Windows 11 General Discussion

[londiste]

Hiding Windows 11’s Teams icon doesn’t just save taskbar space—it also saves RAM

If you’re not using these preinstalled Windows features, disable them.

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I kind of wish some of this type of disappointment would also befall all the Electron-based apps.
IIRC WebView2 as used in Microsoft apps at least shares the runtime as well as some processes.

The understanding that taskbar icon means a running app also seems to be old-fashioned knowledge.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Hiding Windows 11’s Teams icon doesn’t just save taskbar space—it also saves RAM

If you’re not using these preinstalled Windows features, disable them.

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Or you can just uninstall it.

 

[windwhirl]

Speaking of Widgets, for anyone looking for a more... nuclear option, you can disable it system-wide through Group Policy (for Windows 11 Pro users, I've no idea how Home editions can apply the same setting)
You may find it in Computer Configuration, Administrative Templates, Windows components, Widgets.

 

[lexluthermiester]

I've no idea how Home editions can apply the same setting

That would be no. Home does not have Group Policy features.

 

[outpt]

startallback. is anyone playing with this?

 

[lexluthermiester]

startallback. is anyone playing with this?

I've been using it. Lots of good options. But I think I still like Open Shell better as it has the option for classic XP style menus.

 

[AAF Optimus]

Speaking of Widgets, for anyone looking for a more... nuclear option, you can disable it system-wide through Group Policy (for Windows 11 Pro users, I've no idea how Home editions can apply the same setting)
You may find it in Computer Configuration, Administrative Templates, Windows components, Widgets.

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That would be no. Home does not have Group Policy features.

Depending on the policy, you can find it in the registry editor under HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft

 

[lexluthermiester]

Depending on the policy, you can find it in the registry editor under HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft

While true, you can only edit them in the registry. Group Policy Editor is not available on Home editions of Windows. For those who are not familiar with the registry or how to properly make edits, the registry should be left alone.

 

[Mussels]

Hiding Windows 11’s Teams icon doesn’t just save taskbar space—it also saves RAM

If you’re not using these preinstalled Windows features, disable them.

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Oh no. I'll need more RAM.

 

[outpt]

Oh no. I'll need more RAM.

At least 64gb.

 

[Cutechri]

Hiding Windows 11’s Teams icon doesn’t just save taskbar space—it also saves RAM

If you’re not using these preinstalled Windows features, disable them.

arstechnica.com

Looks like it's 2022 and still, nobody has any understanding on how operating systems deal with memory management. That RAM """saved""" from hiding Teams brings you 0 benefit. Nuking Windows features and apps for the sake of "saving" memory is as much snake oil as running CleanMem, Mem Reduct or some other garbage program - I learned this from experience. Operating systems like Windows know how to allocate memory to the relevant tasks, and how to take memory away from unneeded background tasks, no matter if you're gaming or running an intensive all-core workload. Idle memory usage means nothing. If anything, I wish I could force Windows to use more of my RAM at idle to jumpstart programs much quicker than even from my PCIe 4 NVMe. Unused RAM is wasted RAM.

startallback. is anyone playing with this?

Not interested. Windows 11 is the first iteration of Windows to finally allow me to ditch all third party apps that change the start menu. Disliked 10's start menu, loving 11's. Burn me on the stake, don't care.

Those removed features on the new taskbar? Don't care for them. Never even heard of drag and dropping onto the taskbar until people started complaining, I always used alt tab drop.

 

[lexluthermiester]

That RAM """saved""" from hiding Teams brings you 0 benefit. Nuking Windows features and apps for the sake of "saving" memory is as much snake oil as running CleanMem, Mem Reduct or some other garbage program - I learned this from experience

Ah, but anything that uses RAM also uses CPU cycles, which can slow a machine down. Most people don't have super powerful PC like the general audience of users that come here. Hell, even many of the users here are running older, less powerful systems as a daily driver. So in factual application, anything that can ease system resource usage is a positive thing. Hardly "snake-oil".

Not interested. Windows 11 is the first iteration of Windows to finally allow me to ditch all third party apps that change the start menu. Disliked 10's start menu, loving 11's. Burn me on the stake, don't care.

While I disagree with your premise, I agree with the statement about the Windows 10 start menu as it was unacceptable as a functional menu. IF I was forced to use 11's Start Menu, I could live with it. However, having choices is ALWAYS a good thing.

 

[Cutechri]

Ah, but anything that uses RAM also uses CPU cycles, which can slow a machine down. Most people don't have super powerful PC like the general audience of users that come here. Hell, even many of the users here are running older, less powerful systems as a daily driver. So in factual application, anything that can ease system resource usage is a positive thing. Hardly "snake-oil".

Any device (as in CPU) that Windows 11 supports will have no issues with such things. By experience I didn't mean just my main, powerful rig. I have other low end devices that are still supported by Windows 11 to test on. Running the system naked, with no preinstalled apps or features, versus running it stock, has made 0 difference to performance. If you're running Windows 11 on a very old unsupported CPU, you're doing it wrong. Heck, if you're running it on an unsupported CPU at all, you should reconsider, but that's another can of worms entirely.

While I disagree with your premise, I agree with the statement about the Windows 10 start menu as it was unacceptable as a functional menu. IF I was forced to use 11's Start Menu, I could live with it. However, having choices is ALWAYS a good thing.

Yeah can't argue with that. Personally not interested in that product. I wouldn't have used a third party start menu replacement if I could've helped it, now I can, since I actually like 11's menu and live tiles are gone.

 

[Mussels]

If its something i never, ever use (teams) it's valid to ditch it

 

[lexluthermiester]

Any device (as in CPU) that Windows 11 supports will have no issues with such things.

Ah, but there are A LOT of people using the bypass to install 11 on CPUs not "officially" supported by microsoft. For example, only one( 1 ) of my PC's has an officially supported CPU. All but one is running Windows 11. The one that isn't runs Android X86. But if I were to put Windows on it, Windows 11 would be the choice. And yes, I would uninstall Teams and all the other crap I don't want running. Why? It's not just that the system in question is a dual core i5 laptop, but also that I don't want unneeded programs running in the background.

So again, reducing system resource load is never a bad thing, especially on older systems.

 

[windwhirl]

So again, reducing system resource load is never a bad thing, especially on older systems.

Also, reminder that officially supported processors include dual cores. Now, I'm not gonna say you need six cores or eight cores, or any other number, but dual cores, even on the latest architectures, can feel a bit constrained. Granted, you also should have considered your workload when choosing a combination of CPU, RAM, etc., but budget is also a thing and not everyone can afford a system that comfortably meet their needs with performance to spare.

 

[jaiq]

Using optimized software even on a beast of a machine actually makes a difference. I prefer things to stay efficient. Less worries about stuff breaking/crashing.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Also, reminder that officially supported processors include dual cores. Now, I'm not gonna say you need six cores or eight cores, or any other number, but dual cores, even on the latest architectures, can feel a bit constrained. Granted, you also should have considered your workload when choosing a combination of CPU, RAM, etc., but budget is also a thing and not everyone can afford a system that comfortably meet their needs with performance to spare.

Excellent points.

Using optimized software even on a beast of a machine actually makes a difference. I prefer things to stay efficient. Less worries about stuff breaking/crashing.

Exactly. Letting things run in the background when they're not needed is a waste of resources and power.

 

[Mussels]

They should have that preloading function, but ONLY if it's been activated within the last week

 

[thesmokingman]

Welp, that didn't take long... wiped drive and back to 10. 11 broke Windscribe's VPN, and a host of other networking issues with Samba and plain ole peer to peer broken. I didn't feel like putting in the hours to find and fix.

 

[outpt]

Went back to W10. Having constant networking disconnects. Have no idea why.

 

[theFOoL]

LOL like Xp is good, Vista was crap in a way, 7 was perfect, 8/8.1 can go blow a horn, and 10 is like 7. 11 idk... Just something is so off about it

 

[lexluthermiester]

Welp, that didn't take long... wiped drive and back to 10. 11 broke Windscribe's VPN, and a host of other networking issues with Samba and plain ole peer to peer broken. I didn't feel like putting in the hours to find and fix.

Went back to W10. Having constant networking disconnects. Have no idea why.

This thread's topic is about Windows 11. It is not about Windows 10. Kind keep your Windows 10 regression discussion elsewhere. Thank You.

 

[windwhirl]

They should have that preloading function, but ONLY if it's been activated within the last week

For the record, at least since Windows 10 the OS automatically disables services that haven't seen any use for some time. Alas, that doesn't happen for me or most of the technically inclined here because the first thing we do after a clean install is disable all the stuff we don't care about.

 

[Deleted member 74752]

Even on the trimmed down versions I have been testing 11 is just downright annoying. I'll pass and just hang onto 10 as long as I can.