TPU's Nostalgic Hardware Club

[Ahhzz]

Huh... This WinTV card of yours looks like Hauppauge but I can't seem to find their logo (or signature) anywhere.

good eye!

 

[Trekkie4]

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good eye!

Not really, I just recognized the label from back in a day


And sorry, I didn't realize that you posted a thumbnail ... now that I enlarged your photo, I can see it even says so on the label.

 

[Dinnercore]

Halfway through the stack I found another E8500 that does 4.50GHz @ 1.25V. And it takes the crown for my new best sample at ambient cooling. I thought my three X5270s that manage 5.0GHz at 1.45-1.47V are as good as Wolfdales can get, but here we are.

Measured real voltage under load with LLC is 1.42V. Ambient 20°C water cooling. I think this one is special. If it fails to scale under cold I'll build a system around this one.

Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 @ 5006.66 MHz - CPU-Z VALIDATOR

[wg3qvj] Validated Dump by Osmium-OC (2022-02-27 22:27:44) - MB: Asus P5Q-E - RAM: 2048 MB

valid.x86.fr

 

[Greenslade]

I have been trying to fix the DLL problems on Vista and downloaded a PC repair tool and it came up with this about the sequential read speed of the ssd being very lowI was fowling this guys video

As you can see from the Crystal Disk info and Mark.Why is it so low when the SSD has hardly been usedI just saw this guys video

it certainly does not feel slow to me.

 

[lexluthermiester]

DILL

What?

 

[Greenslade]

What?

The Dll not found Missing . The thing is i put Vista ob a separate drive and all was ok no problems with them.Then i decided to do a dual boot on another SSD and it came up with the messages about the DLL.It seems to be touch and go if it does work.The only one that works every time is the Intragal XP edition.

 

[lexluthermiester]

The Dll not found .

Oh, ok. DLL's..

 

[Mr.Scott]

The error is because you're missing Visual C++ Redistributable for Visual Studio 2015 on your Windows.

And stop using those bullsh1t PC repair tools programs. They do more harm than good. You have to learn to do this stuff the manual way, otherwise you'll always be in trouble.

 

[Ruru]

The error is because you're missing Visual C++ Redistributable for Visual Studio 2015 on your Windows.

And stop using those bullsh1t PC repair tools programs. They do more harm than good. You have to learn to do this stuff the manual way, otherwise you'll always be in trouble.

I remember those being okay in the XP era, but yeah, they've been crap for ages.

 

[Trekkie4]

Yeah, pretty much all of those "Repair Your Computer" type of apps are full of crap ... sometimes bundled with PUPs and/or even viruses. ESPECIALLY those claiming to speed up your performance and warning you of multiple security issues and asking you to download 3rd party, generic AV security - those are red flag and always result with data thefts and scams.

 

[Ruru]

Yeah, pretty much all of those "Repair Your Computer" type of apps are full of crap ... sometimes bundled with PUPs and/or even viruses. ESPECIALLY those claiming to speed up your performance and warning you of multiple security issues and asking you to download 3rd party, generic AV security - those are red flag and always result with data thefts and scams.

The only thing they were useful in XP era was to fix (or delete) registry errors. After CCleaner became a piece of crap, I haven't used any of those utilies anymore.

 

[lexluthermiester]

After CCleaner became a piece of crap, I haven't used any of those utilies anymore.

CCleaner is still decent and useful as long as you use the portable version and deny it access to the internet. It's handy for uninstalling unwanted built-in apps from Windows 10/11. The registry cleaning function works great. I love Puran Utilities. It hasn't been updated in a little while, but doesn't need to be either. The Puran Defrag utility is currently second to none.

 

[RyzenMaster.sys]

Not a fan of registry cleaners. Rarely see any benefits and they can screw things up massively. Microsoft released their one and promptly revoked it for a reason.

 

[Ruru]

Not a fan of registry cleaners. Rarely see any benefits and they can screw things up massively. Microsoft released their one and promptly revoked it for a reason.

Well, do you remember the XP days when you had to reinstall the OS all the time as it was full of crap?

 

[lexluthermiester]

Rarely see any benefits

It is possible you have not given them a fair go then. I swear by them. A system that gets bogged down with entries that have to be processed but are either null(because they are present & serve no purpose) and/or broken is a real PITN. Higher end systems feel the effect to a lesser degree, but it's still present. A lower end system with modest specs will feel the effect greatly. Cleaning up the registry for systems like that can make a world of difference in overall performance.

and they can screw things up massively

That has not been true for nearly 2 decades.

Well, do you remember the XP days when you had to reinstall the OS all the time as it was full of crap?

I do. STILL deal with that from time to time. BITD, Wise Registry Cleaner was a GodSend. Today I use CCleaner because it's portable, effective, through and doesn't mess things up. An older version of it still works perfectly on XP. It has a backup feature but I've never had to use it as it doesn't screw up the registry.

Look at it this way everyone, the Windows registry is very much the internal mechanism for the "engine" of the OS. Like every complicated engine, it needs servicing and a tune up from time to time. Otherwise it gets out of wack and can break the OS, even on modern versions of Windows. A quality registry cleaner is like a good mechanic, it'll fix things up, clean things up and get the registry working like new again.

 

[Ruru]

Made some nice upgrades for an old HP dc7600c I received some time ago. It had originally a P4 640 (upgraded to D 925), 2.5GB DDR2 and 945G board with integrated GPU and no Core2 support. Modified the motherboard tray a little, now it houses an Asus P5QL Pro, C2Q Q9500 @ 3.1GHz, 4GB DDR2 & HD 3450 PCIe x1. What do I need that system to? Well, it has a PATA connector so I can transfer games to my PS2's harddrive. I could put a HD 7850 or a R7 240 as a GPU though, the HD 3450 was just at hand

I'll post some pics later, though I don't have any "before" pics. :/

 

[lexluthermiester]

Made some nice upgrades for an old HP dc7600c I received some time ago.

Is that a low profile system?

 

[Ruru]

Is that a low profile system?

Nope, a standard ATX sized case with full-height slots.

edit: though I have the low-profile brackets for the 3450 if needed

 

[MachineLearning]

Mainly have some CPU-Z validations today. I already posted about this motherboard so I'll save you some space here.

I have a total of four Phenom II X4 960T CPUs: one does not unlock at all, and the rest unlock up to 6 cores and are all stable at 4.0GHz+ (yay!). All three that do so, have a core that eventually craps out past ~4.10-4.20GHz, limiting reasonable all-core OC to about 4.1GHz. To list:

#1, prod wk 39 / 2011: Tops out at 4.177GHz, 6-cores
#2, prod wk 40 / 2011: Took this down to 5 cores but got them stable at 4.31GHz, ~1.6v (most efficient sample I tested)
#3, prod wk 40 / 2011 (not a typo): Did mainly suicide runs with this one as it didn't do so well all-core ( < = 4.1GHz 6c stable) and was hotter overall, so I gradually took down each individual core that died first at a given voltage/frequency in Prime95 blend. Luckily core 1 was pretty robust, as it is impossible to disable it in BIOS unless you press the power button Max speeds that I could validate were 4.4GHz 5c (!), and 4.55GHz with 3 cores enabled, all at 1.6v. Deactivating the last worst core unfortunately was not fruitful at higher frequencies, therefore I probably reached this sample's limits on air or core 1 was the next worst core.
#4, prod wk 44 / 2011: doesn't unlock either core so I didn't bother overclocking it yet it's in time-out.

I clearly did not push HT or NB speeds for any of this, just wanted to get the core up there. Specs:
- AMD Phenom II X4 960T @ variable settings
- 2x4GB DDR3 AMD R7 Performance Edition rated 1600MHz CL8 (Patriot OEM)
- ASUSTeK M4A89GTD Pro/USB3
- 128GB SanDisk X400 SSB
- DeepCool Gammaxx 400 w/ 2x Arctic P12 PWM fans (FDB), MX-2 thermal paste
- Super Flower Leadex III Bronze Pro 650W PSU
- Ugly DIY testbench (secret ingredient: MSI)

Would love to hear from others who know what these chips do under typical conditions, this is the most recent platform I've been playing around with and learning about. For example what's considered a good RAM speed for these CPUs? From what I can gather, Phenom II best likes low-med frequency, tightest possible timings. I couldn't push higher-rated RAM very much past 1600MHz even at a high CPU/NB voltage, so I expect the ceiling to be low on that front...

 

[Ruru]

Pretty fine Phenoms there. I have two 955 BEs, I'll check those some day though I don't have a good AM2+/AM3 board around..

 

[Greenslade]

CCleaner is still decent and useful as long as you use the portable version and deny it access to the internet. It's handy for uninstalling unwanted built-in apps from Windows 10/11. The registry cleaning function works great. I love Puran Utilities. It hasn't been updated in a little while, but doesn't need to be either. The Puran Defrag utility is currently second to none.

I did tried to download CCeaner but could not get it to download on VISTA .I want to buy some DVD-r discs but the TDK ones i want to buy are 1x8,i see that most of the other ones are 1x16 ,what are the differences ,should i go for the 1x16?

 

[Ruru]

I did tried to download CCeaner but could not get it to download on VISTA .I want to buy some DVD-r discs but the TDK ones i want to buy are 1x8,i see that most of the other ones are 1x16 ,what are the differences ,should i go for the 1x16?

No actual difference, they just mean the maximum supported burning speed. I burned CDs at 16x and DVDs at 4x anyway back in the day, never used the maximum speed.

 

[Greenslade]

Not a fan of registry cleaners. Rarely see any benefits and they can screw things up massively. Microsoft released their one and promptly revoked it for a reason.

I haven,t used one for years ,but you don,t need one on a Mac.I have had a Mac for four years now and have had zero problems.Its backed up all the time so if i do get any problems i just roll back.

No actual difference, they just mean the maximum supported burning speed. I burned CDs at 16x and DVDs at 4x anyway back in the day, never used the maximum speed.

Thanks for that ,i will buy them,i wanted the spindal ones anyway which they are.I have never burned full speed anyway, chances of errors if you do.

 

[Ruru]

Thanks for that ,i will buy them,i wanted the spindal ones anyway which they are.I have never burned full speed anyway, chances of errors if you do.

Exactly Just make sure to get good quality discs, though probably those TDKs are fine. I remember back in the day when many relatives were downloading, well, all kind of things, they mostly used cheap bulk discs and the quality wasn't that great.

 

[Trekkie4]

TDK, anyone?