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any news about installing the ISO now and just leave the insider program at october 5 and use the OS as a full release version without a reinstall?
 
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It states Oct. 31th but I'll let you know or if I read up otherwise

I mean when i Enter Winver state that my copy ends so who knows

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Please note, that is the insider dev build. The beta builds(22000.xxx), which are what the final release will be based on, have a different expiration time-frame.
I know I'm just curious of the changes thus far. The only thing I really see is the Boot Image
 
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today there is an update to the dev channel v22458 but my VMware won't update it says the hardware doesn't qualify
 
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My WiFi is working hard lol though I can assume like last time it'll stop @7% hence need to use Win11pass. Yep I was correct lol. Once you click "Fix" it'll continue to DL

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A few fixes here and there, no features or other changes.

Changelog under the spoiler for those that don't want to leave the forum
  • [REMINDER] Build numbers are higher in the Dev Channel than the Windows 11 preview builds in the Beta Channel because we’ve moved the Dev Channel back to receiving builds from our active development branch (RS_PRERELEASE). This means the builds released to the Dev Channel no longer match the Windows 11 experience that will be released to customers on October 5th.
  • The desktop watermark you see at the lower right corner of your desktop is normal for these pre-release builds.
  • As mentioned previously, it will be a little while before major new features show up. However, this build includes a good set of improvements and bug fixes.
  • There is an issue impacting the Taskbar where icons appear misaligned and/or cut off – see the known issues below.
  • Try out the new Tips app for Windows 11 with a new design and over with 114 new tips!

Changes and Improvements

  • We added a link to the sign-in options under the power menu on Start. (Note: this change first appeared in Build 22454 last week but we’re documenting it here this week as it was missed.)
A link to sign-in options has been added to the power menu on Start.

Fixes


[Start]
  • Fixed an underlying issue that was impacting Start reliability.

[Search]
  • Folders with # in folder name can now be added to indexing.

[Settings]
  • Addressed an issue that was causing Settings to crash sometimes when trying to open the Display page.
  • Clicking “More about refresh rate” in Advanced Display Settings now opens the support page it’s supposed to.
  • Fixed an issue where the Location page in Settings wasn’t showing warning text explaining why the location services setting was greyed out if it was greyed out.
  • Changes made to preferences under Manage App Execution Alias in Settings should now be preserved.
  • Fixed a couple typos in the output of dll (Issue #206).

[Windowing]
  • Mitigated an issue that could make certain games unexpectedly crash when using ALT + Enter (i.e., switch between full screen and windowed) during with Auto HDR enabled.

[Other]
  • Addressed an issue that was causing text truncation in the Encrypting File System window in certain cases.
  • Fixed a rare scenario that could result in an uninstalled in-box app unexpectedly reappearing after reboot.
  • Appx commandlets should now work with PowerShell 7.0+ printui.dll (Issue #13138).

NOTE: Some fixes noted here in Insider Preview builds from the active development branch may make their way into the servicing updates for the released version of Windows 11 after general availability on October 5th.


Known issues


[General]
  • We’re working on a fix for an issue that is causing some Surface Pro X’s to bug check with a WHEA_UNCORRECTABLE_ERROR.
  • We’re working on a fix for an issue that is causing some devices to bug check with DRIVER_PNP_WATCHDOG error when attempting to update to a recent build.

[Start]
  • In some cases, you might be unable to enter text when using Search from Start or the Taskbar. If you experience the issue, press WIN + R on the keyboard to launch the Run dialog box, then close it.
  • System is missing when right-clicking on the Start button (WIN + X).

[Taskbar]
  • IMPORTANT: Icons on the Taskbar are shifted to the side when in the default center alignment, resulting in them getting cut off by the “show hidden icons” button when too many apps are open.
  • The Taskbar will sometimes flicker when switching input methods.

[Search]
  • After clicking the Search icon on the Taskbar, the Search panel may not open. If this occurs, restart the “Windows Explorer” process, and open the search panel again.
  • Search panel might appear as black and not display any content below the search box.

[File Explorer]
  • If you right click files in OneDrive locations in File Explorer, the context menu will unexpectedly dismiss when you hover over entries that open sub-menus, such as “Open with.”

[Widgets]
  • The widgets board may appear empty. To work around the issue, you can sign out and then sign back in again.
  • Widgets may be displayed in the wrong size on external monitors. If you encounter this, you can launch the widgets via touch or WIN + W shortcut on your actual PC display first and then launch on your secondary monitors.

[Windows Sandbox]
  • We’re investigating an issue in which Windows Sandbox may not launch for some Insiders after upgrading to this build.

[Microsoft Store]
  • We continue to work to improve search relevance in the Store.

[Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL) & Hyper-V]
  • We’re investigating reports of both WSL2 and Hyper-V not working on this build on ARM64 PCs such as the Surface Pro X.
 
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A few fixes here and there, no features or other changes.

Changelog under the spoiler for those that don't want to leave the forum
  • [REMINDER] Build numbers are higher in the Dev Channel than the Windows 11 preview builds in the Beta Channel because we’ve moved the Dev Channel back to receiving builds from our active development branch (RS_PRERELEASE). This means the builds released to the Dev Channel no longer match the Windows 11 experience that will be released to customers on October 5th.
  • The desktop watermark you see at the lower right corner of your desktop is normal for these pre-release builds.
  • As mentioned previously, it will be a little while before major new features show up. However, this build includes a good set of improvements and bug fixes.
  • There is an issue impacting the Taskbar where icons appear misaligned and/or cut off – see the known issues below.
  • Try out the new Tips app for Windows 11 with a new design and over with 114 new tips!

Changes and Improvements

  • We added a link to the sign-in options under the power menu on Start. (Note: this change first appeared in Build 22454 last week but we’re documenting it here this week as it was missed.)
A link to sign-in options has been added to the power menu on Start.

Fixes


[Start]
  • Fixed an underlying issue that was impacting Start reliability.

[Search]
  • Folders with # in folder name can now be added to indexing.

[Settings]
  • Addressed an issue that was causing Settings to crash sometimes when trying to open the Display page.
  • Clicking “More about refresh rate” in Advanced Display Settings now opens the support page it’s supposed to.
  • Fixed an issue where the Location page in Settings wasn’t showing warning text explaining why the location services setting was greyed out if it was greyed out.
  • Changes made to preferences under Manage App Execution Alias in Settings should now be preserved.
  • Fixed a couple typos in the output of dll (Issue #206).

[Windowing]
  • Mitigated an issue that could make certain games unexpectedly crash when using ALT + Enter (i.e., switch between full screen and windowed) during with Auto HDR enabled.

[Other]
  • Addressed an issue that was causing text truncation in the Encrypting File System window in certain cases.
  • Fixed a rare scenario that could result in an uninstalled in-box app unexpectedly reappearing after reboot.
  • Appx commandlets should now work with PowerShell 7.0+ printui.dll (Issue #13138).

NOTE: Some fixes noted here in Insider Preview builds from the active development branch may make their way into the servicing updates for the released version of Windows 11 after general availability on October 5th.


Known issues


[General]
  • We’re working on a fix for an issue that is causing some Surface Pro X’s to bug check with a WHEA_UNCORRECTABLE_ERROR.
  • We’re working on a fix for an issue that is causing some devices to bug check with DRIVER_PNP_WATCHDOG error when attempting to update to a recent build.

[Start]
  • In some cases, you might be unable to enter text when using Search from Start or the Taskbar. If you experience the issue, press WIN + R on the keyboard to launch the Run dialog box, then close it.
  • System is missing when right-clicking on the Start button (WIN + X).

[Taskbar]
  • IMPORTANT: Icons on the Taskbar are shifted to the side when in the default center alignment, resulting in them getting cut off by the “show hidden icons” button when too many apps are open.
  • The Taskbar will sometimes flicker when switching input methods.

[Search]
  • After clicking the Search icon on the Taskbar, the Search panel may not open. If this occurs, restart the “Windows Explorer” process, and open the search panel again.
  • Search panel might appear as black and not display any content below the search box.

[File Explorer]
  • If you right click files in OneDrive locations in File Explorer, the context menu will unexpectedly dismiss when you hover over entries that open sub-menus, such as “Open with.”

[Widgets]
  • The widgets board may appear empty. To work around the issue, you can sign out and then sign back in again.
  • Widgets may be displayed in the wrong size on external monitors. If you encounter this, you can launch the widgets via touch or WIN + W shortcut on your actual PC display first and then launch on your secondary monitors.

[Windows Sandbox]
  • We’re investigating an issue in which Windows Sandbox may not launch for some Insiders after upgrading to this build.

[Microsoft Store]
  • We continue to work to improve search relevance in the Store.

[Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL) & Hyper-V]
  • We’re investigating reports of both WSL2 and Hyper-V not working on this build on ARM64 PCs such as the Surface Pro X.
These Insider builds are too glitchy/buggy for my liking. I think I'm going to stay with the beta builds until final.
 
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These Insider builds are too glitchy/buggy for my liking. I think I'm going to stay with the beta builds until final.
For me I'm not seeing bugs. May I ask what you are seeing? Could be your graphics card or other
 
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For me I'm not seeing bugs. May I ask what you are seeing? Could be your graphics card or other
It's the known issues. I've seen the "WHEA_UNCORRECTABLE_ERROR" twice, so it's not just limited to Surface Pro's, the taskbar glitch(easily solved by aligning the Start button to the left), the Start+R run dialog glitch out & fail to run in admin elevation and I've seen Windows Explorer crash & close for reasons not yet known. The beta revisions are not doing any of these things. In fact, I've not seen any problems at all since 22000.168. I'm thinking the beta builds are very close to retail.

As always, YMMV.
True.
 
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Well as I mentioned I'm just seeing what's going to come so that is why I have both Beta and Dev but LTSC as default. I'm happy where I'm at
 
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Well as I mentioned I'm just seeing what's going to come so that is why I have both Beta and Dev but LTSC as default. I'm happy where I'm at
I still have LTSB and LTSC on some drives, I still prefer LTSB "just a little" over LTSC, don't ask why, just seems more like Windows 7 2.0--But I do like 11, it's been running smooth since day one for me. :D
 
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I still have LTSB and LTSC on some drives, I still prefer LTSB "just a little" over LTSC, don't ask why, just seems more like Windows 7 2.0--But I do like 11, it's been running smooth since day one for me. :D
My LTSC with TRANSLUCENT "Though you can get from the M$ store but hence LTSC doesn't have"


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Well, 6 days ago i updated to 22000.184 and all seemed fine, that same week my router ( Speedport Smart 3 )started randomly rebooting, never happened before ( router is 5 months old ) i reset it
( didn't help ) checked if there was any damaged cable or if any of them were not plugged correctly but everything was ok, to make sure that the problem was the router i disconnected it and then connected my old router ( Speedport 921v ) and what a relief, everything was working again, so yesterday i called my provider and explained the problem and told them to send me a new Smart 3 router, arrived today, connected it and what a surprise, i was facing again the same exact issue that i had with my other Smart 3, 2 routers same model and same problem, and the old router was working without issues? pretty odd to me:kookoo:
infuriated and without to know what else to do i sat and started thinking, then W11 came into my mind, what if it is causing the router to reboot? that would be absurd but it was my last try, so i restarted the PC and booted into my other W11 that has installed build 22000.168, i couldn't believe it but the internet/router was working again:eek: tried all 3 routers one by one and were working, switched back to 22000.184 and all 3 failed.
again, to make sure that the problem was the build 22000.184 i rolled back to 22000.176 and same as 22000.168, 0 issues.

Sorry for my annoying long post.
 
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Well, 6 days ago i updated to 22000.184 and all seemed fine, that same week my router ( Speedport Smart 3 )started randomly rebooting, never happened before ( router is 5 months old ) i reset it
( didn't help ) checked if there was any damaged cable or if any of them were not plugged correctly but everything was ok, to make sure that the problem was the router i disconnected it and then connected my old router ( Speedport 921v ) and what a relief, everything was working again, so yesterday i called my provider and explained the problem and told them to send me a new Smart 3 router, arrived today, connected it and what a surprise, i was facing again the same exact issue that i had with my other Smart 3, 2 routers same model and same problem, and the old router was working without issues? pretty odd to me:kookoo:
infuriated and without to know what else to do i sat and started thinking, then W11 came into my mind, what if it is causing the router to reboot? that would be absurd but it was my last try, so i restarted the PC and booted into my other W11 that has installed build 22000.168, i couldn't believe it but the internet/router was working again:eek: tried all 3 routers one by one and were working, switched back to 22000.184 and all 3 failed.
again, to make sure that the problem was the build 22000.184 i rolled back to 22000.176 and same as 22000.168, 0 issues.

Sorry for my annoying long post.
Could be a driver issue of sorts with a Ethernet or USB Wi-Fi driver

I'm sorry to those who having issues with WiN11. I'm not bc on a 775 MB which inturn has no driver issue. Sorry guys
 
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