AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D

[yeeeeman]

People are looking at specific games, but you should look at the overall performance. At 720p, it is 10% better than 5800X and it slots between 12700K and 12900K. That is a good feat, but it is a waste of silicon, given how much space that 64MB takes, almost a full chiplet.

 

[demu]

Not the best possible memory for Ryzen (latencies other than CL quite poor), and no information about either single or dual rank (which may have a big impact).
Alder Lake has about the best DDR5 memory money can buy.
Ryzen:
2x 16 GB DDR4-3600
16-20-20-34 1T
Infinity Fabric @ 1800 MHz 1:1

Alder Lake:
2x 16 GB G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB DDR5-6000
36-36-36-76 2T / Gear 2

 

[thegnome]

Hmm, would putting something like 3800cl16 increase the performance..? Would be fair given that ddr5 kit is pretty top-notch while the ddr4 kit is pretty slow for todays standards.

 

[LupintheIII]

Congrats for the early review and thanks for your hard work as always.
Honestly I'm extremely curious of what that 96MB of L3$ can do in combination with 128MB of L3$ and SAM with a 6900XT or 6800XT (to keep condition similar with RTX 3080 tested here), so curious I'm considering buying one myself to test it!
Do you think such a test could be possible??
I know it's incredibly time consuming, but I belive it can be a great piece of content ;-)

 

[W1zzard]

Hmm, would putting something like 3800cl16 increase the performance..? Would be fair given that ddr5 kit is pretty top-notch while the ddr4 kit is pretty slow for todays standards.

Yes, but the CPU can't run DDR4-3800 at 1:1, max FCLK is 1866 MHz

 

[grammar_phreak]

Could you add Farcry 6?
It seems Alder lake does really well with Farcry 6 and I wanted to see how the 5800x3d compares.

 

[Selaya]

is like, everything about it locked? cant change any voltages at all? like, the IOD ones related to memory/fclk, they shouldn't hurt the 3dcache no

 

[LupintheIII]

Exactly. Have been doing some tests @4K with my new (finally!) 3080 and tbh if I limit my 5950x to single CCD and 6 cores/ccd (6 cores in total like a 3600x) it doesn't make a difference.

Well, you didn't need 5800X3D review to be out to know that

 

[darksf]

Well you all look Avg FPS , look at the framepacing this CPU is delivering the smoothest frametimes and has 99.9%th higher than the average framerates of most of the other CPUs. Which means it is delivering the smoothest gameplay with less hickups no matter the resolution or the GPU.

 

[demu]

Yes, but the CPU can't run DDR4-3800 at 1:1, max FCLK is 1866 MHz

Would you please show where that is stated?
Almost all Ryzen 5000-series can run FCLK 1900 or 2000. Even many Ryzen 300o-series work at FCLK 1900 (like my TR 3960X).
A fast (dual rank) b-die kit @3600 CL16-16-16-36 or even 3600 CL14-14-14-34 would have given quite a bit better results.

 

[damric]

Very interesting, but I guess I won't be getting this since the improvement at 4K just doesn't matter over my existing 5800x.

 

[W1zzard]

Would you please show where that is stated?
Almost all Ryzen 5000-series can run FCLK 1900 or 2000. Even many Ryzen 300o-series work at FCLK 1900 (like my TR 3960X).
A fast (dual rank) b-die kit @3600 CL16-16-16-36 or even 3600 CL14-14-14-34 would have given quite a bit better results.

It's not stated anywhere.. I tested it, 1866 POST, 1900 no POST, which probably means WHEA errors at 1866

 

[Xebec]

Well written summary and appreciate the detailed benchmarks. I was expecting more than WinRAR to really appreciate the cache but this is still quite interesting.

I'm really curious if Microsoft Flight Sim will benefit from the cache..

 

[nicamarvin]

It's not stated anywhere.. I tested it, 1866 POST, 1900 no POST, which probably means WHEA errors at 1866

The Bios you are using lacks the 3D V-Cache Optimizer Driver and you are using an unoptimized AGESA 1.2.0.6c. release. These benchmarks need to be redone when AMD releases the 3D V-Cache Optimizer Driver abroad(currently only available for Gigabyte MB) and 1usmus is stating the performance is enhanced by AGESA 1207

 

[Totally]

Dang, should have bit the bullet and got a 5900x months ago.

 

[Zareek]

I'm underwhelmed for the price. With the exception of a few odd ducks, it's less than 10% faster than 5800x for 20% more cost.

 

[W1zzard]

The Bios he is using is without the 3D V-Cache Optimizer Driver and unoptimized AGESA 1.2.0.6c. These benchmarks need to be redone when AMD releases the 3D V-Cache Optimizer Driver abroad(currently only available for Gigabyte MB) and 1usmus is stating the performance is enhanced by AGESA 1207

Not true, let's talk again in a couple of days when other sites posted their reviews using the same setup

 

[Iain Saturn]

Very impressive cpu.

Easy recommendation for those 2 gens behind if their motherboard supports it.

killer far cry (lol) and borderland performance - wow!

“can it play farcry “

yes,yes indeed.

Bravo AMD

 

[FlanK3r]

I think, OC is possible on board with external clock generator like Crosshair VI or VII Hero. But not much.

 

[nicamarvin]

Not true, let's talk again in a couple of days when other sites posted their reviews using the same setup

It's a fact that you are using an unoptimized Driver. AMD has not released the 3D V-Cache Optimizer Driver abroad(currently only available for Gigabyte MB).

 

[W1zzard]

It's a fact that you are using an unoptimized Driver. AMD has not released the 3D V-Cache Optimizer Driver abroad(currently only available for Gigabyte MB).

Nope, I used the driver that AMD recommend for the reviews

 

[btk2k2]

It's not stated anywhere.. I tested it, 1866 POST, 1900 no POST, which probably means WHEA errors at 1866

I asked over on reddit but might as well ask here. Any idea if that is just a dud mc or is it another X3D limitation?

 

[Xuper]

It's not stated anywhere.. I tested it, 1866 POST, 1900 no POST, which probably means WHEA errors at 1866

for Alder lake with DDR4 , What's maximum clock without getting error in prime95 ( or general )?

 

[Vecix6]

It's a fact that you are using an unoptimized Driver. AMD has not released the 3D V-Cache Optimizer Driver abroad(currently only available for Gigabyte MB).

I'm curious about those new drivers but maybe they are more usefull on non game scenarios. Here we can see 10% increase from 5800X even with lower clocks, so 3DV-Caché is doing his job excellently

 

[W1zzard]

I asked over on reddit but might as well ask here. Any idea if that is just a dud mc or is it another X3D limitation?

No way to know at this time, I'm sure other reviewers will test it in a couple of days. CPU is retail, not an ES, in case you're wondering