Windows 11 General Discussion

Space Lynx · Jan 17, 2022

is there an easy go to place to get all the patches I need for win 11 on older gen unsupported cpu?

or do i just download the latest win 11 ISO, and mount it to usb boot drive with rufus? i don't have to apply any patches over that?

edit: then just shutupten to block all future updates for stability reasons

lexluthermiester · Jan 17, 2022

lynx29 said:
is there an easy go to place to get all the patches I need for win 11 on older gen unsupported cpu?

Do you have me on ignore?

lynx29 said:
or do i just download the latest win 11 ISO, and mount it to usb boot drive with rufus?

Yup, it's that simple. The latest Rufus will give you the option to install the TPM removal patches as the ISO written to the target drive.

Space Lynx · Jan 17, 2022

lexluthermiester said:
Do you have me on ignore?

Yup, it's that simple. The latest Rufus will give you the option to install the TPM removal patches as the ISO written to the target drive.

nope. but I didn't understand your wording before or Mussels. you both were talking about patches but I didn't fully understand.

this makes sense now.

lexluthermiester · Jan 17, 2022

lynx29 said:
nope. but I didn't understand your wording before or Mussels. you both were talking about patches but I didn't fully understand.

this makes sense now.

Ah ok.

Give it a try! Works like a charm.

Space Lynx · Jan 17, 2022

lexluthermiester said:
Ah ok. Give it a try! Works like a charm.

i will go install it now, all done with the prep.

i will run win update a few times, reboot, then do shutupten for about 6 months. meh. should be fine, all i use it for is steam and zoom/work

Mussels · Jan 18, 2022

lynx29 said:
i will go install it now, all done with the prep.

i will run win update a few times, reboot, then do shutupten for about 6 months. meh. should be fine, all i use it for is steam and zoom/work

Theres a guide in my sig, use rufus - it's the bomb

theFOoL · Jan 18, 2022

lynx29 said:
is there an easy go to place to get all the patches I need for win 11 on older gen unsupported cpu?

or do i just download the latest win 11 ISO, and mount it to usb boot drive with rufus? i don't have to apply any patches over that?

edit: then just shutupten to block all future updates for stability reasons

Use WAU LINK

Space Lynx · Jan 18, 2022

Mussels said:
Theres a guide in my sig, use rufus - it's the bomb

yep rufus was nice, very smooth install. win 11 been up and running for awhile now, thanks everyone.

FFXIV runs great, I do get an error message upon boot every time, but i hit ok or x and it goes away. something about something missing. I will have to take a picture of it and share it tomorrow. everything works fine though so I don't really care.

edit: the error is before i even get a chance to login to win 11 after a reboot or fresh turn on.

Shrek · Jan 18, 2022

22000.438

2022-01 Cumulative Update for Windows 11 for x64-based Systems (KB5010795)
Microsoft Update Catalog

January 17, 2022—KB5010795 (OS Build 22000.438) Out-of-band (microsoft.com)

R-T-B · Jan 18, 2022

Andy Shiekh said:
22000.438

2022-01 Cumulative Update for Windows 11 for x64-based Systems (KB5010795)
Microsoft Update Catalog

January 17, 2022—KB5010795 (OS Build 22000.438) Out-of-band (microsoft.com)

Looks like they screwed up some kind of corperate VPN connections and had to do an out-of-band update. Oof.

tabascosauz · Jan 18, 2022

Andy Shiekh said:
22000.438

2022-01 Cumulative Update for Windows 11 for x64-based Systems (KB5010795)
Microsoft Update Catalog

January 17, 2022—KB5010795 (OS Build 22000.438) Out-of-band (microsoft.com)

R-T-B said:
Looks like they screwed up some kind of corperate VPN connections and had to do an out-of-band update. Oof.

This is a crazy coincidence.........I was typing up a reply earlier today but lost it to the nether.

About how I had been living on WIn 11, but had to roll back to 10 for the umpteenth time because when Windscribe VPN was on, it was randomly crashing not only my browser but my entire PC. On one occasion it sent me chasing after a red herring by alleging a Cache Hierarchy WHEA on Core 1 (all my CO settings are beyond stable), and clearly was misleading since reducing the undervolt did nothing to change the problem.

And there were no accompanying error Events so I couldn't even troubleshoot. I might jump back to Win 11 if this fixes it. Windscribe uses some sort of IKE shindig to connect, but disabling it and changing to a different protocol in the app had no effect.

Space Lynx · Jan 18, 2022

I just hope AMD gets special treatment like Intel did for Win 11 at some point, cause having to listen to this crap really annoys me. This new CEO annoys crap out of me. It's like watching a car salesman commercial. lol

Intel CEO says AMD is in the rearview mirror and 'never again will they be in the windshield'

Pat is good for a sound bite!

www.pcgamer.com

R-T-B · Jan 18, 2022

lynx29 said:
I just hope AMD gets special treatment like Intel did for Win 11 at some point, cause having to listen to this crap really annoys me. This new CEO annoys crap out of me. It's like watching a car salesman commercial. lol

Intel CEO says AMD is in the rearview mirror and 'never again will they be in the windshield'

Pat is good for a sound bite!

www.pcgamer.com

There's not really any special treatment AMD cpus need (other than fixing that early cache screwup, which they already did). They are not any revolutionary cpu layout that requires changes to the scheduler like big.little did.

tabascosauz · Jan 18, 2022

R-T-B said:
There's not really any special treatment AMD cpus need (other than fixing that early cache screwup, which they already did). They are not any revolutionary cpu layout that requires changes to the scheduler like big.little did.

Was there a 3rd fix for L3 that I missed? First two fixes did nothing to fix L3 consistency.

But fully agree, Windows 11 seems to be quite beneficial for Ryzen in most games - clocks low and load spread out to bring temps down, but fps equal or better than Win 10. Just don't try and top your Win 10 benchmark scores, and don't look for in-game clocks e-peen :laugh:

R-T-B · Jan 18, 2022

tabascosauz said:
Was there a 3rd fix for L3 that I missed? First two fixes did nothing to fix L3 consistency.

I haven't had bench inconsistencies in AIDA64 for a few weeks, so maybe.

Chomiq · Jan 18, 2022

lynx29 said:
I just hope AMD gets special treatment like Intel did for Win 11 at some point, cause having to listen to this crap really annoys me. This new CEO annoys crap out of me. It's like watching a car salesman commercial. lol

Intel CEO says AMD is in the rearview mirror and 'never again will they be in the windshield'

Pat is good for a sound bite!

www.pcgamer.com

Nobody's forcing you to listen to it. Actually, you're the one spreading this in TPU.

As for Pat:

Space Lynx · Jan 18, 2022

Chomiq said:
Nobody's forcing you to listen to it. Actually, you're the one spreading this in TPU.

As for Pat:
View attachment 232972

I check PCGamer daily, and will until the day I die. So yes, I am being forced to see it, and will continue to complain as I see fit, and if you don't like it, ignore me on TPU, I could give a **** less.

Chomiq · Jan 18, 2022

lynx29 said:
I check PCGamer daily, and will until the day I die. So yes, I am being forced to see it, and will continue to complain as I see fit, and if you don't like it, ignore me on TPU, I could give a **** less.

Please show us where Pat touched you.

Space Lynx · Jan 18, 2022

Chomiq said:
Please show us where Pat touched you.

My ignore list is growing daily these days it seems. A shame.

tabascosauz · Jan 18, 2022

Okay guys, let's stop it there. Not the place for blue vs. red BS, and linked article has nothing to do with Windows 11.

lexluthermiester · Jan 18, 2022

lynx29 said:
FFXIV runs great, I do get an error message upon boot every time, but i hit ok or x and it goes away. something about something missing. I will have to take a picture of it and share it tomorrow.

Yes, do share. We might be able to help you sort that out.

Andy Shiekh said:
22000.438

2022-01 Cumulative Update for Windows 11 for x64-based Systems (KB5010795)
Microsoft Update Catalog

January 17, 2022—KB5010795 (OS Build 22000.438) Out-of-band (microsoft.com)

Thanks for the links!

tabascosauz · Jan 19, 2022

R-T-B said:
I haven't had bench inconsistencies in AIDA64 for a few weeks, so maybe.

Did a dozen runs, looks like it's still exactly the same L3 crap.

But curiously, the current build is really snappy. As in, Win 10 has always been faster but it noticeably feels like Win 11 has finally caught up. So as long as it's stable, I'm a happy camper.

R-T-B · Jan 19, 2022

tabascosauz said:
Did a dozen runs, looks like it's still exactly the same L3 crap.

But curiously, the current build is really snappy. As in, Win 10 has always been faster but it noticeably feels like Win 11 has finally caught up. So as long as it's stable, I'm a happy camper.

View attachment 233072

Can't say I'm seeing that (I get even figures more or less for L3 now across runs) but I fresh installed just a week ago. Possibly related?

tabascosauz · Jan 19, 2022

R-T-B said:
Can't say I'm seeing that (I get even figures more or less for L3 now across runs) but I fresh installed just a week ago. Possibly related?

Done clean installed 11 half a dozen times while testing the L3 stuff, 2 or 3 times were after "fix" #2. No difference.

Might try the new 3901 BIOS but last time I was on it nothing changed and performance was something of a downgrade from 3601.

R-T-B · Jan 19, 2022

tabascosauz said:
Done clean installed 11 half a dozen times while testing the L3 stuff, 2 or 3 times were after "fix" #2. No difference.

Might try the new 3901 BIOS but last time I was on it nothing changed and performance was something of a downgrade from 3601.

Hmm. Don't know then. I will run it again tomorrow just to be certain and report in.

EDIT: Maybe it's that I am clean installing from media with the fix already on it? Are you using an older media? No idea...

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