TPU's Nostalgic Hardware Club

[Dinnercore]

I don't think anyone really ever stays away from X58 for long
And what a beautiful board, even sans part of the NB heatsink... Total steal for benching. Which component has been damaged?

I know I linked it in my previous post, but this modded BIOS may help you on your ventures. I didn't make it myself and the usual disclaimers come into play, but may be worth a shot if you're up for it. The forum post doesn't immediately state it, but the P5Q-E is in that BIOS package.

The damaged part is a tiny SMD transistor, like this:

Not sure what it does yet, but it is in a non-critical area for me. And thanks for the link, I know about these already. In fact this P5Q-E has been running one from ket for a year or more, modded with Xeon microcode. Which is why it does no longer recognize my E8500s, these have been dropped to make space.

 

[bobbybluz]

Asus M2N32-SLI Deluxe w/ Athlon X2 6400+ and 2GB of Corsair Dominator CM2X1024-6400C4D. Everything bought new, used for a few years then pulled and stuck into a drawer. It was 100% fully functional when retired. That CPU also did double duty as a space heater.

Gigabyte GA-M790GP-UD4H w/ Phenom II 965 and 8GB of G.Skill F2-6400CL5D. Used board off Craigslist missing one SATA port when I got it many years ago. Also fully functional when retired around 2015. The heatsink base is missing because I had a Corsair H80 AIO on it. I have the base in a bag of AIO parts here. That platform was replaced by an Asus P8P67 Deluxe w/ i7 2600K in it. An ex girlfriend ended up with it and her idiot grandson destroyed the PC it was in trying to "fix" it (there was nothing wrong with it).

 

[Greenslade]

The secret is stacking things. You can fit a lot of hardware in a small space that way!

That is a lot of hasal of setting them up all the time surely?

Here's the 64 bit 365.19.

GeForce Game Ready Driver | 365.19 | Windows 7 64-bit, Windows 8.1 64-bit, Windows 8 64-bit, Windows Vista 64-bit | NVIDIA

Download the English (US) GeForce Game Ready Driver for Windows 7 64-bit, Windows 8.1 64-bit, Windows 8 64-bit, Windows Vista 64-bit systems. Released 2016.5.13

www.nvidia.com

Here's the 32 bit 365.19

GeForce Game Ready Driver | 365.19 | Windows 7 32-bit, Windows 8.1 32-bit, Windows 8 32-bit, Windows Vista 32-bit | NVIDIA

Download the English (US) GeForce Game Ready Driver for Windows 7 32-bit, Windows 8.1 32-bit, Windows 8 32-bit, Windows Vista 32-bit systems. Released 2016.5.13

www.nvidia.com

Thanks for that.I had to get SP pack 1 all works fine with that.Is there any way you can give a link for the ethernet driver?It is a dell Inspiron 620. Thanks

 

[68Olds]

Hopefully this will work for you, @Greenslade. Just click the operating system & it will start a zipfile download.
Realtek PCIe Gigabit Ethernet 10/100/1000M Network Driver 10.031 Download | TechSpot

 

[Greenslade]

Why does Windows forever check the disc saying it needs repairing? I never get that with Mac os or Linux?

 

[WhitetailAni]

That is a lot of hasal of setting them up all the time surely?

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Most of my stuff that I've stacked is in storage for one reason or another. My upcoming P4HT build is in there as I haven't bought caps for recapping yet, my iMac G5 is in there since my replacement logic board hasn't arrived yet, I have a bunch of cases in there since I don't need them, etc.

 

[Greenslade]

Hopefully this will work for you, @Greenslade. Just click the operating system & it will start a zipfile download.
Realtek PCIe Gigabit Ethernet 10/100/1000M Network Driver 10.031 Download | TechSpot

I did get the one Snappy Drivers said I needed but when I tried to extract the file it asked me for a password? After that, it came up with the blue screen message saying it had to shut down in case it damaged my PC.?I had the same message on XP integral, so I installed the one Scotty gave me a link for, I had no problems with that one. I will try the 64bit version of Vista it is so easy to do with Easy2Boot.

 

[Mr.Scott]

That is a lot of hasal of setting them up all the time surely?

LOL
I have hardware for probably 50 or more platforms. There is no way you can leave that all set up all the time.
I set up what I'm going to play with, and when I'm done I tear it down and store it again.

 

[Greenslade]

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Most of my stuff that I've stacked is in storage for one reason or another. My upcoming P4HT build is in there as I haven't bought caps for recapping yet, my iMac G5 is in there since my replacement logic board hasn't arrived yet, I have a bunch of cases in there since I don't need them, etc.

I get your point there, they are the ones you can,t use tell you get the parts to repair them.

LOL
I have hardware for probably 50 or more platforms. There is no way you can leave that all set up all the time.
I set up what I'm going to play with, and when I'm done I tear it down and store it again.

I get your point there Scotty.

 

[Ruru]

I dont' have much space either, but somehow its working out. I hang my boards up on the wall.

Just a few days ago I decided to tidy up my RAM collection for DDR2. Got one of these neat boxes:
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Factory seals, Micron label on the side. These things come from the sacred halls. From Micron it was given, Micron it shall contain! Left row -> D9GMH and Tracers. Right row -> D9GKX
I thought 50 slots would be plenty... Guess I'll grab another. Biggest downside -> Can't store sticks with large heatsinks and put the lid on.

While I was browsing, this thing popped up. Rampage III Extreme, missing NB heatsink and a damaged component near the audio section. I only plan to OC on it and it was tested working so I grabbed it. Did not really plan to get back into X58 but for 115€ I kinda had to. Came with a 920 and some RAM.

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Great, now I got even more things to do. I want to set up another X-OC session or two on 775, still have to bin a lot of CPUs, need to bin a LOT of RAM.

In the meantime I also modded my P5Q-E with voltage readpoints like I did on the MSI and I practiced my soldering skills. Took a few caps from random scrap pcbs. There are some really tiny SMDs on DDR2 sticks. 0,15µF. Being able to measure capacitance with my new DMM is nice. The P5Q-E has unpopulated solder pads on the back of the NB that are connected, so I added a few caps out of the socket from a dead 775 board. Just to see if I can manage that without doing any harm to the chip on the other side. So far it was a success, tho I doubt that the P45 NB has any significant ripple that could be improved on. The whole C2D platform seems pretty tame in terms of power requirement.

I'd need a similar holder for RAM too, where those can be bought? Also makes me sad as I broke my R3E which I got for free, though my current P6X58D-E is also awesome.

 

[Dinnercore]

I'd need a similar holder for RAM too, where those can be bought? Also makes me sad as I broke my R3E which I got for free, though my current P6X58D-E is also awesome.

I got that one from the bay, just search for 'ram tray' or 'DIMM tray'. Be careful that you don't get an SO-DIMM one by accident. These are for the short notebook sticks.

 

[Robert B]

NEW HW FOUND!!!

1. AMD Athlon XP 2100+ - AX2100DMT3C
2. AMD Athlon XP 3200+ - AXDA3200DKV4E
3. ExpertMedia MED1600 Ver 1.1 - OPTi 82C928A ISA Sound card
4. MATROX MGA-MIL/MOD2/HP - Matrox IS-STORM / MGA-2064W (MGA Millennium) 4MB PCI - MGA/MIL2/HP5
5. Abit Siluro FX5700 ULTRA
6. Gigabyte GA586AM REV. 1A Socket 5 + Pentium 75MHz SX961
7. Arctic Cooling Copper Silent 2L
8. Chaintech ELT-286B + AMD 80286/16MHz - AMD N80L286-16/S - incomplete, slight corrosion damage, bent
9. PNY Technologies Geforce 4 4200 Ti 64MB AGP
10. Leadtek Winfast A400 TDH - Geforce 6800 AGP
11. 3dfx Skywell Magic 3D II - VooDoo 2
12. Miro Pico 100 FXX ID:LAHV22MV-PCI-1 *** IV22MV-PCX1.04617200.055780199 - Tv tuner + S3 Trio *** Pinnacle Systems GmbH V22MV-PCI-1
13. AMD Athlon 950MHz *** A0950AMT3B
14. ASUS P3B-F Slot 1 REV 1.03 440BX
15. Matched pair of Western Digital Raptor 74GB WD740ADFD
16. Shuttle AK32E V1.1 - VIA KT266A + AXP 2000+
17. ATI AIW 3D RAGE PRO TURBO 109-52300-00 PCI Cable Tuner TV Card
18. Sapphire ATI Radeon X800 Pro 256MB(256 bit) GDDR3 AGP
19. Adaptec AHA-2940W/2940UW
20. Mitsumi CD-ROM DRIVE 16BIT I/F CARD *** 74-1881A *** KU-03294V-ON - a perfect match for my untested Mitsumi CRMC-FX001D CD ROM 2x that I got in 2020
21. 3dfx VooDoo 3 2000 16Mb AGP
22. Intel Pentium II 400MHz - SL3EE
23. Pair of 2x1GB Corsair CM2X1024-6400C5DHX ver 2.1 *** XMS 2 / DHX
24. Medion 9800 XL Ver.100
25. Pine nVIDIA Geforce 3 Ti 200 128MB

More to come!!!

 

[MachineLearning]

ASUS P5K, wanted a beater board to mess around with. Probably gonna throw a modded BIOS on it and socket mod to accept LGA771 CPUs

 

[Greenslade]

Hopefully this will work for you, @Greenslade. Just click the operating system & it will start a zipfile download.
Realtek PCIe Gigabit Ethernet 10/100/1000M Network Driver 10.031 Download | TechSpot

Thanks once more for the link to the network driver,

 

[Ruru]

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ASUS P5K, wanted a beater board to mess around with. Probably gonna throw a modded BIOS on it and socket mod to accept LGA771 CPUs

A true classic, almost everyone had that board in one point. And back then having only PCIe 1.1 wasn't a bottleneck (unlike P45/X38/X48 which had PCIe 2.0).

 

[68Olds]

Thanks once more for the link to the network driver,

Glad I could be of help.

A true classic, almost everyone had that board in one point. And back then having only PCIe 1.1 wasn't a bottleneck (unlike P45/X38/X48 which had PCIe 2.0).

I started my C2D experience with a 975 chipset Abit AW9D-Max and a pair of X1900s in crossfire, then I moved to an X38 (which I eventually flashed to X48) because of crossfire, then I moved to an actual X48 - again because of crossfire. I feel I missed out on a lot of fun with some of the P35 & P45 boards that were around at the time, including that P5K. There were a lot of great mobo’s that could do some insane CPU overclocks with those chipsets running a single GPU, but they took a real hit trying to run crossfire compared to X38/48.

 

[MachineLearning]

The beauteous Abit IP35-Pro. Abit seems to have been a fan favorite for many people for many years, but this is my first from them so it's nigh time to find out why...

Already, I've been in the BIOS and this uGuru monitoring is absurd. Absolute dreamboat. Tells you both EPS12V voltage and 24-pin voltage - I've never seen that before. The color scheme is awesome, blue and orange look fantastic together. Gigabyte wishes they did blue PCBs this well

Allegedly this has vDroop problems with quad cores, but I'd be surprised if it's any worse than that P5K I posted about. With a Q6600, vDroop on the P5K was massive: -50mv from set in BIOS at idle, then -80mv on that (!!!). So this can't possibly be any worse, right?

Also to my understanding lot of people experienced issues where the heatsink wouldn't make good contact with the VRM or northbridge due to it being bent (poor QC or poor design). My sample luckily seems to be perfectly fine, I did add 1mm APT2560 thermal pads which I'm hoping will account for any variances vs the stock 0.5mm pads.

Another motherboard maker under the belt... And solid caps, too!

edit: I just realized that the NB and VRM heatsink make a crescent moon and rising sun. Pretty neat touch!

 

[Trekkie4]

Speaking of which... Well, kinda

Recently I've been playing around with my Q6600 sleeper rig, especially since I upgraded the graphics from 8600GTS to GTX 550Ti. I already finished Portal 2, and am working hard on Grand Theft Auto 4, putting up with Roman's gambling debts and Russian mafia


8600GTS:


GTX 550Ti:


I also took the liberty of OCing that Q6600 to its full potential of 3.00GHz. Risky move, I know (considering the state of things inside that Adison mATX tower) but overall things are working out. And besides ... even IF something gives out, this stuff is fairly easy and cheap to replace, it's not like I'm OCing Slot 1 or Slot A motherboard

By the way, this MSI MS-7592 (G41M-P28) board here is the latest S775 platform available. Unlike many others, it features DDR3 RAM with newer G41 chipset and (according to manual) it can handle up to 8GB of RAM. Unfortunately, I only got 4GB at the moment (2 + 2 configuration) but this may change down the road.

 

[Retrorockit]

3GHz shouldn't be any problem if you have the G0 stepping SLACR version of the Q6600. They do that on stock Voltage.

 

[Trekkie4]

3GHz shouldn't be any problem if you have the G0 stepping SLACR version of the Q6600. They do that on stock Voltage.

Hmm... Don't remember the exact model code/number, but maybe I could search through all the previous TPU posts & find out.

 

[Retrorockit]

The SLACR is 95W the older one is 105W. Some computers won't even boot the older version.

 

[Trekkie4]

The SLACR is 95W the older one is 105W. Some computers won't even boot the older version.

Found it! Good thing I documented everything LINK


And yes, apparently it really is SLACR, G0 stepping (according to HWiNFO64)

Speaking of specs, here are all the details on HW & timings:
CPU:
Q6600 Kentsfield, G0 Stepping (95W TDP)

MBO:
MSI G41M-P28
Intel G41 (Eaglelake) Chipset + ICH7
BIOS Version 12/10/2012, v26.11 (latest one, I've just upgraded it)

RAM:
4GB, DDR3 SDRAM
Clock: 532.8MHz = 1.60X x 333.0MHz
Mode: Dual-Channel
CR: 2T
Timing: 7 - 7 - 7 - 20
tRFC: 86

Memory Modules:
MemorySolution TMS2GB364E082139EM (1)
MemorySolution TMS2GB364E082139EM (2)
Size: 2GB
Clock: 667MHz
ECC: N
Type: DDR3-1333/PC3-10600 DDR3 SDRAM UDIMM

GPU
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 550 Ti (GF116) Point Of View
PCIe v2.0 x16 (5.0 GT/s) @ x16 (2.5 GT/s)
1GB GDDR5 SDRAM, 128-bit

GPU Clock: 405.0MHz
VRAM: 162.0MHz
Shader: 810.0

OS
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (x64) Build 7601 (Service Pack 1)

Drives
SATA 6Gb/s @ 3Gb/s WDC WD5000AAKX-001CA0 (500GB)
ATAPI CD-ROM Drive/F5A (CD-ROM)
ATAPI IOMEGA ZIP250 (Disk Drive)

 

[MachineLearning]

3GHz shouldn't be any problem if you have the G0 stepping SLACR version of the Q6600. They do that on stock Voltage.

Found it! Good thing I documented everything LINK


And yes, apparently it really is SLACR, G0 stepping (according to HWiNFO64)

I've got 3x G0 Q6600's, and all of them can hit 3.5 - 3.6GHz with a bit of fiddling. I betcha yours can hit 3.4GHz at least if you're comfortable upping the voltage

Anandtech did a wonderful piece back in the day on G0 vs B3 stepping for this CPU if you're interested in reading up some more.

 

[Retrorockit]

I don't think the G41 chipset will go 16GB RAM. I think 2x RAM slots was part of the spec. for those. But it is a 130W chipset. I got an X5470 Xeon to run in my G41 Optiplex 380. The Dell BIOS won't allow a QX9650 to boot.

 

[Trekkie4]

I don't think the G41 chipset will go 16GB RAM. I think 2x RAM slots was part of the spec. for those. But it is a 130W chipset. I got an X5470 Xeon to run in my G41 Optiplex 380. The Dell BIOS won't allow a QX9650 to boot.

No, you're right. 8GB is max, I got something wrong & corrected my previous post.

By the way, I gave it a try with different CPU configuration(s) and no, it doesn't work. All I can squeeze out of Q6600 is approx. 3.00GHz, 333MHz. Regardless of the voltage, it simply hangs on POST & reverts back to fail-safe config. Same thing actually as my other Q6600 which ALSO happens to be SLACR and is (oddly enough) also paired with MSI motherboard. This one however is much older model (P43 NEO) and uses DDR2.