Steam Deck Hardware Reviews

sam_86314 · Feb 7, 2022

LTT posted a review of the Steam Deck.

...and an unboxing.

Gamers Nexus also released their review.

elghinnarisa said:
For those who don't want to watch a whole long video, here are some screencaps and rundowns from GN. I'll throw them in a spoiler tag so they wont fill up the whole page.

First look with the backplate on.
MEM4 does get warmer than the rest because of it's position.
BAT_19 is the charging IC which does get quite toasty over all, but it is within spec.

CPU/GPU temperatures are perfectly fine for the APU used.
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This time with the backplate cover off
The charging IC gets way too warm, so its not recommended to operate it with the backplate off, unless you love the smell of melting ICs in the morning.

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Fan hysterises is slightly annoying. The fan itself is not loud or obnoxious, but you can feel the fan ramping up and down. At idle it tends to do that quite often.
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Fan noise test is a bit bugged, they used DMC5 but it got stuck in a infinite loading screen which is why the first section looks strange. The dip is when they restart it.
Human interaction noise is filtered out of the graph, except the spike at the end which is when they plugged in the charger.

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Battery life is not really the same 2-8 hours Valve wrote about, but still pretty decent.
Their testing is not the same as Valve, and GN tested with user input for the duration (aka, rubber band on the sticks) while Valve tested without user input.

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The device can fast charge to 80% in 1 hour, but for a complete charge it takes up to 3 hours, which is common charging behavior.
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The charging brick provided is 45w which does max out during gameplay and charging simultaneously. You can however still game and charge at the same time, just slower.
Its a 5-15w TDP APU but they also note that TDP values in this case mean little.

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The rest are just some framerate and frametime stuff
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And the last part is a quick latency test, which is of course highly tied to framerate of whatever you are playing on it.

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Review from a smaller YouTuber; The Phawx. Thanks, @Nordic

Teardown from GN

I want it.

Solaris17 · Feb 7, 2022

Hope TPU does one because I refuse to watch this dude.

TheoneandonlyMrK · Feb 7, 2022

Solaris17 said:
Hope TPU does one because I refuse to watch this dude.

I hope TPU do too but I'll watch this and anything else related and read any opinions I can find, without any salt.

Really looking forward to it's release.

Mac the Geek · Feb 7, 2022

Solaris17 said:
Hope TPU does one because I refuse to watch this dude.

If I try to watch Youtube videos at my desk, I'm gonna get called into the boss's office.

Give me a review with those, whaddayacallem... words? Yeah, give me a review with words. Words, in writing, formed into sentences. For reading.

sam_86314 · Feb 7, 2022

Solaris17 said:
Hope TPU does one because I refuse to watch this dude.

Just found that Gamers Nexus also has a review. Just started watching it, but they're more likely to do real in-depth testing.

EDIT: They start out by measuring airflow from the cooler and mounting thermocouples to all of the ICs. Can't get much more in-depth than that.

theFOoL · Feb 7, 2022

I watched Linus and indeed he's way better than the other guy (I don't watch his content really) as I linked to my Friend thus he's excited

sam_86314 · Feb 7, 2022

theFOoL said:
I watched Linus and indeed he's way better than the other guy (I don't watch his content really) as I linked to my Friend thus he's excited

They target different audiences. GN gets into extreme technical detail, whereas LTT covers it more from a general usage case.

I enjoy both perspectives.

INSTG8R · Feb 7, 2022

theFOoL said:
I watched Linus and indeed he's way better than the other guy (I don't watch his content really) as I linked to my Friend thus he's excited

CAnt stand Linus, love Steve’s reviews , he is just pure “nuts and bolts” reviews and his teardows are the beat. Linus is the PewdiPie of tech reviewers…
I just can’t wait until Steve gets his 70k fan testing rig up and running.

Kanan · Feb 7, 2022

Solaris17 said:
Hope TPU does one because I refuse to watch this dude.

Some of LTT is really good, while some other stuff is clickbait trash. Like the video yesterday of "10 TB RAM" - such a nonsense. Typical Youtube channel.

sam_86314 said:
Just found that Gamers Nexus also has a review. Just started watching it, but they're more likely to do real in-depth testing.

GN is much better suitable for people here, or tech enthusiasts.

Nordic · Feb 7, 2022

More reviews

elghinnarisa · Feb 7, 2022

For those who don't want to watch a whole long video, here are some screencaps and rundowns from GN. I'll throw them in a spoiler tag so they wont fill up the whole page.

First look with the backplate on.
MEM4 does get warmer than the rest because of it's position.
BAT_19 is the charging IC which does get quite toasty over all, but it is within spec.

CPU/GPU temperatures are perfectly fine for the APU used.

This time with the backplate cover off
The charging IC gets way too warm, so its not recommended to operate it with the backplate off, unless you love the smell of melting ICs in the morning.

Fan hysterises is slightly annoying. The fan itself is not loud or obnoxious, but you can feel the fan ramping up and down. At idle it tends to do that quite often.

Fan noise test is a bit bugged, they used DMC5 but it got stuck in a infinite loading screen which is why the first section looks strange. The dip is when they restart it.
Human interaction noise is filtered out of the graph, except the spike at the end which is when they plugged in the charger.

Battery life is not really the same 2-8 hours Valve wrote about, but still pretty decent.
Their testing is not the same as Valve, and GN tested with user input for the duration (aka, rubber band on the sticks) while Valve tested without user input.

The device can fast charge to 80% in 1 hour, but for a complete charge it takes up to 3 hours, which is common charging behavior.

The charging brick provided is 45w which does max out during gameplay and charging simultaneously. You can however still game and charge at the same time, just slower.
Its a 5-15w TDP APU but they also note that TDP values in this case mean little.

The rest are just some framerate and frametime stuff

And the last part is a quick latency test, which is of course highly tied to framerate of whatever you are playing on it.

W1zzard · Feb 7, 2022

Solaris17 said:
Hope TPU does one because I refuse to watch this dude.

No review planned at TPU

Batou1986 · Feb 7, 2022

For the price of this thing seems like Switch or Geforce now is a better option.

neatfeatguy · Feb 7, 2022

I can't bring myself to watch youtube videos....not just youtube, but videos in general. I tried checking out a few reviews here and there in the past where you watch the videos, but I don't have the millennial or whatever the most current generation's attention span of a goldfish to think what they provide is worthwhile. Editing on a lot of these videos suck or they have bad music or the sound of their voice is worse to me than listening to someone chewing food (and I hate the sound of chewing food).

I'm not even that old, but I'd rather read about something in the newspaper over watching a video. I guess there's probably something wrong with the rest of the world and I'm the only normal one left.

sam_86314 · Feb 7, 2022

Batou1986 said:
For the price of this thing seems like Switch or Geforce now is a better option.

The Steam Deck isn't really comparable to the Switch.

The Switch is strictly a gaming-focused device. Spec-wise, it's basically a locked-down Android tablet from 2015.

The Steam Deck looks to essentially be a full-on x86-based personal computer that you do whatever you want with. You can either run the stock OS, or you can install whatever other OS you want (I personally will probably end up putting Windows 10 LTSC on mine since I have a lot of non-Steam games, and I also want to use it as more than just a gaming device). You'll also likely have the option to just use it as a portable computer rather than a strictly gaming-focused device.

I'd also imagine that the Steam Deck has enough power to run emulators like Yuzu or Ryujinx, so you can still play Switch games on it. Emulation potential is the main thing that excites me about it; a portable device that can play all of the games I like.

On a less related note, I find it amusing that Grammarly keeps trying to change "Steam Deck" to "Stream Deck". I'm sure they'll fix that at some point.

Assimilator · Feb 7, 2022

Ah yes, a portable x86 gaming console that nobody wants (despite what the Valve fanboys claim) and will almost certainly be nothing more than a memory within a year. Honestly glad W1zz isn't wasting any time on this stillborn turd.

sam_86314 said:
You'll also likely have the option to just use it as a portable computer rather than a strictly gaming-focused device.

We already have those, they're called "laptops". Why you would want to even attempt to use a device without a keyboard or mouse as anything but what it's designed for, is beyond me.

TheoneandonlyMrK · Feb 7, 2022

Assimilator said:
Ah yes, a portable x86 gaming console that nobody wants (despite what the Valve fanboys claim) and will almost certainly be nothing more than a memory within a year. Honestly glad W1zz isn't wasting any time on this stillborn turd.

We already have those, they're called "laptops". Why you would want to even attempt to use a device without a keyboard or mouse as anything but what it's designed for, is beyond me.

Im thinking your Not a fan.

I'm no valve fanboi though I am a steamdeck fan, it literally is the one kind or fairly capable pc I have wanted for years, I'm surprised How much some people dislike it but we are not all the same eh.

Kanan · Feb 7, 2022

TheoneandonlyMrK said:
Im thinking your Not a fan.

I'm no valve fanboi though I am a steamdeck fan, it literally is the one kind or fairly capable pc I have wanted for years, I'm surprised How much some people dislike it but we are not all the same eh.

It's a much better price compared to other comparable devices like Aya Neo. Latter costs over a thousand bucks, this is for 500 bucks for the acceptable version with SSD included. Suffice to say, both have the same graphics output, there's not a big upside to the Aya Neo, it's just expensive.

sam_86314 · Feb 7, 2022

Assimilator said:
Ah yes, a portable x86 gaming console that nobody wants (despite what the Valve fanboys claim) and will almost certainly be nothing more than a memory within a year. Honestly glad W1zz isn't wasting any time on this stillborn turd.

We already have those, they're called "laptops". Why you would want to even attempt to use a device without a keyboard or mouse as anything but what it's designed for, is beyond me.

To each his own. There are plenty of things I have no interest in that others may be drooling over. We're allowed to like different things.

The Steam Deck is one of those things that I am very interested in.

Nordic · Feb 8, 2022

I do not enjoy watching video reviews, especially not Linus. I spent the last hour watching Linus, Gamers Nexus, and that Phawks video I linked at 2x speed. That is an hour of my life I will not get back.

Everyone who reserved the Steam Deck needs to cancel.

If you cancel I might move further up in line and get my Deck sooner. I am soo HYPED.

Performance is better than I expected. Battery life is exactly what I expected. The hardware looks and feels premium for a reletively modest price. The difference between the SSD and MicroSD was insignificant. I went from cautiously optimistic to full hype.

For the record, Linus once again fails to impress. I have never heard of the Phawks guy before but his video was the most informative of the bunch.

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Batou1986 said:
For the price of this thing seems like Switch or Geforce now is a better option.

I almost got the switch awhile back but I did not like the game library. There are maybe two games that I would want to play. The Deck suites my desires much better. It is a handheld with more or less my entire steam library. I do agree that the switch is better for the vast majority of people. I don't think many people expect the Deck to be anything more than an exciting piece of niche hardware.

I am not sure how GeForce now is even a comparable option. Very apples and orangutans.

Assimilator said:
We already have those, they're called "laptops". Why you would want to even attempt to use a device without a keyboard or mouse as anything but what it's designed for, is beyond me.

I sincerely doubt it is actually beyond you. Are you honestly so dense that you can't understand that other people have different preferences than you?

neatfeatguy said:
I'm not even that old, but I'd rather read about something in the newspaper over watching a video. I guess there's probably something wrong with the rest of the world and I'm the only normal one left.

I feel very similarly. I think we are a small minority. If we are a minority, then we are not the normal ones.

Lionheart · Feb 8, 2022

Assimilator said:
Ah yes, a portable x86 gaming console that nobody wants (despite what the Valve fanboys claim) and will almost certainly be nothing more than a memory within a year. Honestly glad W1zz isn't wasting any time on this stillborn turd.

We already have those, they're called "laptops". Why you would want to even attempt to use a device without a keyboard or mouse as anything but what it's designed for, is beyond me.

Ah yes cause you speak for me & everyone else, you sounds like a politician.

Kanan · Feb 8, 2022

So I watched the LTT video, he does multiple technical mistakes, eg comparing Steam Deck, which is just another different form factor PC/laptop to a traditional completely new console like PS5 and then says it has "way more launch games", which is a bit ridiculous. And generally exaggerates what it technically is. It's nice and good, but not the "greatest device in 20 years" (his words). Otherwise he says that some buttons could be suboptimal and the screen is good. In general the video is way too hyped up, a typical influencer video, I don't like that, it feels like manipulation.

I'm currently watching the GN video, which is way more normal, journalistic/criticial-like, it'll probably be better.

Edit: some clarifications.

Splinterdog · Feb 8, 2022

W1zzard said:
No review planned at TPU

May we ask why not? It is gaming hardware after all.

Kanan · Feb 8, 2022

Splinterdog said:
May we ask why not? It is gaming hardware after all.

He probably doesn't have a pre-production kit, this is all pre release. Maybe could do a testing later though.

W1zzard · Feb 8, 2022

Splinterdog said:
May we ask why not? It is gaming hardware after all.

Can't get excited for it. Why try playing games on POS hardware, and then people will realize that they suck at Linux

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