

[Zvijer]

So, the conclusion is.. they can't nerf the card, because cripto-hype is same As stack..
Only thing they can do, is BAM the criptoo..