Windows 11 General Discussion

[Drone]

Here are the top features and changes that Microsoft is bringing to Windows 11 - Neowin

 

[lexluthermiester]

Here are the top features and changes that Microsoft is bringing to Windows 11 - Neowin

That"s a nice summary review. Thanks for sharing!

 

[ThrashZone]

Yeah... you get slower boots with UEFI disabled. Unless of course, you ALREADY disabled it. I wonder why you havent noticed a change?
Also, i have no issues going into the BIOS with UEFI and fast boot on, never have.

Hi,
Yeah well you glazed over the fact manufactures are selling/ sending out hdd's and ssd's default format mbr so you and plastisc tell them all about the benefits of gpt

 

[Mr Bill]

Hi,
Yeah well you glazed over the fact manufactures are selling/ sending out hdd's and ssd's default format mbr so you and plastisc tell them all about the benefits of gpt

Do you have any idea of the percentages of PC's still around that only offer MBR booting? Just asking because I have no idea, but if there's still a lot in play, maybe this is why they're sending them out defaulted in mbr. With mbr on the newer boards that offer both, you usually have the option to boot in gpt or mbr in a lot of bios', you can't boot gpt in mrb only "of course I know you know that" My question is, are there boards made today, the only offer gpt booting? My latest build was built in 2015, it offers both options.

 

[windwhirl]

Hi,
Yeah well you glazed over the fact manufactures are selling/ sending out hdd's and ssd's default format mbr so you and plastisc tell them all about the benefits of gpt

That's strange. Drives shouldn't be formatted nor partitioned at all prior to first use by the user

Nvm, IIRC my latest drive, a Seagate IronWolf, came pre-partitioned and pre-formatted

My question is, are there boards made today, the only offer gpt booting? My latest build was built in 2015.

My Asus Prime X570-P board from 2019 or so supports both BIOS-style boot and UEFI, the latter in both CSM and full UEFI modes.

 

[Mr Bill]

That's strange. Drives shouldn't be formatted nor partitioned at all prior to first use by the user.

I agree, you never know if someone stuck something that follows you around in the mix.

 

[ThrashZone]

Do you have any idea of the percentages of PC's still around that only offer MBR booting? Just asking because I have no idea, but if there's still a lot in play, maybe this is why they're sending them out defaulted in mbr. With mbr on the newer boards that offer both, you usually have the option to boot in gpt or mbr in a lot of bios', you can't boot gpt in mrb only "of course I know you know that" My question is, are there boards made today, the only offer gpt booting? My latest build was built in 2015, it offers both options.

Hi,
I've only used asus boards so the last three x99/ x299 and even z490 had legacy/ csm enabled and also secure boot too so there's one for the record books lol
Just saying if the ssd's were gpt already I would of noticed.

That's strange. Drives shouldn't be formatted nor partitioned at all prior to first use by the user

Nvm, IIRC my latest drive, a Seagate IronWolf, came pre-partitioned and pre-formatted

Example flash drives are already fat32 so this is formatting from the manufacture so samsung/ ..... could do the same but don't.

 

[Mr Bill]

I remember one time in 10, I converted mbr to gpt, I don't know if it was a good idea, but I don't remember having any problems with it, other than you can't go back.

 

[Mussels]

legacy mode/CSM are not the same thing as UEFI
they arent even boot compatible, OS installers have to be made differently...

i get why some people want to stick with the old, universal method (especially dual booters) but if all you do is use modern OS... why? It's like sticking with FAT32

 

[ThrashZone]

I remember one time in 10, I converted mbr to gpt, I don't know if it was a good idea, but I don't remember having any problems with it, other than you can't go back.

Hi,
There is mbr2gpt so no big deal but I personally don't buy all the hype of gpt
I sure don't like some of uefi features either

I do all oc'ing in bios not in the os so uefi opening doors that makes it easier for stuff to corrupt bios is not a feature I care to use.
All features even a simple one like virtualization feature always has security holes so it's best to limit features that you never intend on using.

 

[Deleted member 24505]

Asus board, Fast boot, UEFI, GPT, Secure boot, zero issues at all on win 11

 

[Mr Bill]

Asus board, Fast boot, UEFI, GPT, Secure boot, zero issues at all on win 11

It's been this way also on one of my early builds "ASRock 2015".

 

[theFOoL]

LINK

On my SD-Card Adapter updating to W11

Linus thing with that SD-Card 10-Card controller "That one Video...." is BS. Should never have multi-cards and having a chip control 10!

 

[Rock N Roll Rebel]

I know what is causing the power bug in settings now I even tested it in a virtual machine the virtual machine worked fine intell I installed revo uninstaller in it now it does the same thing. does any one want to install revo uninstaller to see if it's just not me?

 

[Mr Bill]

I know what is causing the power bug in settings now I even tested it in a virtual machine the virtual machine worked fine intell I installed revo uninstaller in it now it does the same thing. does any one want to install revo uninstaller to see if it's just not me?

I have revo installed and have used it, do you know which option your using in revo that might be causing the issue? Is it Windows Cleaner, Junk Files, something in Windows Tools?

 

[theFOoL]

Seems to be a App removal as I use the Portable CCleaner version which is free LINK and that bug only happened once for me. Seemed to be a UI Glitch

 

[Mr Bill]

Seems to be a App removal as I use the Portable CCleaner version which is free LINK and that bug only happened once for me. Seemed to be a UI Glitch

The version I have is pretty old, it's 3.0.8 I probably need to update/renew but this version seems to still work great. You use "Portable CCleaner version" of revo? you lost me there, I also have the paid version of CCleaner, and pretty much stay up with all the updates.

 

[theFOoL]

I don't use any other then CCleaner for App removal or junk cleaning. Never used Revo nor will I. CCleaner is ToP of the list. No need to pro unless you want Auto-Do it

 

[Mr Bill]

I don't use any other then CCleaner for App removal or junk cleaning. Never used Revo nor will I. CCleaner is ToP of the list. No need to pro unless you want Auto-Do it

I understand, I guess we were all made different, so we could enjoy different things in life.

 

[Easy Rhino]

Hrm, it appears most of the reskinning of windows 11 is to account for increased ad space.

 

[theFOoL]

Eh All Ads these days. Youtube with it Pay $$ Ad Free now Windows 11 throwin Ads down are throat wanting to use Edge instead of Chrome when Old Peeps try to find chrome when later they have a bunch crap and got a spyware browser hence - G'Pa

 

[Post Nut Clairvoyance]

I've just tested 11's UI, and system in general. Installed in the VM so no technical observations made.
/VMware 16, fresh 10->11 install, net adapter removed during 10 install and available once in desktop. education edition 20h1(10)->20h2(11), 32gb allocated.

1. UI overhaul. Parts of the system most often used, start and explorer, is both changed. Suggest just youtube this. taskbar can be made to look like 10, volume and network is combined as said above. clock/time area is merged with notification. notification center control portion seems to be gone so no more snip tool from notif area?
2. Settings overhaul. A lot more settings are available in settings app. Control panel is roughly, if not completely same as windows 10. Worth noting advance options available from control panel's system about page (which is accessible from 10 by clicking my pc in explorer and right click for properties) is now available in settings app version. Good!
3. Searching seems a LOT faster and relevant. this is inside VM too, albeit my CPU is ok, not old PC. When I search for "term" (looking for windows terminal app) first suggestion was CMD, with win term app one down. seems to suggest applications first over apps now. feels massively less shit than 10 search.
4. Uninstallable apps is the same as 10. media codecs and extensions are not present, microsoft may have integrated those and removed them from app list which make sense as most of them cannot be uninstalled in the settings app anyways.
5. aero glass no longer works. I think os looks less hideous and out of date anyways with default 11 theme. CAIRO SHELL WORKS. huge plus for me. using Cairo shell also returns volume and network icons to separate and as it was in 10, if this is cleaned up in consumer release may break Cairo shell.
6. windows terminal and microsoft power automate is now available by default, can be uninstalled.
7. widgets available, right now looks bloated and same as chrome, edge and firefox getting mainstream media revenue. if API gets used by a lot of programs, e.g. chat, media control etc, and if you can remove default bloat, I can see it getting used.
8. right click on desktop seems slower. at some point it straight up didn't do anything. not working right click may be a bug in VMware 16, as i encountered similar issue before, though it was not with windows.

in general, I think this is fine update. makes the OS less hideous, improving setting app. even though more import objectives are not addressed, these changes I think does not make the system worse.
If I care that much about the ultra-pervasive telemetry, keyloggers and general shitness of modern windows I would not use it at all. But as I do need to use it I will just modify it to be as painless as possible (decrapify script) from this video:

,while not using any office product (onlyoffice + joplin).

Currently using Cairo shell on 8.1 embedded industry pro, considering piloting this bare metal on an old 80gb HDD (also a good test for general responsiveness, as windows 8.1 does way less IO) on 4770h macbook.

 

[FireFox]

Is anyone using Afterburner?
I am having issues with Afterburner and Win11, I've created a profile then saved it and applied whilst the PC is on it works but if i restart or turn off and on the PC it won't apply the profile, i have to open Afterburner and apply it manually.
Any idea?

 

[Mr Bill]

Is anyone using Afterburner?
I am having issues with Afterburner and Win11, I've created a profile then saved it and applied whilst the PC is on it works but if i restart or turn off and on the PC it won't apply the profile, i have to open Afterburner and apply it manually.
Any idea?

I've been backing up 11 everyday with Acronis, because I expect it could take a serious dump at anytime, but to my surprise, it's been great, with no issues at all for me.

 

[FireFox]

I've been backing up 11 everyday with Acronis, because I expect it could take a serious dump at anytime, but to my surprise, it's been great, with no issues at all for me.

It's not a big deal if something goes wrong with it, i have installed it just to test it and see how it behaves when Gaming, even after Microsoft releases the official version i will still use it for Gaming, W10 will be my main OS till end of support.