TPU's Nostalgic Hardware Club

[Mr.Scott]

Driver optimizations affect the score greatly. Both runs use default 3DMark settings, but in the first one driver settings have been tweaked for maximum performance. The second one is with maximum image quality. The staggering difference in Dragothic is reflected in the total score.

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Good score.

Here is my 3850 full out on NF3-VSTA board.

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[QuietBob]

I've spent the last two days using the internet exclusively on my Windows XP machine (the one on the previous page). Browsing is practically trouble free and doesn't feel much different from any current system/browser. I took some benchmarks with Firefox 52.9.0 ESR, the last official browser for XP:



YouTube plays smoothly even in 4K:

I'm not subscribed to any VOD service, but I checked that Netflix is officially supported under XP
So yep, a 20 year old operating system can still be used for your daily browsing needs!

 

[dorsetknob]

As long as you have a decent firewall and up to date malware/Anti virus and your tech savvy about browsing there should be no problems.
its when the user is not tech savvy and don't Run Current up to date firewall and up to date malware/Anti virus that problems arise.
Most virus/malware now skip anything earlier than Vista/win 7 ( but not all so be warned users )

 

[stef]

Last thing I used on XP was Malwarebytes ... on-demand scanning, not real-time protection. It had smallest footprint. Not sure if it still works today, though.

 

[QuietBob]

Last thing I used on XP was Malwarebytes ... on-demand scanning, not real-time protection. It had smallest footprint. Not sure if it still works today, though.

I have Norton Security installed on it with a current subscription. The latest definitions downloaded just fine. Curiously, they officially retired XP support in February 2021

 

[lexluthermiester]

I have Norton Security installed on it with a current subscription. The latest definitions downloaded just fine. Curiously, they officially retired XP support in February 2021

Comodo still has a version that supports XP for retro XP users;

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[stinger608]

Most virus/malware now skip anything earlier than Vista/win 7 ( but not all so be warned users )

Comodo still has a version that supports XP for retro XP users;

Also, Avast Free still supports XP.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Just saw this and thought it might be useful for some who visit this thread.

Plop Boot Manager 5.0 - Download

www.plop.at

Yes, the name is funny, but it's kinda cool!

 

[stef]

The problem I have with most of the AV software is they try to be everything else besides main function. They are resource hogs and unusable on old systems.
EDIT: Just checked. Last "good" Malwarebytes version was 2.2.1.* from 2017. It is still getting database updates. But don't let it to upgrade itslef.

 

[QuietBob]

The problem I have with most of the AV software is they try to be everything else besides main function. They are resource hogs and unusable on old systems.

Norton uses around 80 MB running in the background and up to 234 MB during full system scan on my XP machine. Idle usage is below 1%, but this is on an overclocked quad.

On the other hand, earlier I tested two minimum Win7 rigs with slowest single core CPUs. Microsoft Security Essentials would often stall the whole system and make it unusable, claiming all CPU power. I'd imagine any dual core with 2 GB of RAM could handle real-time protection without a hassle.

 

[Greenslade]

Just saw this and thought it might be useful for some who visit this thread.

Plop Boot Manager 5.0 - Download

www.plop.at

Yes, the name is funny, but it's kinda cool!

He,s one of my favorite YouTubers That's where I first saw the video on Easy2Boot since it was easy to get XP and 7 on one drive.

Just saw this and thought it might be useful for some who visit this thread.

Plop Boot Manager 5.0 - Download

www.plop.at

Yes, the name is funny, but it's kinda cool!

Yes, it's a weird name *Plop* Phils is one of my fav YouTubers The GRX 960 is all good working fine.

 

[Ruru]

Yeah, Phil kicks ass. His videos are damn comfy every time.

Let's fine tune the X58 rig now for its maximum 24/7 clocks. I'll go with 22x multi so the bus isn't going to be the problem. When I find out the max stable CPU clock, I'll fine tune the RAM and find a compromise between them.

 

[stinger608]

The problem I have with most of the AV software is they try to be everything else besides main function. They are resource hogs and unusable on old systems.
EDIT: Just checked. Last "good" Malwarebytes version was 2.2.1.* from 2017. It is still getting database updates. But don't let it to upgrade itslef.

That is a pretty awesome boot manager!!!

As long as you don't mind, I'm putting Plop in the original post.

 

[stef]

One more card refurbished. I got this from @Trekkie4 in exchange for Asus V8200T2 Deluxe:

Nice overclocker:

It starts to fall apart at ~340MHz.

 

[Ruru]

One more card refurbished. I got this from @Trekkie4 in exchange for Asus V8200T2 Deluxe:
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Nice overclocker:
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It starts to fall apart at ~340MHz.

Ah, GF4 Ti. Those were great cards. Need to source one too, funny how they used those external temperature sensors back in the day, as an internal sensor came into play in NV30.

Talk about reusing older, smaller drives in a second PC.

3x 120GB SSD, 2x 128GB SSD, 2x 2.5" 250GB HDD, 250GB 3.5" HDD, 500GB 3.5" HDD

 

[stef]

Any idea how to fix warped PCB on a graphics card? I got X1900XT that's pretty warped. It seems factory thermal pads were a tad too thick (or did not deform much) and heatsink pressure caused PCB to warp.

 

[Ruru]

Any idea how to fix warped PCB on a graphics card? I got X1900XT that's pretty warped. It seems factory thermal pads were a tad too thick (or did not deform much) and heatsink pressure caused PCB to warp.

Does it work? At least I haven't had any problems with any bent/warped motherboards even once.

 

[stef]

Yes, it seems to work just fine. Original pads were ~1.5mm. I intend to put on 1mm ones from Arctic.
It's fairly long PCB and warping is visible. I thought of heating it up a bit with hairdryer or loading it with some books .

 

[Ruru]

Yes, it seems to work just fine. Original pads were ~1.5mm. I intend to put on 1mm ones from Arctic.
It's fairly long PCB and warping is visible. I thought of heating it up a bit with hairdryer or loading it with some books .

Could work. And yeah, I remember X1800/X1900 being long cards when they were the enthusiast-class cards

 

[Dragokar]

I have something to show again. Just tested them and afterwards I put them back into safe storage.

The HD2900XT is kinda weird labeled and the HD 4770 is one of the uncommon ones with the first AMD ref cooler. Not the egg shape one.

Spoiler: pictures

 

[stef]

Why weird? Looks like a referent design.
Few screws on metal frame look messed up ... that's first thing I look on those cards .

 

[Dragokar]

Why weird? Looks like a referent design.
Few screws on metal frame look messed up ... that's first thing I look on those cards .

Look at the white and the green label.

 

[stef]

Good thing is: it's a 1GB GDDR4 card. Somebody just added frame form another card. I don't think it was factory labeld that way.

 

[Ruru]

Good thing is: it's a 1GB GDDR4 card. Somebody just added frame form another card. I don't think it was factory labeld that way.

That's what I was going to post as well. Though could be from factory but those are pretty rare situations.

GDDR4 was pretty rare. IIRC only X1950 XTX, 2600 XT, 2900 Pro/XT and 3870 used it (and their FireGL counterparts).

 

[stef]

It would be great if it was.