Intel Core i5-12600K

[wolf]

as a 5900X owner I am extremely pleased Intel took back the gaming crown, your move AMD! this is great news for all.

Also a very interesting and passionate thread, some great arguments to be made for either really. A 12600K DDR4 combo should certainly at least be priced and considered for any gaming build from today onward.

 

[Mistral]

Very happy for Intel. This should do them nicely untill the next Ryzen generation.

 

[arni-gx]

i5 12600k = a new hope....... the sith luke skywalker is still newbie on the dark side of the force.....

 

[The King]

So you own a 5600X and the 12600K is overall 6.6% faster @1080p and difference @1440p 4.9%. (PBO should reduced that )

CPU work loads is definitely were ADL shines. Gaming wise it's really not that impressive compared to a 1 year old CPU from AMD.
Definitely not for those who have boards capable for running AMD 5XXX series CPUS in terms of gaming performance and the cost of upgrading your mobo as well.

 

[Hyderz]

impressive performance for its price as well

 

[DanglingPointer]

For those that don't care about Window$ and have move to the Light Side of the OS Force...

That's 146 Tests!
All results here...
Review here...

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[MarsM4N]

I have, horrendous power consumption with tiny edge over competition. It's literally the same as overclocking FX 9590 and saying that it's faster than i7 2600K, while ignoring horrendous power consumption and heat output.

According to igorsLAB's Review the i7 consumes in gaming 1,2w less & the i5 3,9w more than a 5600x (while delivering more fps than a 5950x).

He hasn't tested workload power consumption yet, but judging by W1zzard's review, I guess the picture will there look different. To me it looks like the Intel's are, when not pushed, like in games, very efficent (esp. for 10nm). When pushed they power will spike up, but with the more horsepower the'll get the job faster done. So in the end it's still efficent. How efficent we will see in the comming reviews.

 

[The King]

According to igorsLAB's Review the i7 consumes in gaming 1,2w less & the i5 3,9w more than a 5600x (while delivering more fps than a 5950x).

He hasn't tested workload power consumption yet, but judging by W1zzard's review, I guess the picture will there look different. To me it looks like the Intel's are, when not pushed, like in games, very efficent (esp. for 10nm). When pushed they power will spike up, but with the more horsepower the'll get the job faster done. So in the end it's still efficent. How efficent we will see in the comming reviews.

Different reviewers are reporting different Power consumption seems ADL silicon quality is not the same for all reviewers.
I would be concerned of certain chip performing much better for some reviewers than others. Usually reviewers are given higher binned chips that retail consumers almost never see.

What many of you are missing is that the power draw figures right now are all over the place. At Guru3D this is the score they got with an all core 5.3GHz overclock and a 469W CPU Power draw figure

This is my score, that's higher but at 240W and only 5.1GHz. My CPU won't do 5.3GHz all core.

Intel Alder Lake early adopters thread | Tech Other

Oh, I'll also bet that 99% of people complaining about heat are never going to use the CPU in such a way - during gaming it's on par with AMD. That said, Blender uses AVX512 which everyone knows puts out a ton of heat/draws a lot of power. AMD doesn't support AVX512, hence the massive power...

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[Turmania]

Someone in another place described it perfectly,
"This is Intel's Zen1 moment."

 

[Why_Me]

Someone in another place described it perfectly,
"This is Intel's Zen1 moment."

Not a C2D moment for sure but still good.

 

[MarsM4N]

Different reviewers are reporting different Power consumption seems ADL silicon quality is not the same for all reviewers.
I would be concerned of certain chip performing much better for some reviewers than others. Usually reviewers are given higher binned chips that retail consumers almost never see.

Intel Alder Lake early adopters thread | Tech Other

Oh, I'll also bet that 99% of people complaining about heat are never going to use the CPU in such a way - during gaming it's on par with AMD. That said, Blender uses AVX512 which everyone knows puts out a ton of heat/draws a lot of power. AMD doesn't support AVX512, hence the massive power...

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igorsLAB didn't receive a "Golden Sample" from Intel, he didn't overclock & he did bench multiple games, not just one game like in your chart.

Here's the footnote of his review (last page):

"The test samples are retail CPUs and were not provided by Intel. A voluntary signing of the NDA for the CPUs was not accepted by Intel due to lack of relevance, so I am purely voluntarily adhering to the CPU embargo periods (keyword collegiality). Motherboard and memory come from the respective manufacturers and were only provided on the condition that the embargo periods for these products were adhered to."

Ohh, just noticed he uploaded his Review Part 2 where he tested the workload performance & workload power consumption. Have to check it out now.

 

[GURU7OF9]

But can you actually buy one right now, and is it at $300? unfortunately I think not on both counts !

but it def looks best value by far! power limit seems to do nothing for gaming .

if only you could find a way to crank it way harder for gaming ! have to be overclocking i guess?

 

[Why_Me]

But can you actually buy one right now, and is it at $300? unfortunately I think not on both counts !

but it def looks best value by far! power limit seems to do nothing for gaming .

if only you could find a way to crank it way harder for gaming ! have to be overclocking i guess?

$320 USD at Newegg

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[Hossein Almet]

Basically no reason to get a 5600x or 5800x when both are overpriced right out of the gate. Intel dominates every single price point and you don’t need to participate in their mandatory AGESA beta-testing program .

Right now in Australia the 5600X is A$100 cheaper, and the X570s are also significantly cheaper than the Z690s.

 

[The King]

Pricing in India 5600X Rs21999 (296USD)

https://www.amazon.in/AMD-Ryzen-5600X-Processor-100-100000065BOX/dp/B08166SLDF

EST retail price from online retailers - 12600K Rs31335 (421USD)

 

[lexluthermiester]

So you own a 5600X and the 12600K is overall 6.6% faster @1080p and difference @1440p 4.9%. (PBO should reduced that )

You need to review and think that over for a moment;

Intel Core i5-12600K Review - Winning Price/Performance

The Core i5-12600K is the price/performance king in the Intel Alder Lake lineup. With its competitive pricing of $300, it's a clear winner against AMD's Ryzen 5 5600X and faster than even the 5800X in many applications and games. This is the gaming CPU you want.

www.techpowerup.com

Not to mention that the 5600X is $10 more.

Let's stop with the disinformation, it's not winning any opinion awards.

 

[The King]

You need to review and think that over for a moment;

Intel Core i5-12600K Review - Winning Price/Performance

The Core i5-12600K is the price/performance king in the Intel Alder Lake lineup. With its competitive pricing of $300, it's a clear winner against AMD's Ryzen 5 5600X and faster than even the 5800X in many applications and games. This is the gaming CPU you want.

www.techpowerup.com

Not to mention that the 5600X is $10 more.

Let's stop with the disinformation, it's not willing any opinion awards.

Not in India and in South Africa. There are international users on this forum.

@W1zzard Should change the title so that you don't get confused, and realize the USA is not the only market in the world.

Winning Price/Performance in the USA​

 

[Pepamami]

I dunno, DDR5 costs ~2 times more than current DDR4, new 1700 motherboars also costly.
I think I gonna wait for AMD cache and prices updates for now.
12600K looks cheap only on paper right now.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Not in India and in South Africa. There are international users on this forum.

Ok, so the price is different where you live. It's still going to be close and that doesn't change your blatantly incorrect statement about performance.

 

[The red spirit]

According to igorsLAB's Review the i7 consumes in gaming 1,2w less & the i5 3,9w more than a 5600x (while delivering more fps than a 5950x).

He hasn't tested workload power consumption yet, but judging by W1zzard's review, I guess the picture will there look different. To me it looks like the Intel's are, when not pushed, like in games, very efficent (esp. for 10nm). When pushed they power will spike up, but with the more horsepower the'll get the job faster done. So in the end it's still efficent. How efficent we will see in the comming reviews.

First of all what Intel calls 10 nm is not really 10 nm, there's a lot of secrecy about actual nms and where they could be found, but same goes for AMD too with 7nm. It's impossible to know which process is actually smaller and better. That aside, I looked at LTT gaming benches and power consumption while gaming was a lot more sane. That's great, it used to be worse by a bit previously. So Intel improved while comparing to Intel, meanwhile AMD already had reasonably efficient stuff for years. And to add insult to injury, Intel's own i5 10400(F) and i5 11400(F) chips were exceptionally efficient, far more than Ryzens or Intels. So what actually happened there is that Intel merely matched competitor and that's like 20-30% reduction from previous gen. Despite that, chip runs obscenely hot and performance is only 10-20% higher than Ryzen, while also matching Ryzen's prices. Sorry mate, but I don't see how Alder Lake brings anything truly meaningful. The biggest thing are two types of cores, which may or may not be utilized somewhat better with Windows 11 later, but so far Alder Lake is not great. i5 is okay, but i9 is not. With i9, you can't just look at gaming and say that thermals and power usage are okay, with something like i9, you are expected to push it to the max sometimes or maybe even everyday and since it has serious flaws (power usage, heat output), I don't think that it could be recommended to anyone in good conscience. At that point, you may as well just get Comet Lake i9, overclock it and unlock power limit, performance and power usage will be the same.

 

[The King]

Ok, so the price is different where you life. It's still going to be close and that doesn't change your blatantly incorrect statement about performance.

The figures I quoted for 1080p gaming performance are from this very article. Please explain which part of my statement was incorrect.

So you own a 5600X and the 12600K is overall 6.6% faster @1080p and difference @1440p 4.9%.

 

[The red spirit]

You need to review and think that over for a moment;

Intel Core i5-12600K Review - Winning Price/Performance

The Core i5-12600K is the price/performance king in the Intel Alder Lake lineup. With its competitive pricing of $300, it's a clear winner against AMD's Ryzen 5 5600X and faster than even the 5800X in many applications and games. This is the gaming CPU you want.

www.techpowerup.com

Not to mention that the 5600X is $10 more.

Let's stop with the disinformation, it's not winning any opinion awards.

But 5600X was an awful chip in terms of price, when chips liek i5 11400F or i5 10400F or 10600K existed. Even AMD's own 3600 is much better value than 5600X. The only reason why 5600X didn't become joke is due to positive media coverage, mostly ignoring pricing of it and how it sits in market. You can't just create whatever, claim that it is value champ and then see it at the bottom of value, but it seems that AMD thinks that they can.

Isn't this wonderfull, now it's your turn AMD, consumers wins. . This is what I want to see, they outdoing each release...

AMD already won this battle

 

[Vayra86]

It's good. But the price of the components like DDR5 and motherboards are beyond what I'm willing to spend for a few FPS more.

This summarizes it perfectly. ADL looks decent, it is finally some real progress - an IPC boost more than a few percent after all these years bravo Intel. With DDR5.

In other words, you can totally forget about this gen and wait for its successor. For the market, its great, there will be price/perf parity and thus competition. CPU chips are also not in major shortages like everything else. But yeah, if you have anything half decent from 2018 or later... window shopping is all you should do.

The best thing about ADL is that its not good enough to really kick AMD off the throne. They just change seats for a little while, both squarely in the range of diminishing returns performance wise.

 

[Chrispy_]

I have, horrendous power consumption with tiny edge over competition. It's literally the same as overclocking FX 9590 and saying that it's faster than i7 2600K, while ignoring horrendous power consumption and heat output.

That's for 8 Performance cores and 8 Atoms against 16 Performance cores though. The 12900K is dumb because it's marketed as a 24-thread part trying to beat a 32-thread part and the only way it can do this is by pushing the clocks and power envelope well beyond what is reasonable. 350W for a CPU is obscene outside of LN2 overclocking IMO.

What's a more useful comparison is the 12600K with E-cores disabled vs the 5600X. Both use similar amounts of power and operate in their sweet-spot clock/voltage ranges. Intel simply have the IPC advantage with Alder Lake compared to Zen3 right now. Whether that's architecture or DDR5 is unknown at this stage and what I (and a lot of other people) am waiting for is a like-for-like battle using the same speed DDR4.

 

[Dyatlov A]

Is 12600K with a high end DDR4 maybe faster than with DDR5?