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I was dual booting 10 and 11 for a month or two.. I wiped the drive a few days ago and laid a steaming copy of 11 down.. it runs nice :)
 
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but Defender actually turns off the moment you install another AV
To a point, yes. However, it is still present on the system and can be invoked a moments notice, which to me, is unacceptable. Complete removal is all I will accept.

I was dual booting 10 and 11 for a month or two.. I wiped the drive a few days ago and laid a steaming copy of 11 down.. it runs nice :)
Did you go custom or are you a standard ISO install?
 

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To a point, yes. However, it is still present on the system and can be invoked a moments notice, which to me, is unacceptable. Complete removal is all I will accept.


Did you go custom or are you a standard ISO install?
I just went with the standard install..

I feel so boring compared to you guys :oops:
 
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I just went with the standard install..

I feel so boring compared to you guys :oops:
LOL, I did a standard install too (and then went back into Insider Dev builds, but that's besides the point)
 
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It's all good. Us custom ISO geeks are an odd lot.
I definitely would like to give it a try, but eh, my install is rather stable. Not really eager to screw up with it.

Maybe if Windows manages to break itself (only happened once to me) or if I break something first :roll:
 

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It's all good. Us custom ISO geeks are an odd lot.
I tried to run Longhorn on a Celeron 500 with 256mb of ram back in the early 2000s :laugh:

It wasn't very good..
 

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I've done the same and I'm happy with ESET, but Defender actually turns off the moment you install another AV, so no changes in that regard compared to current behavior
^ this
Since it fully self disables when a replacement is installed, it's perfectly fine
 
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I installed Amazon AppStore it installs window virtualization which makes VMware not work screw Microsoft i would rather have VMware than Amazons stupid AppStore
You'll need to configure VMware and/or its VMs to work with HyperV. I know they have a setting for that, though I can't quite remember where or what was it called.

Same deal with Oracle's VirtualBox.
 
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You'll need to configure VMware and/or its VMs to work with HyperV. I know they have a setting for that, though I can't quite remember where or what was it called.

Same deal with Oracle's VirtualBox.
ok thanks, I'll take a look you guys can be so helpful
 
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Ah, you'll also need to enable these two things in Windows features
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Good to know. Does it require HyperV or can it work without it?

HyperV will be enabled, since the Android thing works the same as the Windows Subsystem for Linux.

Windows Subsystem for Android™, which powers the Amazon Appstore and its catalog. The Subsystem includes the Linux kernel and the Android OS based on the Android Open Source Project (AOSP) version 11. It is distributed through the Microsoft Store as part of the Amazon Appstore install, which will allow users to stay updated over time as we continue to add support for more APIs, capabilities, and scenarios. The Subsystem runs in a Hyper-V Virtual Machine, like the Windows Subsystem for Linux.


Virtual Machine Platform
This setting needs to be enabled. For more info, go to Enable virtualization on Windows 11 PCs.

Also, you'll need to enable the CPU's Virtualization feature (in UEFI)
 
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I guess I will not be using the Android app feature. No big loss. I run AndroidX86 on a separate dedicated system anyway. I have HyperV disabled and removed as it can be a very serious security vulnerability.
 
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Now, this is stuff that's happening in the Insider Dev builds and not yet anywhere close to being available in stable Windows 11 releases, but it's interesting to look at, since it points out some changes that might arrive in the next big update for Windows 11.

There are quite a few changes, but I'm just gonna pick the ones that stood out to me (and some of you might want to know about them beforehand, too):

Getting the most controversial one out of way first:

Windows 11 Pro edition now requires internet connectivity. If you choose to setup device for personal use, MSA will be required for setup as well. You can expect Microsoft Account to be required in subsequent WIP flights.

For this one I'll definitely expect people to come out with torches and pitchforks. Also expecting the usual suspects to provide workarounds or straight out hacks that do away with the requirements. Personally not a problem, since I actually take advantage of the account integration, but that's just me.

Pinned app folders. Basically grouping together a bunch of pinned apps and dumping them under one icon (this existed in Windows 10 already, IIRC, with the live tiles).
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File Explorer's Quick Access: ability to pin files. Also will synchronize Office.com's recent and pinned files. For files that are edited in collaboration with other people, the Tiles and Details views will also show the latest activity in them, if changes have been introduced by others.

Power Settings: Microsoft is updating the default power settings to reduce the time the computer waits before entering sleep mode or for turning off the screen. Keep in mind, though, this will ***NOT*** change settings for anyone yet. The updated default settings only apply to clean-installs of this particular Dev build and future ones.

Task Manager: it's finally getting dark mode. I'm no longer going blind every time I open it :laugh: . It's also getting some design changes (though it's kinda weird right now) and Microsoft is currently trying out a new feature called "Efficiency mode", which the user can use to limit the resource usage of any single process (basically to limit CPU-hungry processes so that the system can give CPU time to others). A bit of a niche feature, I guess, but I imagine a few here will be interested if it ever becomes a thing in stable releases.


Dragging and Dropping files is supported again on the Windows taskbar. This feature was available all the way back to... Windows XP (as far back as I can remember, but it's probably older), but it got removed in Windows 11, much to the annoyance of quite a few people here (and probably a lot more out there). Just drag a file over to the application's icon on the taskbar, which will bring out the application window, then drop the file in the application window.

Folder contents preview in File Explorer is back. Another feature available since at least Windows XP that was removed by Windows 11. However, it only shows a preview for one file. Still, better than nothing.
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This last one shouldn't be of note, but one never knows:
TKIP and WEP (WiFi security protocols) support is gonna be killed off at some point. For insider Dev builds, those two are no longer usable starting with this specific build.
 
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I'm about to install Windows from scratch on my Ryzen 2700U laptop soon, and I don't know if I should go 10 or 11. I don't care what the start menu looks like as I don't use it.

What do you think about recent versions of W11? Anything I should be aware of? I know that W11 doesn't support my CPU officially, and IIRC it doesn't matter.

I've been editing isos/wims/esds since W2000. Those days are over I guess, ever since I realized I have only one life. I can do it again if needed tho. Running 1909 right now.

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As it should. Needed to happen long ago. They're both laughably insecure, easily hackable.
TKIP is a lot better than WEP but neither should be used for any serious purpose in our modern era. Same conclusion.
 
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TKIP is a lot better than WEP but neither should be used for any serious purpose in our modern era. Same conclusion.
Agreed. BITD, they were good enough. But that ended in 2010 with the discoveries of very easy ways to exploit each.

I'm about to install Windows from scratch on my Ryzen 2700U laptop soon, and I don't know if I should go 10 or 11.
My advice. Try 11. If you don't like it, you can always format and go with 10.
 

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Windows 11 Pro edition now requires internet connectivity. If you choose to setup device for personal use, MSA will be required for setup as well. You can expect Microsoft Account to be required in subsequent WIP flights.

For this one I'll definitely expect people to come out with torches and pitchforks
You have my pitchfork!!

Personally, I like how they put all the fluff-n-stuff at the top of the blog, and bury the lede 4/5ths of the way down the page.... Definitely pushing people with the belief that they'll just cave to the path of least resistance...
 
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You have my pitchfork!!
I mean, I'm not affected by it since I actually take advantage of the account integration, but I think it's stupid to force it nonetheless.

... I kinda want whoever decided that was a great idea to get the boot.
 
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