Windows 11 General Discussion

[P4-630]

Windows 11: Another Ryzen patch, one more time with problems.

The Windows 11 update KB5007215 is supposed to address the problems of the level 3 cache of AMD's Ryzen processors again, but does not completely fix them.

Windows 11: Ein weiterer Ryzen-Patch, ein weiteres Mal mit Problemen

Das Windows-11-Update KB5007215 soll die Probleme des Level-3-Caches von AMDs Ryzen-Prozessoren erneut angehen, behebt diese aber nicht vollends.

www.heise.de

 

[micropage7]

Windows 11: Another Ryzen patch, one more time with problems.

The Windows 11 update KB5007215 is supposed to address the problems of the level 3 cache of AMD's Ryzen processors again, but does not completely fix them.

Windows 11: Ein weiterer Ryzen-Patch, ein weiteres Mal mit Problemen

Das Windows-11-Update KB5007215 soll die Probleme des Level-3-Caches von AMDs Ryzen-Prozessoren erneut angehen, behebt diese aber nicht vollends.

www.heise.de

and like before, there's a patch to fix it but it will need another patch to make it work but to make it work perfectly it needs another patch, but another patch makes the system weird sometimes, so to fix it you need another patch

 

[P4-630]

and like before, there's a patch to fix it but it will need another patch to make it work but to make it work perfectly it needs another patch, but another patch makes the system weird sometimes, so to fix it you need another patch

It seems to be like that these days... A patch for a fix and a patch for the previous patch.....

 

[stinger608]

and like before, there's a patch to fix it but it will need another patch to make it work but to make it work perfectly it needs another patch, but another patch makes the system weird sometimes, so to fix it you need another patch

You nailed that right on the head.

 

[theFOoL]

Yeah just to post uh-ha I went ahead and deleted the WiNDeV SSD and WiN10 an just kept the WiNLTSC and WiN11

 

[Mussels]

Does anyone know if upgrade installs over the top of existing W11, fix the issues with changing ryzen CPUs?

 

[Splinterdog]

Is TPM really Treacherous Computing? Whose agenda is being followed?
I've always wandered if it was just a smoke screen and never believed for a minute that TPM is supposed to make us more secure.

The Sinister Truth About TPM? | Daves Computer Tips

Microsoft surprised (shocked?) a lot of people when announcing the requirements for Windows 11, not the least of which was the requirement for TPM (Trusted Platform Module). TPM is an obscure security…

davescomputertips.com

 

[lexluthermiester]

Does anyone know if upgrade installs over the top of existing W11, fix the issues with changing ryzen CPUs?

It should? Likely.

 

[theFOoL]

It should? Likely.

I mean is he meaning as in old.Windows folder which is like 30+GB

 

[Mussels]

I mean is he meaning as in old.Windows folder which is like 30+GB

No i mean to fix the bugs is a true clean install required, or can you double click setup.exe and install over the top, losing nothing but time

 

[theFOoL]

I'm sure there's a option *Before you continue to click which ever you want to stay

 

[Mussels]

I'm sure there's a option *Before you continue to click which ever you want to stay

okay i think you're missing context here

Theres a new bug, that if you change between ryzen CPU's after OS install, cripples the L3 cache performance again. (big issue for alder lake reviewers)
The only known fix from the source that found the bug was a clean OS install every time.

Alternative fix: upgrade-install without wipe

 

[theFOoL]

Oh... ok yeah yeah I heard. That's a awful/Stupid Bug....

If it were me... I'd have a back up which I clearly always do "Just for software"

 

[Mussels]

Yeah but you cant do a backup here, cause the backup is made with an already installed OS


You'd have to setup an automated installer that does a clean install every time, and manually install the relevant chipset drivers/let windows update do its thing, and then test

And i can see that being a total PITA for reviewers who want consistency

 

[Stefan Zwaneveld]

Maybe windows 11 22000.346 fixes things ?

 

[R-T-B]

Is TPM really Treacherous Computing? Whose agenda is being followed?
I've always wandered if it was just a smoke screen and never believed for a minute that TPM is supposed to make us more secure.

The Sinister Truth About TPM? | Daves Computer Tips

Microsoft surprised (shocked?) a lot of people when announcing the requirements for Windows 11, not the least of which was the requirement for TPM (Trusted Platform Module). TPM is an obscure security…

davescomputertips.com

I did say earlier this year that there is widespread skepticism of "hardware security" amongst those who actually know what they are talking about. This pretty much just drives that point home.

 

[lexluthermiester]

No i mean to fix the bugs is a true clean install required, or can you double click setup.exe and install over the top, losing nothing but time

I haven't tried that since the Windows 9x days.

 

[Shrek]

KB5007262 cab file (22000.346)
Windows10.0-KB5007262-x64_47fe39d4-full_psfx.cab | Ulož.to (uloz.to)

To make installation easy
CAB file - Add Install to Context Menu in Windows 10 | Tutorials (tenforums.com)


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[stinger608]

So, I have a B550 Asus motherboard, 3700X, 16 gigs 3200 ram, 980 pro 500 gig NVMe 4 drive. Loaded Windows 11 on this system about a week ago and it ran fine for several days. Now though, it will lag badly!

To the point that if I click anything I can about go have a sandwich and come back to it finally doing something. It's crazy!

So, I have dual 7970's in the system and I'm not sure if that is what is causing this terrible lag problem or not. I know they are older video cards, and wondering if that would cause such an issue?

However, it was running Windows 10 just fine with no lag and was lightning fast.

Any ideas?

 

[TxGrin]

So, I have a B550 Asus motherboard, 3700X, 16 gigs 3200 ram, 980 pro 500 gig NVMe 4 drive. Loaded Windows 11 on this system about a week ago and it ran fine for several days. Now though, it will lag badly!

To the point that if I click anything I can about go have a sandwich and come back to it finally doing something. It's crazy!

So, I have dual 7970's in the system and I'm not sure if that is what is causing this terrible lag problem or not. I know they are older video cards, and wondering if that would cause such an issue?

However, it was running Windows 10 just fine with no lag and was lightning fast.

Any ideas?

Do you have MSI afterburner installed? Mine was doing this as well then i uninstalled MSI afterburner and the lag went away. Others said disabling transparency also helped.

 

[stinger608]

Do you have MSI afterburner installed? Mine was doing this as well then i uninstalled MSI afterburner and the lag went away. Others said disabling transparency also helped.

No, I don't have Afterburner installed.

Hmm, will have to check on the transparency thing. Thanks for the heads up on that.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Personal update: I've now converted all of my main-use systems over to Windows 11, including the one I'm typing this on. Used a customized ISO that resulted in a very similar experience to an LTSB/LTSC ISO but with Defender removed. The result is Windows 11 running in a way that is secure and does not invade privacy. All is well and running smooth as expected!

Additionally, it seems NVidia has listened to reason and has included the Control Panel App with the DCH driver install. So well done NVidia!

So, I have a B550 Asus motherboard, 3700X, 16 gigs 3200 ram, 980 pro 500 gig NVMe 4 drive. Loaded Windows 11 on this system about a week ago and it ran fine for several days. Now though, it will lag badly!

To the point that if I click anything I can about go have a sandwich and come back to it finally doing something. It's crazy!

So, I have dual 7970's in the system and I'm not sure if that is what is causing this terrible lag problem or not. I know they are older video cards, and wondering if that would cause such an issue?

However, it was running Windows 10 just fine with no lag and was lightning fast.

Any ideas?

Check the task manager to see if anything is using tons of CPU time. Otherwise you might need to run a registry check with a trusted utility to repair any errors or remove dead entries that might be causing problems..

 

[Deleted member 24505]

No, I don't have Afterburner installed.

Hmm, will have to check on the transparency thing. Thanks for the heads up on that.

I have afterburner installed, set to start with windows, to load my OC profile. It has been like this for a couple of months now, with no apparent lag at all.

 

[Mussels]

I haven't tried that since the Windows 9x days.

It's a fantastic repair feature for windows 8/10/11 - as it installs a new OS, undoes errors, corruption, and dumb user changes - but leaves files, programs and user content alone.

 

[RJARRRPCGP]

Oh... ok yeah yeah I heard. That's a awful/Stupid Bug....

Reminds me of old skool versions of Windows, where I had to reformat and reinstall Windows! Including a crash, possibly even after uninstalling the 3rd party video driver before changing the video card.